The fear of success

What are your thoughts on the fear of succeeding?

Personally after years and years of expecting failure, being conditioned to just accept scraps and the belief of “what goes up must come down”, this current run is starting to break through the “mid” barrier and into something never expected - small but compounding results. I’m not the person even a year ago, even looks wise. Frankly I don’t know how to handle it.

Any general advice is welcome.

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Fear of success is definitely something I faced during stage 1 of Dragon Reborn Red.

I suppose the root of it is very personal. For me it was (in short) that if I reached a destination I would have nowhere else to go.

Find the root of what makes you afraid. Since you are experiencing a bloom of results on your current run im sure something big has been resolved.

BTW. on your experience of having muted results. I played multiple months of Emperor and barely got any results. As soon as I DRR previous results bloomed and since I have been getting very fast blooms from all subliminals I play. When the deep blocks get resolved big blooms arrive.

I am not saying drop your stack and go do DRR. Especially since you are getting blooms now. However a subconscious spring cleaning is definetly high ROI in my opinion.

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The fear of posting “Questions & Comments” topic entry at “News & Updates” section :sweat_smile:

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I had the same issue. The solution was taking action even if U don’t have a plan in Ur head. Maintaining the self belief that U don’t need a perfect plan to succeed, U just need to keep moving towards the goal. As the copy of glm says: “small, deliberate cuts into the mountain until the summit is yours.”

:v:

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Yeah, happens to me anytime my mind isn’t used to the changes

“Where is that anxiety gone? I should be having anxious thoughts right about now…”

What helps is just accepting that these changes will keep coming. And sort of leaning into it and accepting that I want more of this

I also know there’s a tipping point where this new identity eventually becomes you and you start to take on these new traits unconsciously

I like to remind myself of the four stages of the competence model where when I still get occasional thoughts of my old identity means I’m still making my way to “unconscious competence” with this new identity


Edit: Also try stay at the same loop length for a little. I've noticed that makes quite a difference in terms of overall results
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It seems like that fear to me is never about the success itself. But having that success stripped from you once you become comfortable with it.

So it’s like " I don’t want to succeed because it’ll be that much more painful to lose it all" .

If your life has been predominantly about avoiding more pain, it makes sense that’s the direction it would choose. It’s doing what it got really good at doing. But in my case I have to learn to find joy in success vs seeing the 1000 different ways I can lose it

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I agree with what Philemon said.

I’m on DRR3 and every stage has made me face all my fears everyday. Now when I have a thought of a fear I ignore and take action. I would say DRR and Phoenix are the best for going deep and getting over our fears. Most peoples fear is at an identity and belief level. It’s created through your childhood through parents and society. What our parents applauded us for taking action on and not allowing us to take action on greatly effects how we take action as adults.

The reason there are some guys in Subclub who get profound results is because they know how to take action. They don’t need the healing subs. They learned at one point in life to take action and ignore the thought of fear when it rises. When you don’t take action on anything in your day it compounds. It could be as little as a fear of not bumping into someone in your hallway and 3 other things you didn’t take action on that same day. That pattern is what you’re teaching your subconscious to become your reality.

Another aspect of success is what we say and visualize throughout everyday. These are only a few things out of the hundreds of things I have learned through a manifestation mentor to do everyday:

  1. Repeat, “Today is another great day as usual” whenever I am half asleep before I wake up
    -What we say before we wake up and before we sleep effects how we experience our day
  2. Do my Day in my ideal life visualizing techniques throughout the day
    -What we imagine throughout our day is what our subconscious accepts as reality. This makes it easier to accept the changes
  3. Write down or say out loud what I am grateful for everyday
  4. Speak only positivity about myself and others
  5. Reframe every negative thought to positive and say it and visualize it 3 times
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Very well said.

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For me, the “fear of success” was/is mostly because I associate the way of getting there as “long and painful”. While the rewards are just okay’ish.

It is especially challenging for me, knowing that better and easier types of existence (like the astral planes) exist, while I would need to put in the extra hard work here on the physical plane to achieve more success.

It is the fear of the pain that I would have to endure if I decide to go the whole way through to maximum success.
It often feels like becoming successful “is not worth it” because the pain of getting there is bigger than the perceived gain.
This might be a dopamine issue (EE can help me with this) or a general distorted outlook on life (AoH can help me with this). Or my perception about the ROI of the whole thing, i.e. the work that needs to be done and what I will get out of it.

This is the reason why I am “lazy ambitious”, mostly doing the bare minimum to live comfortable with the least amount of work required.

I wonder, what title could help me with this?
I mean with embracing the grind to success in this physical world, while being aware that better and easier worlds exist and can be accessed with enough practice (astral projection) at any time.
How to be motivated taking the “harder road with less gains” when you are aware that “easy roads with many gains” exist?

It is one of the main reasons for me for not taking enough action in the first place.
Because the perceived pain of taking action is bigger than the perceived gain.
EE is slowly helping with this for taking action despite of this internal dissonance.

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I am of a similar opinion, that fear of success is born of two conditions:

  • having any kind of expectation (both of result and the work to get there)
  • misjudging both the cost and benefits of doing, and the cost and benefits of not doing.

If we didn’t have any expectation, we would just do it regardless without thinking about the result or cost.
if we judged correctly, then we would see that the cost of doing nothing is greater than the cost of doing, and the benefit of doing nothing is lesser than the benefits of doing.

and I think this is true even taking the immaterial into account,
from what I see, to get material things and abilities, we need material events and actions.
and to get immaterial things and abilities, we need immaterial events and actions.
and I see immaterial things like a result booster for material actions.
Therefore, working on both the material and immaterial is optimal for any result.

So what I mean by that, is that though we need to work out (material action) to get strong (material ability), we get more strength with less work if we train our mind for resilience, for optimal use of our muscles, for pushing what needs to be pushed to optimize for strength gain and strength deployment.

so someone with less physical training but a good mental conditioning (both conscious/unconscious) can get on par with someone with more physical training but lesser mental conditioning.
There have been instances of athlete hypnotised into not being able to lift a pen, and otherwise regular people hypnotised in order to lift heavy weights. But for the same mental conditioning, like with two athletes following a similar mental regiment, then the physical training would make the difference.

another exemple, is that though we need to act to get a business going, it’s our mental training and abilities that will be able to notice opportunities or give the skills needed to perform well.
The immaterial (mental and astral) boost the manifestations, but with no path to manifestation, no actions, it become much much harder.
it’d be hard to meet the president if sitting naked in the back of a cave. (though chance event could happen, but yeah, less possibilities)

Though of course the immaterial can influence the material, such as with energetic events (including the aura/biofield and communication through it, leading to syncronicities), but the material has much more inertia than the immaterial, since it got a much much greater mass than things like electrons, and so it takes either more time or more energy to bring change. (This, I suppose, might be the reason why physical shifting subs use more energy than subs with auras, and subs with auras more energy than subs without, though only fire or saint would know for sure)

So yeah, it all depend on what we desire to attain, on what is our definition of success, if it’s something material like monetary wealth, a strong body, or to have material influence, actions are needed to provide enough mass and give enough power and inertia going to quickly change things.
If it’s something immaterial like working on aura, working on energy, aura, skills, mindset, knowledge, behavior, seeing, hearing, feeling, then you don’t need much actions.
You can easily become popular in a town, city or neighborhood with good mental condition and without much actions, but it still require going out.
You can easily find friends or even love, but it still require talking (physical action)

But in all case, to get material results, we’ll need at least some material actions. especially if we want them to last (have inertia)

the immaterial got many gains, but they can only be fully materialized through material and physical actions, exertions. (and indeed, I see the material without immaterial as the hard road with little gain, with no skills or mindset acting can be a struggle, hence why there’s a need for both)

edit: (and if I may hazard a metaphysical guess, I’d say if we incarnated here in a body on this Earth it may be for a reason, or we would have stayed immaterial from the beginning)