Subs, processing and drugs

Questions and Comments
#1

So I don’t know if this has been talked about before or not, but like, how do drugs affect results?
If you have any experiences with anything you’ve done while running subs, how did it affect you?

I know from experience that with certain drugs, I embody the subliminal more, like definitely more mysterious on WANTED if I’m high (my current choice of getting high is nutmeg, DO NOT DO IT WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT YOU’RE GETTING YOURSELF INTO), or as I recall, someone embodies more of the emperor vibe when drunk during their emperor run.

So I would like to know what you guys think? Any experiences?

Bonus discussion question: psychedelics and subs, yay or nay?

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#2

I’ve mixed subs with nootropics, but not “drugs” drugs… (then again, when I think nutmeg, I think of my grandma’s apple pie recipe from when I was a kid, so what do I know lol) I haven’t tried weed often enough to get a real baseline on how that affects me, but it’s legal here and dispensaries are more common than Starbucks now it seems, so easy enough to get if I wanted. Not really something I’m into anymore though.

It might be interesting to mix a social sub with vodka, as I’m WAY more social when I’m buzzed… but I don’t go out drinking much (ever?) anymore, and never with the intent of chatting people up haha. The real trick would be seeing if a social sub (true social, daredevil, etc) would replicate the effects of vodka without me being drunk… purely out of curiosity though.

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#3

Nutmeg actually contains myristicin, which can be converted into MMDMA, which is extremely similar to MDMA, so there’s that :sweat_smile::joy: and the high can stay up to 48 hours

Also about the nootropics, I actually did a run of wanted previously while “on” and “off” a pre workout/nootropic mix, 1 week per the “on” and “off” tests, the results were basically less feeling full in head and I seemed to have gotten many more compliments in general, so it could have boosted it. The main ingredient was a patented Lion’s mane based ingredient.

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#4

Well damn. I remember years ago describing to a friend exactly what I wanted in a nootropic stack. I was mixing high dose l-tyrosine with a few other things, but the effects didn’t last and I built a tolerance. He said what I actually wanted was MDMA, and good luck with that. lol.

Lion’s Mane is good… I’ve got a variety of things in my supplement box, for smart drugs mostly Natural Stacks and Axon Labs. Most of the non-nootropic stuff is from Life Extension and one-offs from other misc brands. I’m doing a multi-month phased washout to see what is actually contributing to my health and what is just wasting dollars. I’m on about 1/3 of my usual stack at the moment, adding things back in as I notice I’m missing the effects from them, then gauging my response.

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#5

I made a smoothie once with nutmeg. But it was my first (and only) time. I miscalculated the amount of nutmeg.

Was loopy for hours. Wife and I had to go to Walmart for something. I got so dizzy I laid down on the bench they had in one of the aisles. “Just gonna take a nap.”

One of the ladies working there rushed over “Are you ok?”

I apparently giggled and said “too much nutmeg in my smoothie”

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#6

Well maybe nutmeg is what you’re looking for :joy: research it and maybe look at the nutmeg subreddit r/nutmeg, it might interest you, just read the stickies and harm reduction first if interested and don’t think about ever smoking it :).

I mean there will be some things that you won’t be able to tell unless you observe everything for a long time. Also make sure you know what you’re taking isn’t countering something else you’re also taking at the same time, like a friend of mine once approached me and told me that I lied to him that creatine would help him look a bit bigger, but then it turned out that he was also taking a supplement called animal cuts, which had a diuretic effect and basically netted him 0 results due to both supplements cancelling each other. So make sure you do your research about what you’re mixing as well.

#7

The first time always throws you off guard :joy:, how did you feel though, did you feel more open about owning yourself and get your inner child back out in the world? Cause that’s what happens with me and I’ve been on the nuts for 3 years now :joy:

I’m on 20g right now, it was my brother’s birthday and we dropped some nuts together around 10pm, but now it’s 5:33am and I’m here contemplating about the fact that i have watched an entire movie but barely remember the events of the movie because I was zoned out thinking about the fact that we are like a special group of elites, and I feel like I belong to a family full of ascended beings (all of you on here that have always been here through the tough times, as well as everything I learned from everyone here).

#8

I was on the verge on unconsciousness. No spiritual awakening for me

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#9

I mean there’s something for everyone, you might do better with acid, but then again, if you have something sad or bad deep down in your brain, then it will pull it out like khan st1, just 100 times worse and with bonus hallucinations :joy:
I just feel like after trying over 30 different drugs during my “experimentation” phase, it feels kinda fucked up in a sad funny way that my drug of choice is a home spice :joy:

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#10

I’ve smoked weed whilst listening to subs many times, whether it enhances results or not… eh, not so sure. Listening to khan whilst smoking just makes me want to stop smoking. I’ve actually stopped smoking as much ever since listening to Khan, I used to smoke every day. Now I just feel better without needing to pop anything or smoke anything, I feel good in my own skin.

Now listening to subs whilst on acid now that, would be an interesting experience. (Considering the subs don’t give you a bad trip)

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#11

That’s probably due to the fact that an alpha needs to look after himself and his health.

Also about acid, it could be interesting as I suspect it could give you insight on how the state of your subconscious is

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#12

I imagine alchemist on acid must be one hell of an experience. Also DR on DMT… that one could either be one of the most awakening experiences ever or just pure hell.

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#13

Ah. You just needed a small push to fall into perpetual enlightenment.

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#14

Subs on mdma is intense. It amplifies the power by like A LOT, At least for the moment.
Sexual subs make you well horny as fuck.

Also tried random spiritual binaural on mdma. Had some insane experiences.

Nutmeg that’s the first time I heard of it. Now I’m curious how much nutmeg do you take? :smiley:

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#15

But even the pure hell trip will be super healing. Learned so much from my horror trips.

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#16

I really want to try DMT one day, especially with something like Sage, would truly be an out of this world kinda experience

#17

Have you tried nutmeg before?

#18

This is also my experience with nutmeg, if you ever tried Sage (ultima) while on nutmeg or MDMA, you’ll feel like you can control the fabric of your reality :joy:

#19

It’s actually nice when done properly, I take around 15 to 20g usually, but sometimes I bump it up to 25g with black peppers as well, to really go beyond a normal trip.

#20

You just buy the spice at your local store. Or how do you eat it? For reserach purposes :smiley:

I also want to try the new Legal Dmt Actualized talk about. 5 meo malt there’s some insane stories about it. Like meo malt and immortal sage haha.

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