This seems to be the main factor that we should be working towards, immediate after reading this, I started doing a form of meditation where I let my mind wander to whatever it wants and results seem way promising than before.
I love the two books I read from him. So much food for thought. He really thinks outside the box. I have no idea why he should be considered a villain?
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Some people do have that perspective and I have seen it communicated, mainly due to that 3 letter organisation or forum he is associated with. Ironically this is in itself an example of thinking inside boxes and not seeing shades of color. There is also the very unfortunate hackable animals quote, and his passion for nano-technology and trans-humanism, which are controversial topics especially due to things that happened in the last 4 or 5 years.
I shared the video because those two topics of trans-humanism and vipassana are almost opposite poles, contained within the same paradoxical human being. The one tries to go beyond the body and unite it with machines, the other tries to reintegrate all the fragmented parts of the body that the mind has become disconnected from.
Dualistic thought would consider in most cases that you have to to subscribe to one of these views only, but not both. Yet here is an example of the universe entertaining both notions simultaneously in the mind of a human. When I said it would break some peoples expectations of reality, I meant reductionist or dualist/binary perceptions.
Personally, I think the reason he can entertain both is that he’s only speaking on a very surface level about the practice in this video, and it’s possible especially given what he said that he plateaued in the practice at a point where it helped give him additional energy and focus, but never went beyond that, so the core existential conflicts don’t arise. But this in itself is also an example of nuance, as it is possible to take a practice or belief system and only take it so far, but give yourself that label, and then peoples perception of that label will assume a specific level of competency which differs from person to person. A lot of this has to do with how our brains store information.
I actually saw a very cool video recently on the Mandela Effect that was giving a suggestion for some types of manifestations of this phenomenon which works on exactly this type of principle, how the brain remembers or stores information can be shaped by our past experience and cause differences in memory recall as a result.
I find these types of blind spots that people develop fascinating, partly I suppose because my core love/value is truth, and so I spend a lot of time studying how it can be distorted, and how the pure consciousness can be distorted by what we believe.
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So in theory, wouldn’t subs like Elixr(a few cycles of) make all the others work better?
that’s what happened for me, yes, especially with getting less recon.
That’s also why stage 1 of all the multistagers is healing
I don’t think people should be obsessed with “healing journeys” but I have always ran a cycle of a healing title here and there, at least a couple times a year, to shake things up and reset my subconscious, and it always is a long term boon
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Would Saint Germain’s violet flame help burn karma?
I know of a YouTube video that is a kind of guided prayer to do for 21 days. It promises to burn karma and transmute energy. It involves a process that involves all the chakras.
Ummm…
When @SaintSovereign said:
I don’t think he quite meant a fruitcake channelled new age practice involving praying to a fictitious immortal ascended master and visualizing specially colored flames magically “burning” away your karma.
But hey, if that’s your “thang”, knock yourself out 
I personally wouldn’t be expecting any improvement in subliminal results from it though.
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Probably not, but it gives you peace of mind.
I’ll test it. If I don’t find any more signs of recognition in the future, you’ll know…
Regards 
Wouldn’t that make things so much easier, “burning” your karma by watching a YouTube video.
Sure would be the life.
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If only buddha had youtube videos would have cut his journey in half
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Brother you produce trickling water audio files that change people’s lives. How do you think this fact sounds to someone that doesn’t understand subliminal technology?
Karma is nothing other than patterns of behavior, so obviously any form of key positive input through subliminal audio or inspirational talk or anything else can impact and change behavior in a positive manner, ie. “burn karma”.
Saying a ‘YouTube video’ can’t change your life is ignorant, whatever the content is, as you and StSovereign keep reminding people here, the power is within the individual, not whatever tool is used, so whether it’s what you consider a fantasy story or solid scientific facts, if it helps the individual get in touch with their own power and let go of negativity in their life then so be it, no need to discredit or look down on something different than your belief system allows you to perceive or understand, this type of behavior will only slow down your expansion.
There’s a lot of things many human beings in this present state of evolution cannot perceive in the reality around them, but many can, let’s not be monkeys laughing at anything we can’t comprehend, a lot of people actually can perceive and are aware of these things just like this Violet flame and St Germain example, it’s not because you think it’s fantasy and doesn’t exist that it makes it an absolute fact, heck you even have a Remote Viewing and Astral Projection subliminal, I understand we all draw the line somewhere when it comes to what we can’t perceive and what we’re ready to believe but we’re smart enough to know that this line only grows one way and it’s expanding.
I had to give my opinion on this because it’s too sad to see this type of attitude coming from the founder of a company that is here to help people better their lives, and again it’s not targeting you directly Fire or I’m not trying to start any kind of esoteric argument, to each their own belief or disbelief.
I’m voicing my concerns over a widespread attitude towards judging things we don’t agree with or understand, so I hope my perspective can help everyone keep an open mind in general.
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Since Buddha spent the first part of his life in a palace, he would have likely enjoyed unlimited internet speed, and probably ended up stuck grinding League of Legends or addicted to porn instead… 
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@Soulfire thank you for your post - you’ve given me an excellent opportunity to explain why I hold such a view towards most of the modern modalities. And yes, I’m well aware how it comes across to most people - good. It makes one think why would a founder of a successful company bettering people’s lives hold such a view, as you are doing. Which is good.
At the very core of this is a simple fact…
We don’t have much time, people.
You, nor I.
If you’re lucky, you start becoming interested in self help and perhaps spirituality at a young age, and if you are extraordinarily lucky, you find a company such as SC or a legitimate, traditional method of spiritual development.
But even so, the 20s are gone in a blink.
And that’s if you’re lucky.
Most people aren’t. Most people are stumbling around with an issue that needs addressing immediately, at a deep level.
And if they don’t get it fixed, there are consequences to it.
Their lives can be irrevocably changed. Their families lives can be irrevocably changed.
They have blinked, and here are the 30s.
Another blink, you’re in your 40s.
Blink, 50s.
And you’re still holding onto the same issues you’ve developed from an early age, struggling how to fix them.
That’s how life goes for the vast majority of people.
It’s incredibly sad and I can’t stand seeing people in such torment stumbling around trying to find something, anything, that works.
And it’s something I’ve personally noticed to be an issue very early on.
And here comes the second part of my viewpoint - how I noticed this issue. And that’s because, had you had asked me this same question 10 to 15 years ago, I would have potentially agreed with you completely.
Of course, Violet flame and St Germain sound great! Energy fields, hell yeah. Let’s just pile it all together and see what works. So many cool stuff out here when you first start out your journey.
But then happened this party pooper called experience.
The reason why I dislike so many of these modalities, is because I’ve been through all of them, and none of them really work that well.
It’s not a lack of understanding my friend - it’s too much understanding. And yes, I know how arrogant that sounds, but let me explain further.
None of them work that well, and yet…
The clock is ticking.
Look, you’re already halfway through that blink, the 30’s are fast approaching. Next blink you’ll be 40.
You.
Do.
Not.
Have.
Time.
To.
Waste.
Let me repeat that - you do not have time to waste.
Especially on stuff that barely works.
Because there are things out there that actually work when you put the effort in. They work, and they work extremely well.
I’ve seen it and experienced it with my own eyes. I’ve seen things that are straight up supernatural, and a normal person who has never seen anything like it would call impossible.
And here comes the humbling part.
After actually experiencing the things that work extremely well, only now do you (and I) start realizing how massively long the journey ahead is.
How much work one must put in to actually move along. Absolutely massive mountains of work.
And yet…
You still have to blink.
The time is still going.
YOU.
DO.
NOT.
HAVE.
TIME.
It’s often funny when people used to call our subliminals “shortcuts” to life (used to happen in my personal life with people I’m no longer in contact with), as if it is a bad thing. They are no shortcuts, simply a more effective tool that one needs in order to not just improve ones life - but to actually live it.
That’s what most people are here for.
They want something that works to change and transform their life - and then they want to live it. What’s the point of endless work unless you get to live?
Unless of course, that is your path towards an extremely grand goal, such as spiritual paths or humanitarian ones.
So, you are absolutely correct that there are many things we humans cannot perceive. Vast majority of people are completely unaware of just how much spiritual gunk there is within our bodies. There’s so much of it, that people start thinking it’s karma.
And yet, karma is something that is worked on at higher level of spiritual development within legitimate traditions.
Most of the stuff people think is karma is just deeper levels of gunk clogging their energetic systems.
Most of the people who proclaim they are completely spiritually pure and cleansed from all impurities are either still in the stumbling around phase or have only just begun the foundational work of cleaning out that gunk.
It’s extremely rare to find an individual who has finished such foundational work, which can take a decade or longer of legitimate and authentic methods that work extremely well.
Even after years of ridiculous discipline and access to such methods (as well as extremely powerful subliminal technology), I myself am not on such a level.
And fun fact, all the fun things such as astral projection, crazy energetic phenomena, affecting others with energy, causing change in reality - been there, done that. Most of it doesn’t compare or even has anything to do with actually progressing and developing spiritually. In fact, a large part of it can harm you and your progress.
I’ve done the astral projections. Floated around, saw all the cool things, had the cool experiences. Doesn’t change the fact that not only it drains your energy that you need for actually strengthening your energetic systems, but changes the very nature of your energy in a negative way when you do too much of it. Importantly, it’s fine for most people who don’t have spiritual goals and only do it occasionally. It’s fine to seek knowledge (although let’s be real, most people just want to project to go bang their ideal crush or see some cool stuff) through it every now and then.
Little off tangent, but it can also be useful for those who are still mid-transition in their understanding of reality from materialistic to a more spiritual viewpoint, or to alleviate fears - but again, not something to be done every day. Also, the Astral Projection title we have will naturally balance out some of the negative effects intrinsic to the practice.
Had all the cool energetic experiences. Did Yoga for half a decade with the same ridiculous discipline when I was younger, sadly not completely legitimate/authentic methods. Had all the cool stuff that people like to rave about, such as energy shooting up into their head, feeling bliss and seeing the white light. Had the “non-cool” experiences too - one time I had the completely 100% knowing that the next moment I was going to just drop down and die. So I simply surrendered and accepted that is a possibility on the spiritual path, and won’t be something that stops my progress. Fun fact, most of this stuff, while it did clean up a bit of the gunk, also used up a lot of energy in a wasteful manner.
Thankfully I’ve always had a powerful intuition, and before I had the false Kundalini I had a massive intuitive realization hit - something was not right about this path and immediately dropped it. Keep in mind, this wasn’t the “double-false” one. The one that people feel a bit of energy blasting into their head, have some bliss and think it’s the real deal. That’s just energy going up your head, nothing special. I had the physical feelings of “Kundalini”. The “real” deal.
And now with much deeper knowledge, I know that one was also false, and is sadly what a lot of genuinely passionate spiritual individuals make a mistake with on their path - which let’s be clear, has actual spiritual consequences on your body and energy. These things aren’t a game people. I’m not allowed to say what the difference is between the real thing (which maybe a handful of people on Earth have achieved, me not included) versus the false one (the one that most people go through, with all the shakes, purification suffering, madness, etc.), but the difference is extremely important and changes things completely.
Sadly a vast amount of people have completely ruined their lives by chasing the false thing. Completely destroyed their sense of reality, ruined their energy, went near mad and became unable to live a normal life.
And meanwhile, the real thing, is still just another step on the massively long journey ahead.
I also had all the cool reality shifts and ability to affect others. It’s basic energy stuff. For one who develops with genuine methods or even simply by using our subs, this really isn’t that crazy. Again, it’s cool to experience initially, but that also falls away if you’re going after a specific goal. And since we’re talking about energy manipulation, well… I’m not allowed to go too in-depth, but most of such individuals are working with nothing - they are simply imagining it, and the cool effects they feel is simply stuck energy in the head.
Sounds diminutive, right? And yet, so many of such energy workers are completely unbalanced in their lives, flip-flopping between things and unable to be stable in their work, life and relationships, with constant symptoms of energetic sickness.
So, coming back to the main line of my argument.
There are real, tangible consequences to messing with such things - be it in time, consequences in your life and those around you or to your being, including physical, mental or spiritual. It cannot be ignored, but it also can’t be done wrongly. And while all of this is happening, time is still ticking and life is slipping away.
The solution?
Discard the useless. Use that which works to it’s maximum potential. If you find something better, use that.
Do not stop at the very first things that pop up, the most easily accessible things - the Violet flames and St Germains, the Kundaliniz and “energiez”.
Remember, the most powerful and profound things are kept secret for a reason, and the most accessible things are so accessible for a reason as well. Being aware that energy exists or knowing of the concept of reincarnation isn’t some super-high level knowledge one might think it is.
It’s nearly as common as knowing the sky is blue - and I’m saying this because we often get people messaging us telling us about their “super secret knowledge”, only to be like “hey, did you know about the concept of reincarnation? It’ll totally change your life and make your subliminals better!”.
It’s very easy to get lost at the start of your journey in the easily accessible things - always be skeptical, because a genuine and legitimate teacher and methodology will be able to answer all your questions.
Over time, you’ll start noticing patterns between all these thousand methods, and you’ll naturally become able to throw out the useless methods. This is twice as true if you naturally have a good intuition, and a thousand times as true if you get access to authentic methods, as then you’ll also be able to experientially tell the difference.
Finally…
I normally don’t like to talk about all these things, because people are easily offended as spirituality is a deeply personal thing for most people. It’s also very tricky to talk about such things when you have to be very careful what you can and can’t say. It’s also extremely hard to put some things and experiences into words, and it’s also hard to rewind and go back to the start of the journey, and explain things in language that is easily understandable without the more complex things later down the line.
Another factor is the fact that we do not want to be spiritual gurus, and neither @SaintSovereign nor myself want people to blindly follow us. I don’t want that karmic responsibility of being someone’s spiritual guru - it’s a massive responsibility. It’s your path, not ours, all we can do is assist. Then, it’s hard to talk about the more high-level things without appearing full of yourself, even if that is not the intention. Instead, I prefer to not talk about it at all and simply continue being humble, as the path is long and the journey winding.
Ultimately, the power is indeed within us, even after all the talk about methods, methodologies and tools.
We have the power to cause great harm to ourselves and to those around us, to completely ruin our lives.
And we have the power to make something truly, profoundly great out of ourselves, to elevate our loved ones to the highest heights, to live beautiful lives and achieve impossible things.
And that is what we want to achieve with Subliminal Club - giving you tools that are rooted in something truly profound and not normally easily accessible, so that you can use these tools to achieve miraculous things.
Because time is ticking. You’re still blinking. Life isn’t going to wait for you.
The time to dig in and transform yourself and your life is now.
The time for greatness is now.
Not some time today. Not tomorrow. Not next week.
Now.
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I appreciate you sharing your experiences, it makes it easier to understand where you’re coming from around all this, cheers.
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I hope I am not breaking forum rules here…
But when I read your post, and specifically this part it made me think of an experience. In 2023 I went “balls deep” in trying to find a spiritual practice. I wanted something beyond just standard daily meditation. Well I stumbled across Golden Dawn material and I bagan to practice the LBRP and Middle Pillar ritual. I’m not sure which did it but 4 months into this practice and it fucked me up beyond belief. My life went into a downward spiral where if I were to share details, at a certain point it would sound like I am making shit up to be dramatic. I lived thru it and looking back, even I have a hard time believing “all that” happened to me.
This is not to offend anyone who does practice golden dawn stuff, I know many love the curriculum, but it wasn’t for me one bit. I only felt the need to share my experience because your post kept emphasizing trying different practices that can actually fuck you up.
So 2 years later I’m back to barebones meditation. I know you said you cannot guide people which path to take, but going by your “you have no time” point, I really wish you could do a “here is what I found works for me” kinda thing.
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You can’t leave us hanging like that, Fire. What are those things that work so well?
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Big fan of barebones meditation.
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Before when i was more into occult theres definitely lots of dangers, all kinds of cool and unique experiences but not massive inner progress, it was interesting connecting to intelligences that could be milions or billion years old but ultimately cant trust them, they have their own agendas, and with some more serious entities can be very dangerous and drove my rage further to destroy others and be in cycle of perpetual war and revenge.
Intuition prevailed eventually realizing this wasnt my spiritual path.
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Yeah, looks really chill
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