Titles without free will

I think this was answered here before, but has there ever been testing on titles that do not take free will into account? :smiling_imp: lol not to sound like I’ve turned to the dark side but I’m just curious how it turned out if it has been done. From what I recall, I think someone here or an article mentioned it has been tried (maybe not with sub club) but it causes a lot more recon and inferior results. @AnswerGroup

AFAIK the older titles don’t have anything like it is now. The free will scripting was introduced in zero point I think.

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Why can’t anyone answer this lol

Someone did.

No official answer though, and no answer as to how the results of the non-free will scripting was.

It’s all across all the old journals. Pre-ZP. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Like, the original Libertine V1 Ultima had chicks doing some “interesting” things when in listener’s proximity. Which helped shape V2, then V3, and so on.

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Ah, didn’t know that.

I myself ran the pre-ZP Primal Seduction (don’t remember if it was Q or not).

Not even an hour later, a friend I hadn’t talked to in a couple years drunk dialed me on messenger asking if I want her. Started touching herself. Had had a fight with her then-husband and dialed me as a rebound, for lack of a better term.

The next day she denied remembering calling me :joy:

And to this day, we don’t talk much anymore. She acted weird around me after that day.

Doubt that would’ve happened with the free will stuff they have in place now.

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Interesting, I wonder if the free will scripting is decreasing the results then?…

Raw results maybe. But that’s a good thing if so. Less time wasted on long-term disasters. In the pickup/seduction titles anyway.

It automatically weeds out stuff you wouldn’t want to experience. More time to focus on the goodies.

Like when I was in a network marketing company, I sent people to a voicemail recording from classified ads. That recording told them up front what the business opportunity, the cost, that it wasn’t a regular job, etc.

Got tons of people calling who hung up. That’s tons of people I didn’t have to talk to and waste time explaining it to people who would never join anyway.

I got 4 or 5 who were interested enough to leave their info in a message! Out of 50+ who dialed the number!

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Hmm, it almost sounds like no free will scripting in seduction titles might be good for that, as in lots of ladies showing interest… :thinking:

There’s a reason they got AWAY from that :wink:
What’s the use of getting interest from ones who don’t fit your criteria AND don’t want to engage?

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Yeah, still sounds like an interesting experiment though :thinking:… did it cause you worse recon?

No recon. Just wasted time and energy.

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Interesting

It’s in every title and it’s here to stay. SC have been clear about this.

And frankly, if you need to try to force women to be interested in you, then the problem isn’t the subs.

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Free will scripting enhanced results across the board. A few anecdotal reports does not override the amount of information we’ve collected on this topic.

Furthermore, this topic is non-negotiable. In the future, we will be removing all posts suggesting that the free will scripting should removed. It is not going anywhere for any reason whatsoever. We are not interested in metaphysical, religious, etc. debates on the nature of free will and the such.

I am becoming quite dismayed at the number of people implying that they want to violate the free will of another human being, when there are thousands of good reports of people doing exceptionally well with this scripting.

The scripting will always remain.

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I agree.

It’s this type of stuff that makes the entire industry look bad.

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If you run titles like Wanted black, Wanted, Heartsong, Primal Seduction, etc and women still aren’t interested in you … you ARE the PROBLEM!!!

I can run wanted black and look like a bum half the time because i like being comfy in how i dress and still get looks and numbers…

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If we shift the perspective a little one would realize a free will scripting is a protection to all of us. If one can “force” or “manipulate” another person through sub, another sub user by theory can do the same to you. Also, while sub is currently a niche, what happens if two sub users force their will to each other, e.g. one uses a sex sub with the intention to have a night stand with a pretty girl while that girl uses heartsong with the intention to have an authentic long time relationship. Is it gonna be like a tug of war?

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