Starting a new life

One thing I can say is that the advice from veterans of the Sub Club has been very valuable, I am happy to have kept things light and focused on a simple 2 sub stack for a solid period of 7 months. I see many users commit too much too quickly, or switch from stack to stack, and many new users just falling off eventually. In that regard I am happy with my results, because I committed to a simple routine with 2 subs that complimented one another.

With that said, one thing I feel I did wrong was possibly over-exposing myself to the subs. I have the ultrasonic playing throughout the day from my speakers in my room blasting very loudly, as I focus on work and come in and out of the room. As a result I tend to over-expose myself to the subs but not only that, the constant loop of the 2 subs throughout the day with the multiple interruptions meant that I was being exposed to certain parts of the subs over others; I would get 1 loop in of each sub interrupted every day, at best.

And instead of adhering to the 1 day on/off rule, I would be listening to them on multiple days one after the other, maybe resting 2-3 times a week in an inconsistent pattern. Perhaps that led to some reconciliation, which is quite possible. @Lion had mentioned that my feeling of under-exposing myself was reconciliation and I can now see why that could be the case, it manifested itself in a feeling of insecurity combined with impatience. One thing I can say is that I will definitely focus on a stricter, lesser schedule with my new stack that I have planned, though I can’t say that I’ll run the Qv2 loop only once (sorry - I will stick to the 1 loop ZP rules though).

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WANTED is a must for every male in my opinion, and despite wanting to try other subs I cannot in my heart take out WANTED because of how valuable it’s been. The changes were slow, frustration set in as the changes were there but not to the level I expected, but the effects really started to be felt by month 6. I’ll be discussing this more in future posts.

Ascended Mogul, on the other hand, had almost the opposite effect on me. The effects kicked in very quickly, and seemed to wane with time. Shifting to Qv2 in month 3 led to a boost again, but eventually I felt the effects stagnate, though again it is hard to say whether it was stagnation or more the increase in standards for myself (definitely living up to its name of ‘Ascension’ in that regard). With that said, I want to try other things and have a more focused direction, so that is why I’ll be replacing AM from my stack (though I do see myself possibly using it again in the future: with QZP anything is possible). What AM did for me was exactly what many users alluded to, which was the creation of a foundation from which to build off of. I am now more attuned with who I am and what I want, which is why the need for more focused stacks has come into my mind.

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And now, a detailed summary of AM’s impact on me since my last update, namely on the ‘mogul’ side of things.

I’ve established myself as one of/the best salesperson on my team, and a leader in my department. My spending situation, while still too excessive for my liking (especially during Black Friday), has become very manageable; I’ve basically become free from credit debt as I’ve been able to pay off my balance regularly. My investments fluctuate (since I’m mostly exposed to cryptocurrency after all), but I’ve made some solid plays with my stock portfolio. My YTD P/L in August for my stocks portfolio was -50% but since then I was able to bring that up to even, which I consider great considering the disasters that occurred at the beginning of the year. No I haven’t made a stupid amount of money, I’m not rich, I haven’t made the best financial decisions (made plenty of awful ones actually) but I’ve become better with managing my money and that is definitely a good start.

While I have done quite well for myself at work, I’ve decided that I need to change things up to be able to put myself in the best situation to make more money because right now I’m making peanuts for the work I’m doing. I have the intentions of going back to school to get into a field that would teach me skills that are applicable to the current and future job market (developing, coding, IT in general) and I am hoping for the best; if I can get accepted into a program, it will be the beginning of a new journey in my life, and one that can lead to more money, freedom and most importantly, self-respect for my own skills. While I always enjoyed school, the last years of university were awful and I did everything I could to make the time pass and fizzled out. I don’t want that to be my final experience of school, I want to end my schooling on a high note because I’ve always loved school, even when I was younger. Getting into this program will give me a chance to do so.

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And here’s a summary of the impact of the ‘ascended’ side of AM on myself.

I’ve had a strong masculine base when I was younger but it was slowly beaten out of me with schooling and life experiences (especially with my ex-girlfriend and my family). However I’m glad to say that I’ve been able to reacquire my previous masculine sense of self, only coupled with a degree of maturity that I did not have when I was younger. My personal life is night and day compared to where it was when I started this journal.

My situation with my family is good and under control, I have a significant amount of emotional control compared to where I was previously. I started the process of getting rid of anti-depressants from my life when I first started this journal and I’m happy to say that that shit is completely out of my life and system, for good (I recommend anyone taking pills to stop that shit as soon as you can).

Fighting has become a passion of mine, I absolutely love it. I spend as much free time as I can to practice muay thai, and have dilligently focused on honing into my craft. While this isn’t exactly a money-making activity and isn’t in line with a mogul’s goals, I consider it to be definitely in line with the goals of the ascended male. I have found my passion, I have been able to develop myself physically and mentally, I have finally found a social environment that I enjoy being in and I feel great for it. I hope to continue to focus on my development and growth in this sport, with the eventual goal of being able to take an actual fight one day. As someone who has always been woefully unathletic but obsessed with sports, it would be amazing to see my hard work pay off in the form of a high-level contest.

At the end of the day, Ascended Mogul will give you whatever you give to yourself. I didn’t focus as much on the ‘mogul’ side of things as much as I did the ‘ascended’ side, but the things I did focus on for the mogul side has paid off and shown dividends. Because my personal growth was more important to me than my material growth, I feel that the ‘ascended’ side of AM helped me significantly more; the impact on my life since then is clear.

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And now for the effects of WANTED…

It took a while for it to work its magic, I’m not going to lie. I grew frustrated but I kept it in constant rotation, and I genuinely feel like it’s doing exactly what it’s supposed to. This is not to say that I didn’t experience results in the early months, I absolutely did. The physical shifting was happening but I feel like WANTED’s role was truly in helping with recomposition more than anything.

Keep in mind that while I was always exercising, I never did anything hypertrophy-related. All of the exercise I do is bodyweight and related to cardio and conditioning.

The most impressive thing was how WANTED developed the exact things I either wish I had or knew that I had and wanted it to be better. For the first time in my life I actually have pecs, this alone has made WANTED worth it for me. I’ve also developed visible quads, which to me is amazing.

My strengths have always been my upper body and I’m really happy with how that’s come along. My delts have started to separate, so the division between the front and middle delt can be seen significantly more now. I have a thick neck but because of my body recomposition, there’s no fat on my neck anymore so it’s looking more masculine. I’ve always been complimented on a strong jawline but it was at its best when I was 140 pounds soaking wet, I was so skinny but my jawline was perfectly defined. Now I’m very close to having that same jawline again, only at 165 pounds instead.

I also started to develop visible abs for the first time since I was a twig a long time ago (and those were skinny boy abs, not real abs like they are now), and while it was nice to see I soon realized that I can’t have a low body fat percentage right now because I need to gain and develop more mass on my legs for fighting. So I’m putting that project on hold for now, as I focus on training my legs more.

Now I knew the physical development happened, but that’s only half the story when it comes to WANTED. WANTED is about feeling the feeling of being wanted, and that effect has only begun recently. It is definitely noticeable though, I’m starting to catch the eye of women looking at me the way they used to when I was younger (before I became fat; weight that I lost from January to May before I started my sub journey) and suddenly, I’m wanted again by the ex who left me, a breakup that triggered my new journey and focus on changing myself for the better.

WANTED has been amazing, and I intend to run it for as long as I can. Now with QZP and it’s high degree of permanence, I’m probably going to have to get it out of my rotation for a little bit eventually (to try all of the other subs), but not for now. I have a plan for my sub journey, I’m not going to be juggling subs left and right. There is a strategy, a plan and a short-term and long-term vision of what I want and need to do, and how to tailor my life to where it needs to be. I have already begun my new sub stack, and will be opening a journal about it soon.

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Wanted ZP is a great sub…. Thank you for sharing…

So long story short; Ascended Mogul was an excellent choice of sub for a beginner, it really laid the groundwork for my development. If you’re new to this, it may be tempting to try a little bit of everything but don’t. Have some self-control for God’s sake, it’ll be better for you, trust me. This isn’t supposed to be something quick that you’ll throw money at and forget about after, this is the beginning of a new path to learning that you want to stay on, ideally for the rest of your life. If you want to build a large house, the foundation must be strong. Don’t cheapen out. If you need to develop your masculinity and confidence, get Ascension. If you want to improve your money habits and your ability to work/status as a worker, get Mogul. This sub is probably the most general one in the store (StarkQ too, but I think the Emperor scripting makes Stark a little bit too big of a step-up for a beginner; just go for AM, trust me).

WANTED, on the other hand, should be run by every male using an attraction/dating/sex/aura sub. This sub is a fucking must. How the hell are some of you running PS, S&S, Diamond, etc. without WANTED? It’s truly the perfect complement to every sub that has at least a bit of “alpha” scripting, and the physical shifting tech is really something to behold.

Just want to thank everyone that posted in this journal for your help and your feedback. It was so valuable, and you have taken a part in changing my life forever. This community is amazing, extremely friendly, helpful, and accepting, I could not thank you guys enough.

I came into this forum a broken man who had only begun to glue the pieces back together, shattered from one blow after the other. I end this journal as the man I once was, but older, more mature and wiser. I was a lost boy for so long, and now I have been found.

I named this journal “starting a new life” as that was what I needed; a new start and a new life.

This new life that I wanted has begun, and it’s my own. Now, the journey begins.

Thanks for reading.

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@DarkPhilosopher @RVconsultant can you guys unlist this thread as well? Thanks.

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aargh! just now seeing the final follow-up (from December). Before it’s unlisted, could you tell for how long you ran WANTED? Those results sounded great.

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From May to December, no ZP and only Qv2.

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:pray:t4::pray:t4::pray:t4:

Thank you!

I actually just did a copy and paste to another document so I could re-read your summary later, in case this thread really does get hidden.

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