SUB CLUB BLACK Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming amongst other things

Questions and Comments
#1

I was looking for “user’s” listening to the Black list of mp3’s such as OBE’s and Lucid Dreaming and RV, there are about 5 of these and one expensive one $179.00 second one for $149.00 I couldn’t find a conversation with these mp3’s other than a description with little to none what type of technologies are being employed!

Such as; Ultima that is the expensive one! I would appreciate to read opinions using these particular set of Subliminals. I realize OBE’s and other esoteric approaches are not number 1 here and maybe the monitors can lead me on their where it’s a little more in-depth besides the description. Investing into these five subliminal’s plus if you invest $99 for the core plus any 14.00 module that might apply or maybe it can’t be customized?

I have an old mp3 from another company it’s a few years old, it was Lucid Dreaming subliminal masking with music or nature, I experienced some things but if you scattered over a 12 month period the results were pretty much not there on a consistent basis. Which I am hoping this will fill in that vacuum. Thanks for you time and support!

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#2

Hey @scarecrow welcome to the forum.

I listened to APX and Dreams on and off over the last year.

I started with APX and had one projection after listening to it for a month. That was in the original Q format.

I tried Dreams Ultima for a few weeks when V2 came out and didn’t have any success with lucid dreaming. I had more vivid dreams and colorful dreams but was unable to gain conscious awareness in them.

During the summer I made a custom with APX and Dreams. This lead to the most success. I was able to have a handful of lucid dreams and a couple of OBEs during the six weeks I listened to it.

Lucid dreaming and OBE stuff are interests that always circle back around for me. I’ll probably update the custom I have to ZP once ZP customs are available.

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#3

The RV and AP combo is 68 USD:

DREAMS is 50 USD

The 179 USD you mentioned is a bundled pack of Alchemist + Remote Viewing + Astral Projection + As Above + So Below.

Not to mention you get the option of a 30% discount on a first time purchase (on the total in your purchaae cart). Plus you get the option of a refund after 30 days if it doesn’t work for you.

Looking at all this, the prices aren’t high.

Regarding the question about technologies being employed, it is subliminal audio.

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#4

Also, most of those conversations are in a forum category here called “SubClub Black” which opens up after purchase. You have to request to be added after purchase as far as I remember.

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#5

Thank you I will keep that in mind!

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#6

I am not use to your lingual what is the APX? lol

#7

Astral Projection X.

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#8

I am new to customizing Subliminals never heard of it before. So please be patient with my question a little while longer to do catchup.

I am reading the whole site and it’s going to take awhile.

A custom with APX and Dreams. what are the steps to customize these two programs?

**Do I start out with the $99.00 core around these 2 programs, and how is my name entered into the equation?.

Does this come with instructs, mostly the listening time. So many days on and off?

Lastly, is it recommended to use my blue cube speak and play it all day long?

#9

Did you look at the How Does The Custom Process Work? article on the support site? The support site also has articles with listening instructions.

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#10

To make a custom you start by selecting 1 to 3 cores. Then you go onto modules that support the cores. With the custom I made I included:
Astral Projection Q Core
Dreams Ultima Core
Mind’s Eye Q Core
Dream Traveler
The Single Point
Immortal’s Blade
Metamorphosis
Omnidimensional
Harmonic Singularity
Deep Sleep

Each module was meant to increase the overall goal of the custom which was to sleep better, have lucid dreams, and have out-of-body experiences.

No, you start off by selecting the cores and modules you want, then you build. The article @Seeker shared shows the process in detail. Cores and modules each cost $14.99, the build cost is $99. The minimum amount of modules and cores is 10 total and up to 20. A custom with 10 modules will cost a minimum of $250 the first time you make it. 20 module custom will run you around $400. Once you pay for the modules you do not need to pay for them again in future customs.

Right now the current pattern is one day on one day off. Also, they do not recommend playing the title all day, one playthrough is all you need. You can read more about that here:

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#11

We are just fellow customers like you who are ready to answer your questions. At first it might seem a little overwhelming but you will get the hang of it.

Personally, I wouldn’t recommend jumping into customs. Not only is it expensive, there is a possibility that you don’t get it right the first time.

Looking at your goals, it is better to start with something like DREAMS and see how it works for a couple of months. After which you can stack the Astral Projection + Remote Viewing to DREAMS and see how that goes.

By that time, you will be a bit more knowledgeable about how to build a custom or even if you want one.

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#12

Yes, I did a few times in fact…My understanding of the Core for $99 seems to escape my understanding for the moment.

#13

I really appreciate helping me out! This site and its associated links is a lot to take up I never heard of this company until a few weeks ago. Thanks Jayvee for the in-depth instructions, I went through all the training materials on this site. Better clarity! If the alchemist Core has 3 or 4 individual titles to listen too plus the modules have whatever numbers of titles to listen to. I appreciate you showing me your core and modules. How long are each Mp3 tracks? I read that the instructions tell you how long to listen to it. So, in your example above how many hours to cover all your cores and modules??? Thanks

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#14

The cores and the modules come as one 1-hour subliminal after you build it.

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#15

The custom was built in QV2. The playtime was one hour. I would suggest holding off on a custom until ZP customs become available. For now you can use Astral Projection X ZP and Alchemist ZP depending on what products you own.

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#16

Thanks so much! I had OBE’s and astral time traveling, not so much lucid dreaming. I’ve read up on ZP I kind of like that 15 only! Sure beats one hour. I will take your suggest and get the $179 Alchemist which includes a variety of the issues I need. If my old junky cd put out twice a month, what you have here and now is going to be a treat.

Thanks for answering my questions. Astral Projection (Core) and Alchemist (Core) I will give it my fair shot and not expect anything by doing it this way, there’s no other direction I can go but up! Thanks to all of you for your support.

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#17

Thank you for your help.

#18

I was thinking and if one uses these Subliminal’s to acquire better memories or for a solid personality, these are in fact, real down earth to do.

But what I want to accomplish like Jayvee has, what could those seeking such things as OBE’s and Lucid dreaming do for a person in the physical realm living day to day? It’s not practical in most peoples lives to make them a living for sure.

I wonder, when listening to zero-point custom mp3 modules along with their associated cores for spirituality purposes, what could I and so few going down this path, using these types of technologies for other than the coolness of OBE’s, Remote Viewing, etc. ?

I have experienced much more of those things over my lifetime. I used a pendulum and glass board to Pick small lottos, yet I never got three the whole month only two for a straight 30 days of use. I think to myself, I did the above on my own while using my faulty subconscious programming.

I wonder (out loud thought), could I have I picked that third number, using the Ultrasonic Subliminal zero-point, training myself with Remote Viewing??? I had few experiences doing remote viewing and experiencing being in the right place at the right time all close together a few years back (Synchronicities)…

It would be interesting to approach life’s chances being able to Remote View trouble before it happens. But like I said, it happened in spite of working with my bad subconscious programming. Any thoughts from all of you in the spiritual listening, I would love to know what u all are hoping to get out of those spiritual cores and modules to applying these new found gifts or abilities in the everyday wakening world…?

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#19

hey finally figuring out things thanks to Jayvee! The thing I don’t understand is, let’s assume I purchased three core and ten modules. If each module has specific listening instructions, how do we accomplish this when, every mP3 has special listening pattern to keep things moving on??? I understand the loops as hours (Time) etc. I am trying to figure out what I can before completing my Custom programs. If I start out with 1 Core and 3 modules not building a custom package as yet. After a month I decide I want to add another 3 modules to build a custom set.

I can then go to customize paying 99.00 how would I add the modules prior into this new custom stack that I want to build?

Personal question to you my unknown mentor when it comes OBE’s, lucid dreams and astral time traveling and much more! May I boldly ask you, after those 6 weeks of using them helped you to obtain your goals. Are you still making gains or slowing down and if your progress seems to be slowing down, what are doing to keep the next six weeks equal to or greater than the last time?

I could you use some of your wisdom on this! I have a very different reason that can’t be told, it maybe another time and another place beyond this site. I don’t want to make this an unfair question or I don’t want you to seem that you are obligated in any such way, to tell me anything! I will rely on your wisdom and understanding of these unique tools.

This question is next million dollar question; how long after learning and showing those OBE’s etc. will this working exercised gift stay with you? Or does one lose their newly trained abilities after not listening anymore for some time.?

Thanks

scarecrow

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#20

Right now OBE’s and lucid dreams aren’t my goals. The changes seemed to happen when I was listening to it. Also, when I listened to APX ZP and Dreams ZP for a couple of weeks I had excellent results. My dream recall was phenomenal, I had a lucid dream, and I almost had an OBE. Once I stopped listening I stopped experiencing these effects. I’m not saying this to knockdown on the subliminals. From personal experience, they work and help you achieve what you are currently focusing on. Since my focus is no longer on those goals, I don’t need that specific subliminal programming.

All of this is possible without subliminals. My first projections happened way before I started listening to subliminals. I did it with pure desire and continuous practice until it happened. Took about a month. Look up Michael Raduga. If you practice consistently and use the subliminals I believe you will be able to achieve your goals in less time.

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