Ultima - new user trying to understand what it is really

Questions and Comments
#1

Hello all, I am new subclub user, I currently run my first cycle of Wanted and PSIT subs, with recommended 1 loop each every other day with rest day inbetween. I already see good results from it after 9 days already. No problems except weird mild headache after the second listening day (i do full 15min loops of each sub).

Meanwhile I am reading lots of posts from this forum and Ultimas that users write about got me intrigued but also very confused. So I have few questions for you kind people:

  1. Ultimas are modules used for building custom subs?

  2. Ultima custom sub needs to be build with Ultima modules only?

  3. No matter my regular listening schedule is ( for example my mentioned 2 ZP loops
    every other day) I can also listen to Ultima custom few times a day, even on my
    regular rest day?

  4. When building Ultima custom - number of modules included are min.3 and max.6?

  5. When I look to modules list I see only a few modules that have U in their name
    (for example: BeUnU, DrU …) but other users mention some other modules they
    combine in Ultima stack but there is no mention of Ultima in description of those
    modules and no U in their name.

  6. Ultima custom is used for short term effect only? (for example increasing focus
    before job interview or physical boost before workout)

#2

Ultimas are discontinued.

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#3

Yes. And they are now full blown titles in the main store.

Previously we used to be able to build Ultima customs but now we can only build a Zero Point cuetom.

Zero Point is the current build technology.

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#4

Ultima was a format back in the Q and Qv2 days that focused on in the moment mainly-short term state shifting. Libertine, Paragon, and PSIT were a few of the titles that had a title in Ultima format. Libertine and Paragon started out that way and are now ZP.

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#5

Thanks people for clarifiying that, no short term stuff anymore at all. So current options are listening regular or custom subs, and eventually combine them together in
listening schedules?

#6

Rather… I would phrase it as Ultimate became redundant when people found out ZP was so powerful that it was short term AND long term.

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#7

Here’s my new user recommendation.

Don’t F around with customs.

Play around on the forum, engage, ask questions, learn more, chat with people that have been getting results and doing this for a long time because their mindsets have been positively shifted by the subs, which is why they’re getting positive results, and when they speak/write it’s with that same positive mindset, so you’re getting positively conditioned by positive thinking… just like how listening to negative people complain negatively conditions you whether or you know it or not. Don’t believe me? Watch the news and see how you feel. If you feel someone’s negative, put them on “ignore.”

Pick one or two subs maximum that align with your goals. Don’t play around with 3 subs until you’ve gotten incredible results with 1-2.

Pick one sub that you’re committed to for an extremely long time whether or not you get results with it, because it’s so aligned with your goals, and then pick a second sub that you’re more flexible to change, to see how it supports your goals.

Starter subs…

Wealth: Mogul, Ascended Mogul, Emperor, Stark, Genesis (depends on type of goals)
Productivity: Limitless Executive, Mogul, LBFH, Emperor, Stark
All-In-One: LBFH, Genesis, Emperor
Sex & Romance: Right now, probably just Sex & Seduction X as it’s upgraded
Emotional Healing: LBFH, Chosen
Leadership: Stark, Chosen
Social: True Social, Daredevil, Chosen, Stark, Power Can Corrupt
Fitness: Emperor, LoTS, Spartan
Other: Renaissance Man, Muay Thai, Boxing, Spartan,

Is this an exhaustive list? Definitely not? Is it official? Even less so. But is it a pretty good starting point to make picking your first 2 subs simple? Definitely

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#8

What he said. There are no refunds on customs, but there are refunds on the regular major titles. We always recommend ensuring that you get good results on the major titles before you shell out on a custom.

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#9

Thank you very much kind sir, this is very helpful info for me.