The Powerscaling Thread

Questions and Comments
#1

I’d like to open up a discussion regarding powerscaling the different Sub Club technologies… especially now that people have gotten their hands on the QTKS customs.

So, how much “stronger” is QTKS than a regular custom, and how much stronger is a regular custom compared to a Major tile?

If a Major title is X, then is a custom 10X, and is QTKS 100X?

I know this is pretty subjective, and strength/power means different things to different people, but I’m still curious to see what folks think

Feel free to include how these compare with other versions of the tech as well, ZPv1, Terminus, etc.

Also feel free to use Dragon Ball metaphors if using numbers is too difficult.

Thanks

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#2

Exactly 994215528.3% stronger.

On a serious note, these questions are always ridiculously hard to answer. How do you quantify something that is highly user dependent, with a thousand different factors to account for?

You don’t - you go off of user feedback.

What we can say is that we’ve noticed some very interesting patterns emerging from QTKS testers and our internal testing.

For example, the processing is extremely smooth, to the point of some testers not even feeling it processing and having significantly less reconciliation. This is a very important point, as the goal is not feeling the processing but the results. Feeling of tingles in your brain doesn’t matter, results do.

Then of course there is increased impact, more results and what is also quite interesting more rapid results - I’d suggest taking a look at posts from @mvargo and @Invictus to see how quickly and powerfully effects appear on QTKS.

Some testers have also reported more distinct feelings of the different modules firing up. This would be significant for those who like larger customs. I also suspect this would be good for wider customs (customs that target multiple areas of your life at once), as the smoothness and power could compensate for the diffusion of focus - this is however, just my personal theory right now.

In summary, the improvement is extremely significant. Curious to see more reports as we continue going down the QTKS queue.

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#3

For me it was 15x a regular custom. Like as if I unlocked the secret to high flow factor or something.

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#4

More than 20 modules?

If this works, this would be good news. Sometimes we just want one custom to help us with most of our goals.

How many Cores are advisable in these? 2 or 3?

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#5

3 seems to work best on my side for QTKS not sure for others.

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#6

Oh yeah, I definitely get it, but I see it as a fun exercise. I know it’s impossible to truly quantify, but sometimes just forcing yourself to simplify all your opinions/feelings/judgments on a matter down to a single number, giving it a grade, or multiplier, gives folks on the outside another avenue to try to understand the differences between the offerings. It helps sometimes.

Like a Metacritic score on a video game. It’s all subjective of course, and everyone has their own criteria, and maybe it’s pointless to even try to put a number on a work of art, but we do it anyway, and I’ve found those scores to be pretty helpful at times.

When someone tells me he went on a date with an 8 last week, and then went on a date with a 10, somehow that still registers something powerful in my brain, even when beauty is subjective, and based on a million different factors and preferences. We tend to powerscale everything, even when it doesn’t make sense to do so. There’s something very human about it.

I think it’s why anime fans endlessly obsess and debate over the comparative power levels of different characters throughout different story arcs and chart them out. It’s human nature.

So, simply take this as a question from a fan of the Sub Club universe. For the folks who’ve experienced the three main categories–Major, Custom, QTKS–how do they compare to each other?

If you guys just had to put a number/multiplier on it, even knowing the number doesn’t really mean anything, what would it be?

If this is too hard, Dragon Ball metaphors are acceptable, lol

#7

And how much stronger would you say a regular custom is compared to a Major title?

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#8

Like 5x then 20x for QTKS customs.

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#9

So QTKS is roughly 100x stronger than a Major title? Or are you saying QTKS is 20x stronger than a Major?

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#10

20x stronger

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#14

You took two encyclopedia-length posts to say that. :joy:

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#15

can you define stronger? What does stronger quantify into per say? Faster results? More dramatic results?

Say for ex. Using LotS as an example

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#16

10x more manifestations then on normal custom is how I define it usually in the results part.

LoTs more results in weak spots like shoulders (grow bigger much faster and are much more lean and aesthetic faster than on normal customs).

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#17

Just so I’m clear. What does QTKS stand for?

Where can we get access to it?

I only see zp terminus and zp T squared

@Plutus

How does it compare to the zpt and zptsquared?

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#18

No clue what it stands for.

You need to have a custom you’d want to build and PM @SaintSovereign for it.

For Zptsquared, never really had good results with it so my opinion of it wouldn’t really be helpful to be honest. A better person I think would be @Malkuth or @Invictus

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#19

What if you have a custom already and want to upgrade to it?

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#20

Quintessence: The King Speaks

That’s my guess

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#21

That’s preferable. I would not go from main title to QTKS directly unless you know what you’re doing.

I used my custom for 2 months before I upgraded to QTKS since it still is 600$ usd with my forum discount.

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#22

I highly disagree with the notion that customs are stronger than major titles, that has not been the case for me at all and in fact, I might even lean towards saying that the major titles (the new ones at least) are borderline stronger AND better than customs.

The whole advantage with customs is that you can ‘customize’ the script to your liking, but that can lead to minimal results if you don’t know what you’re doing.

This is the way everyone should look at it, in my opinion:
You run a subliminal because you have a goal in mind.
If you want to address a specific goal, you do so by running a specific title.
If the specific goal isn’t available in the store, you use a custom to best replicate a script that would execute said-goal.
However, if your goal IS available in the store, you are lucky because you get to run a script compiled and tested rigorously by Saint and Fire’s team. The experts have more of a role at play with your script than they would if you run a custom, which is compiled by yourself and untested (the modules are, but not the total product in its full custom form).

So from that thread of logic, I think it’s obvious to anyone that a major title is clearly stronger and better than a custom. The advantage of the custom is being able to personalize your experience and depending on how much you’ve learned about these subs, it can go good or it can go great.

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