That was an excellent read, @NinjaGazin. It did summarize to me the whole of manifestation. Thank you.
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I really enjoyed this thread. It’s like everyone here has faced the "Conflict" and discovered it to be a "Levels of Consciousness" issue.
Only thing I’d like to add…
“Overcoming Obstacles makes for Good Stories.”
Our minds (read: Ego) doesn’t like Effortlessness, because it’s NOT Impressive.
Enormous wealth, an amazing social life, a great physique …
If everything came easy to you…
If there’s no story to tell…
If everyone thinks “you’re just lucky”…
(If you were like @Invictus) 
Would you really be ok with that?
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Now that’s a very good point, Simon. Also, on the flip side, would we appreciate things that came easily to us or things that we gained the hard way?
I know that sounds a bit silly but in my experience we do tend to take for granted things that are given to us free of charge while appreciating that which is worked for.
Although there could be exceptions to this rule, it seems to be generally true.
Good food for thought.
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@Invictus is enjoying life now. But he went through plenty of trials before that.
But as usual, you make great points.
I think we can learn to appreciate ease.
More accurately, mature ease deliberately includes discomfort.
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Discomfort is a state we love to be in as humans. Every movie starts bad and we want it to end good. Without the ups and downs, what is the story of your life? Not just to tell other people, but to be proud of yourself.
But it’s like @Malkuth said, trying to find ease in difficult situations is the definition of growth. I believe that growing in the right way, equals the amount of satisfaction in life. It’s only how you look at the discomfort/adversity that makes you feel like you’re growing and expanding, or that you feel like you’re suffering.
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It’s the hero story.
There is no hero story without a villain.
You cannot have a hero story without having a down-low moment. Any (good) hero movie has it.
It’s the oldest story and the one that resonates the most with us.
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Unless you live on a mountain in Tibet where you can have this for almost free 
But yes, if you live in “regular” society, you will need to find a balance between just vibin high and taking care of the 3D world.
Easy life → no challenges-> no thrill → no hard work → no joy of success = gateway to existential crisis + nihilism.
@Solomon it doesn’t have to be as black and white as your post shows, but understand that comfort can become a sickness, and it doesn’t take that much to search about the negative consequences of excess comfort that comes from an “easy mode life”, with the main one being lack of growth due to no risks or challenges being faced.
Instead, understand that a harmonious mix of the two is what’s going to give you both the growth and the success simultaneously.
As far as the viewpoint you have on the second part of your main post (the surrenderer side), understand that there’s a difference between trust and reliance.
When someone says: use the subs and they shall manifest the reality you truly desire, it does NOT mean that you should fully rely on it and not do anything yourself, that’s like taking steroids and not working out, thinking that you will transform into the next Mr Olympia by just relying on the drugs, which doesn’t really work that way.
Sure, you might get some muscle built, just as how no action and reliance on subs can still give you some results, but ultimately, the combination of both Trust (again, not Reliance) and Action, that will help you achieve the most optimal levels of growth and success.
Here’s something for you to think about:
Let’s say you wanted to manifest an Executive position at your workplace, and it’s only been 6 months since you started working there, yet you’re dreaming big and relying on subs and law of attraction, but not really taking any actions to get to that position, and then somehow, you manifested it, and got assigned straight away.
Now tell me, how are you gonna maintain that level of success if you never went through the necessary growth for the experience required for such a position 
?
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There are a lot of individuals out there at positions in jobs they aren’t qualified for. Pure arrogance mixed with delusions and they create a smoke and mirror effect people buy into.
True, landing that executive job won’t feel as fulfilling if there’s no foundation built upon it. But now this brings up a different topic for growth. If growth is all about preparing yourself for something, how can you identify what’s needed for more growth vs limiting beliefs masquerading as fear preventing the manifestation?
And then this is just a random thought I’m throwing out for this whole topic. I’m reading a lot of conflicting ideas in this thread. The power of belief vs the power of belief set within predefined paradigms. I’ve banged on about this in some other thread with life being more effortless or easy with less challenge causing apathy or being unfulfilled.
But are we 100% sure of that? We don’t have a bulletproof method of manifesting or subconscious influence to instantly attain things. So how could any of us say what it will or won’t bring on? Couldn’t this be a rationalization for the fact we don’t have that level of control in our own lives?
I mean if you have experienced apathy from getting everything easily point made. But I wouldn’t mind my life being a little easier, I’m not opposed to someone dropping 1 million dollars in my lap for no reason. You guys saying some of you wouldn’t accept that?
Not at all.
I don’t buy into the ‘suffering is necessary’ paradigm.
But what I do buy into is that to feel a sense of accomplishment, one must overcome challenge.
Whether you choose to frame that as suffering or not is a function of your choices, experiences, personality, and so on.
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That makes sense. I guess I haven’t really separated challenge and suffering in my own life.
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As an HSP, there’s usually not much need to seek out additional challenges. The task there is more about toning them down. So, I’m not surprised that this particular line of narrative may not really be super compelling to you.
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Yeah that certainly explains my aversion to it. Thanks for the perspective.
Yeah with that I fully agree. That’s the main reason why I have not quite this job. Deep in my heart I know this is neccesary, to become better at the things I’m not good at. So in the future I can use these tools to be a optimal performer and thrive in my purpose 
But doing it without suffering will be a bonus haha
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