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#1

I’ve done some 21-day cycles using two subs and resting for 5 days as recommended in the manual. I use 15 minutes on each sub.

Gostaria de tirar umas duvidas com os membros experientes.

1- After listening to subliminals for months with proper rest, can our ability to process information increase?

2- I know there’s a methodology for listening to 3 subs. I’d like to know if it’s possible to be productive instead of listening to 2 subs for 15 minutes, switching to 3 subs for 10 minutes on the same day, and resting the next day?

3- Within a 21 day cycle, using 2 subs, can I eventually change one of the subs within the same cycle?

#2

3 subs in one day is probably too much

Try
Day 1: sub1 (3min) + sub2 (3min)

Day 2: rest
Day 3: rest

Day 4 : sub3 (3/6 min)

Day 5: rest
Day 6: rest

Repeat

And then if you don’t get reconed, you can maybe up some of the loops by 2 minutes. And then after a while if you feel fine next week you it by 2 minutes again. And then on listening days that you don’t feel very good either take extra rest day or just listen to 15 seconds or 3 minutes

I listen to 4 titles in one cycle (kind of a naughty experimental thing :hippopotamus:). But it works for me and I take like 4 / 5 rest days in between and hit full loops on all of them. 3 subs is still within the official guidelines. I think with 3 subs you should be fine if you give yourself rest days in between.

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#3

  1. Months? Depending on the sub, possibly.
    There are subs that increase processing by working on the brain, energetic system or whatever (QL, GLM) which improves processing of subs. Also dissolving inner blocks could help as well. Just know that Physical Shifting takes time.

  2. Don’t run 15 minutes. Only run 3 minutes and spent the remaining 12 on research in here. Much more effective. Search for Microloop Strategy. Basically start low and increase slowly.

  3. More subs and more exposure mean being less productive. You give your brain to may tasks to focus on and slow general development down.

  4. Only change one sub per cycle. Between dropping one sub and adding a new sub should be a break of 12 days or longer. Adding more than one new subs isn’t advised because you can’t tell the effects of the subs apart.

#4

Why do you want to divert from the recommendations in the first place, mate?

#5

Arent 3 subs in the lines of recommendation? I mean as long as he sets proper listening schedule this is for many pretty much the norm. Most people here don’t run two subs but 3. He’s probably just asking about what his schedule should be before he gets diminishing returns

@HomemFascinante im pretty sure that there is a listening guidelines written in any of the pdfs that is always attached to any sub that you buy. They have there a schedule plan for 3 subs as well. Check it out maybe?

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#6

I’m on my fifth cycle. I’ve already done this, starting with 3 minutes, then 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 15 minutes. I’m already used to two 15-minute subs. I know there’s a listening pattern for three subs, but I find it infrequent. The same thing will be played four days later. I was thinking about playing all three on the same day with less listening time and resting the next day.

#7

Yes, I’m between four and five months into listening. I take five days off between cycles. What I’d like to know is, does my processing capacity increase as I practice longer? For example, in a year. Using an analogy with someone who works out at the gym, I like to research here on the forum. I’ve read a bit about micro loops. Thanks for the tip. I’ll study more.

#8

I’d like to listen to 3 subs more often. I’m looking for a strategy to do this in minutes.

#9

Yes, for 3 subs it would be: Day 1: A, B. Tip 2: Rest, Day 3: C, Day 4: Rest. Day 5: A, B. I’m thinking about trying Day 1: A, B, C. Day 2: Rest, Day 3: A, B, C Day 4: Rest. Reducing the listening time for each program. But I still don’t know what time would be balanced, you know?

#10

That’s too much dude. 3 subs in one day is op and even then, giving only one day rest is…. Too little. You’d have to be a superhero and really rare kind of guy to be able to run this without heavy recon in the long run. Maybe palpatine could do that but…. He’s pretty special

Well if you’ll go for it and switch subs one or two cycles in, just make sure to acknowledge that it is too much.

I doubt it would work. It’s possible. But very low chance

Less listening and more rest days often gives you more in terms of results.

#11

That has nothing to do with processing capabilities.
It’s sub dependent.

Let’s say Lex Luthor could probably run ASBR with full loops. He’s rich, magnetic, charismatic, etc. He doesn’t have to much blockages for ASBR to work.
Then he tries Love Bomb. Horror like recon. Because it’s not something he has experience with, but a lot of blockages.

Or someone in here, having a high paying job. He makes 800k every year because he decided to focus solely on work after a painful breakup 20 years ago.
No problems with any kind of wealth subs.
But once he decides to run Heartsong to find a new love, he gets strong recon from just 1 minute.

You can boost processing with subs like QL (which also heals trauma). But as long as trauma and pain remains in your system, you’ll have recon to some degree depending on the sub.

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#12

I understand your explanation. I’m trying to understand what changes between a beginner and an advanced user, and what else they could accomplish at that stage.

I’m not suggesting that a beginner listen to 15 minutes of a sub, nor do I, who have been listening for almost 5 months, listen to it either. I’m even reducing the length of my subs. However, I keep wondering why the subs were made with 15 minutes. Could you answer me?

I use ZP subs. What’s the difference to QL?

#13

Why do gyms come with barbells and weights so you could load them up to 500 lbs?
Because some will be able to profit from them.
Same with subs.
We have users with very different starting points.
Some have mastered their finances to a degree unimaginable for many others. They can easily run wealth subs with full loops and profit from them.
Other might lead a wonderful relationship, so harmonious and sexual pleasing that others can’t imagine that. Yet these can run relationship subs with full loops and profit right from the start.

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#14

I used to be a heavily traumatised individual (beyond what most of you can even imagine) and had lots of blockages, yet I can run pretty much every sub without major recon nowadays—full loops.

Why? Because of my processing capabilities, which improved massively on DR and Alchemist.

Another thing is, it’s not so much about the exposure (although overexposing is really bad for our growth), but about overcoming the most vital obstacle instilled by society—being a cocksucker. Someone who constantly conforms, doesn’t want to offend anyone, is overly agreeable, and lives on others’ validation. Those people usually experience a lot of recon and don’t grow much.

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