Viktor’s Victory Venture (LE + DRR)

Isn’t 1.5+ years of healing subs enough for my foundation?
I looked back at my listening history & the progress I made throughout these years.
That made me realize how long I have been running healing subs.

I still want to run more and build a more solid foundation, but what about wealth? women? leisure?
I have been building my foundation for so long, why don’t I dabble a bit in pleasure outside of my work?

I will reach 1 year with HeO in the middle of this month.
I have reached enough productivity from all the subs that enhances that.
Why don’t I advance? Is it really the discipline or am I limiting myself too much?

My goals now with subs are productivity, creativity, & fulfilment.
Of the three, fulfilment is the only one I still need a sub to fill.
The other two are just me wanting to discover a deeper layer & possibility that I’m not yet aware of.

I’ll still stick with only HeO & DRR1 for now, but I will add Mogul before RM/UA are updated.
Then I’ll replace LE in my 4 month rotation.

Before the update:
HeO, DRR1, Mogul, LE

After the update:
HeO, DRR1, RM/UA, Mogul

HeO, DRR1, RM/UA & Mogul can help with productivity, HeO & RM/UA will handle creativity, and UA/Mogul for the wealth manifestation. I’ll lose LE but honestly I’m not missing much after I switched off of it in January. The goals will be less narrow, 4 instead of 3, but fuck it I deserve it.

I’ll still start small though, Mogul is proven to be exceptionally light & it’s more than enough for what I need. I still want to focus on my foundation after all despite what I wrote above. I’ll use it this year, then switch to EoG1 next year. ~1.5 years total of Mogul at the end.

I know this plan is gonna get fucked over once the new HERO title is out, but that’s a problem for later.

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Might be a bit of venting in this answer :sweat_smile::see_no_evil:

Probably much later since HeO is a rather new title.
They still have so many titles to upgrade and rewrite. IMO it’s a bit naive to plan on a specific title being upgraded if it wasn’t mentioned by Fire or Saint. I’m not referring to you specifically, I know you like to plan a few years ahead. But there are a few people in here that plan to run a specific title “because their favorite titles probably gonna be upgraded next, it’s only logical after all”.
They have at least 40 titles waiting for an upgrade that weren’t mentioned yet. This number doesn’t contain titles like HoM or T$ that were at least mentioned in a way that they are reworking the idea of the title.
We got two titles this year. One upgraded, one brand new (No complaint about the number).
They’re working actively on Seductress, Emperor: The Executive, True Social. Then there’s a Beyond limitless and a True Sell hype thread. Besides that I know they mentioned collecting ideas for HoM, Rich Trader and Seductress Dark, as well as planning more female titles.
Plus some additional new titles that they’ll probably release on the way.

So my guess is that any upgrade on titles like RM, Ascension (as much as I’d like to see this one), IG, Spartan, etc will take time, or luck.

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A new HERO title is guaranteed this year, Saint leaked that the finale of this season is Fire’s secret project and this new HERO title. He said it has been in the works for more than 3 years and he still needs to cut down the script if we don’t want it to be an 8 stager, rofl.

I doubt the season will go on for more than a year, so it will come this year for sure.
My stack will be so fucked. I’ll have to eliminate Mogul/LE by then.

For HeO’s update… I’m skeptical it’s gonna come soon.
So many other titles have to be updated first before it. Survival Instinct, the fighting X subs etc.

Yep, I’m willing to wait 1-2 years for the update to RM/UA.
It falls nicely into my long term plan.

Saint did mention that UA was one of the most requested titles, but the number of people who ended up using it didn’t follow. So I don’t have my hope too high for UA to get an update too soon.
But there are also AA/SB which aren’t as widely spoken here, yet were overhauled into AS early on.
Saint also said their plan about what to do with UA, maybe it’s not gonna be as long as I expect.
So there’s a hope that RM/UA will get updated faster by chance.

I wonder what they’ll do with this one. I expected it to be updated pretty early on but that didn’t seem to be the case. I can’t see myself using it, but it’s pretty exciting to see what the update will be like.

I really notice I’m a bit knocked out still. Started my colloid self therapy and Herxheimer reaction hit me pretty badly. Felt like a serious flue hit me. And like someone smashed a bottle on my head.

I so forgot about this. And I misunderstood, thinking you’re talking about an upgrade for HeO.

And I totally forgot the complete RM discussion, that they’re planning to rewrite RM as a polymath sub.

My brain doesn’t function to well atm. Let’s see what wonders the Gold will bring. Studies show an IQ increase of up to 20 points on Gold.

I’m considering taking one of these free Mensa test to measure my development.

It happens to the best of us, lol.
Have fun with gold!

I thought he meant hero would be an 8 stager lol

Honestly, I wish, lol.

The more I use HeO, the more I realize how vast & deep it is. If the new HERO title is even more loaded, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to spread out the load to 6-8 stages so we can focus more on each stage.

Getting deep into HeO sometimes makes me think it should be 2 subs instead. There are so many things it’s working towards that it can be hard to actively cultivate them deeply all at once.

I use other subs in my stack, but they are there mostly just as passive boosters.
I’m now only focusing on actively taking action on HeO and it’s using everything I have.
I even slim down my stack to only HeO + DRR1 this month to accommodate it more.

It would be nice if we had a 4 stager Origins that goes deeper yet has a tighter focus on each stage, but what we have now is also great as is.

Emperor: DADDY is about nurturing, guiding, and bringing out the very best in the people who come into your life.

You will naturally develop the ability to uplift others, creating an environment where people feel inspired to become the best versions of themselves. This leadership isn’t just grand gestures – it’s woven into the subtle, everyday interactions that build trust, respect, and admiration. Your calm authority will foster a sense of safety and confidence, allowing others to thrive in your presence.

This line is so appealing, I really want to use EmpD.

I’ve been thinking about what I wrote a few days ago about wealth & women.
Basically, i found my foundation to be strong enough from 2 years of using SC.
So I want to widen my goals towards the fun stuff.

I planned to add Mogul to satisfy my wealth goal.
It’s light & straightforward. Perfect to use while i’m still building my foundation.

But what about women?
I think my own ability is enough for that, but i want to add a romance sub too years later. 4 cycles of WB showed me what’s possible. I want some of that sub enhanced experience too one day.

That’s where i got reminded of EmpD.

The more I read the description, the more i get excited to use it. A charismatic & caring figure, with just enough romance sprinkled in the sub.

Gentle charisma sculpted from a lifetime worth of experience. A wide ocean full of tales yet rich in depth.

Not yet. Not yet. It’s time to build the foundation first. I also need to use KB first before EmpD, so it’s gonna take a while. I can get laid on my own without subs, it’s a waste of slot & kitchensinky to use it now. Focus.

But damn does EmpD sound badass.

Did you notice ang recon from genesis mogul? I listened 30s with 7min paragon and it game me overload.

Its not paragon because iv listened to paragon 15 min everyother day without issue,dont know why i got such a strong reaction but its kind of frustrating,i guess i need to find a sub that wont give me such overload or only listen to 1 sub a day/per cycle

I’m not the right one to ask about how to deal with recon from Mogul.

Mogul is the most invisible sub for me.
I run it for 15m, feel nothing, then get more sustainable wealth & opportunities. It’s the most “play and forget” sub i’ve ever used.


My tried & tested method method for dealing with subs that give too much recon is to run it only once every 7-10 days. Just like how saint dealt with recon from cognitive enhancement subs back then by using them only once a week.

So that’s around 3-4 times a month. 2 times a month is effective too if the recon is that bad. 1 is too little.

I think I forgot to take a rest day yesterday.
So I listened 2 days in a row.
Fuck.

I don’t feel any overload though, I just noticed after looking at today’s date.

Well, I’ll cut my cycle short here.
I don’t feel the overload but I sure as hell won’t risk getting the subtle overload symptoms creep up.
I planned to start Mogul on the next listening day, but I’ll save it for the next cycle.


I did a 9 on 4 off last cycle. This cycle is also cut off after 9(8) listening days.
It makes sense that I don’t get any overload. Damn I love this 9on4off/11on4off/13on5off rotation schedule. I can make stupid mistakes like this and I won’t get as much of the repercussion as with the normal schedule. All while still getting immense results + the benefit of giving me the focus by not having to deal with the creeping overload near the end of a 26 day schedule.

I’m not missing anything significant after not using LE for 1.5 months.
I’ll just drop it unless the new update intrigues me beyond my expectation.

I’m gonna stick with HeO + DRR1 + Mogul/UA for the 4 months on, 2 months off rotation base.
So only 2 subs in a stack. That leaves me with a third sub slot.

The third sub slot can be filled with anything.
But I’ll only run it 4 times a month.
The third sub won’t be for long term goals. So I can change them as frequently as I want.

I still don’t like how convoluted a 3 sub stack feels. But if i run the third sub for only 2-4 times, it won’t feel as complicated inside.

Maybe i’ll fill it with AS. I’ve been playing with qigong lately and it would be nice to have the sub there. Or maybe for the updated LE. WB RM:UWX or LBFH sound good too.

Mogul 15m DRR1 7m30s AC 18s

First time using Mogul again after months.
I’m gonna use it 4 times a month. twice every 11 on 4 off at the first and last.

It’s time to get more money, lol.
Goal: twice my total income before next month & slaps bezos’ bald head.

I forgot the confidence & power part from HeO.
Now that I think about it, it was so natural that it was hard to notice after I used the sub for months.
The only thing I can directly notice is the confidence & power being the indirect consequence of the devotion to the virtues. But other than that, I didn’t notice as it was so natural.

That is why I wrote this. Using HeO 12 cycles straight blurred everything too much. Now that I’ve taken 4 months off, I can definitely see the raw boost in confidence & power that’s distinctly HeO.

The boost from DRR is based on inner power. From HeO is based more on competency, devotion, relentlessness etc.

The sense of invincibility from HeO is the best. Whatever I do, I get this unmistakable sense of “I’m in a safe environment, I can do anything and I’ll be fine”. This gets significantly stronger when the thing I do is related to the virtues.

I’m doing too much. I can’t fit sword training, qigong & meditation together in my schedule.

Something gotta give and it sure as hell isn’t my work, workout, or sleep.
Socialization is already kept to the minimum.
Rest is also a part of the job and I can’t get lazy to not do it.

Goodbye showering, won’t miss you.
Musashi is famous for never washing himself and he’s a legend, why can’t I?

No, I won’t go that low yet, rofl.

Sword training is the lowest in my priority. It’s fun but I just can’t keep it up. It will be demoted to “whenever I have the time” instead of being rigidly baked into my schedule like now.

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HeO 15m DRR1 7m30s

1 year total of HeO today :partying_face:
1 out of many years I’ll be abusing the hell out of this sub. It’s just that good.

About the Fire schedule,

I noticed that with some subs, I can use half of my max just fine. But with others, I need to go down to 1/3rd or even 1/4th. I think it’s better to start with 1/4th of your max first, then slowly increase it until you eventually hit 7m30s.

It’s even better if you reduce the use frequency of one of the subs at first. So if in a cycle, you listen to Mogul 4 times, HeO 4 times and the focused sub DRR1 8 times, you may want to give either Mogul’s or HeO’s slot away in favor of the other. So it could be Mogul 2 times, HeO 6 times, DRR1 8 times. Then increase/find a better balance for your needs from there.

I find this the most sustainable so far.

My own schedule

Mogul DRR1
HeO DRR1
HeO DRR1
HeO DRR1
HeO DRR1
HeO Mogul
Washout

On my quest to clean low quality posts and found this banger.

Damn, I wrote this?

I’m starting to get the patience scripting back from HeO after taking a 4 month break from it, but I can’t put it into words as clearly as this.
Some changes stuck around even after the break, but I wonder how patient I was back then, and how much of that I didn’t notice because it was so natural.

It was one of the scriptings that took the longest to take effect/for me to notice, I only knew about it after I asked if there is one since it’s not listed in the description and Saint said there is.

“Patience is not about self-denial, it’s about self-acceptance”
“Patience is self-acceptance”

I should write this somewhere on my wall as a gentle reminder.

HeO 15m DRR1 15m

I just realized that technically I can just run stage 3 & 4 for a month each and be done with “advancing the stages” at least once. I have 6 months (7 26days cycles) of DRR1 total & 3-4 months of DRR2.
I’m not done yet clearing the recon from DRR2, but I can advance to the next stage if I want to.

I’ll consider it. Since I’m in a 3 subs rotation (4 months on, 2 months off for every sub), I have the third slot free that I can use for anything. I’ll consider DRR3 & DRR4 when the off period for DRR1 comes.

Well, that’s the plan anyway, once the new HERO title comes it’s gonna get completely fucked, rofl.

I doubt HERO will come that soon,they said they are waiting until fire vs saint finished before proceeding with the subliminals and thats if they dont get extra ideas for it from fire vs saint,and even if they proceed it may take another 3 - 4 months before they’re finished considering they want to cut it down from 12 stages to 4 and taking into account the general life or legal or website stuff that can happen

I’m thinking of a longer time span.

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I will use stage 3 & 4 either in June & July this year or January & February next year.
Probably not this year, I’ll still be busy. Idk how busy I’ll be next year though, if they really got the new HERO title out before then, the plan is fucked.