Stacking QL and Alchemist

Good idea, bad idea? Thoughts?

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I’m planning ahead. After my recent experiences with manifestation and the continued success that I’ve had, I want to run both Alchemist and Quantum limitless at some point in the near future. The goal would be to push my spiritual and cognitive development to the next level. Specifically I want to maximize and deepen my manifestation abilities while taking in and utilizing a lot of spiritual and material information.

So I suppose I’m trying to get an idea of what future options I have for multistages.

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@Athanaxos is doing this stack. Hope he replies.

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I don’t think he is doing both QL and Alchemist in a single stack though.

If you have access to Subliminal Club Black, you can check his journal:

https://www.subliminalresults.com/t/journal-strange-days-ahead-quantum-alchemist/12549?u=lion

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Personally, I won’t recommend starting both together. I would do something like this:

  • QL ST1
  • QL ST2
  • QL ST3
  • QL ST4
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST1
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST2
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST3
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST4

(Each of those above steps in 2 or 3 cycles)

You could add one more title to this stack. For example with WANTED:

  • QL ST1 + WANTED
  • QL ST2 + WANTED
  • QL ST3 + WANTED
  • QL ST4 + WANTED
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST1 + WANTED
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST2 + WANTED
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST3 + WANTED
  • QL ST4 + ALCHEMIST ST4 + WANTED
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What’s the context? And what’s your background?

Those are what will tell you if it’s a workable idea or not.

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(Great outfit for the Russian steppes in winter. Not so good for the Australian outback in summer.)

So what do you want to use them for? Why do you want to run them together? I would assume that it’s related to some kind of synergistic effect that you want to achieve and apply. Is that right? Or is it something else?

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:wink:

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Thanks for the ping @Lion !

Indeed I am running both QL and Alchemist, but like Lion said - not in the same stack. And I would recommend against doing that. Each of them require their own time in the spotlight!

I am running a schedule of alternating stacks: One Quantum Limitless stack, and one Alchemist Stack. After 1 cycle of one stack I switch to the other stack and so on, until I have done each stack for at least two cycles. Then repeat the process for the next stage.

So, when I am done with one cycle, say QLst2, I can let it “bloom”, while I proceed to “install” the Alchemist st2. And since I am alternating stacks I also get the possibility to mix and match 4 additional titles in my listening schedule (max 3 per stack though!). In this way I have been able to gain benefit from both sooner than if I would have focused on just one at a time.

My listening schedule to illustrate:

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Although doing it like this means it will take me 50 weeks to complete both in Stage 4! It’s a trade-off. If I had focused on just one multistage I could have completed that one in just 25~weeks. In this regard @Lion 's listening pattern example above is a really great alternative!

So, personally I think it is an excellent idea to do both if you want to improve both spirituality and cognitive functions (and energy) but, to echo Lion’s wise words, don’t start with both at the same time in the same stack! :blush:

Also like @Malkuth pointed out - what is it that you desire to achieve with running both of them? :slight_smile:

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I love this.

Elegant.

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Ah stahp it, you! You’re making me blush :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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I want to maximize both the spiritual and material powes of my mind. I’m playing with the idea of becoming a professional acedemic (of sorts) studying spirituality and mysticism.

My hope would be that by running both I would be strengthening and enhancing my mind as a whole–both yin and yang–while also increasing learning and productivity for the scholarly work I would be doing.

Since I would be studying these spiritual texts, perhaps I would get the dual benifits of spiritual and intellectual understanding.

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Okay, yeah that makes sense. Pretty much integrate one entire multistage by running each stage for a few cycles, then begin the second multistage after you’ve ran stage 4 of the previous for a few cycles?

I want to run KHAN, QL, and Alchemist…what do you think of this crazy idea based on your pattern?

YEAR 1

KHAN ST1 + CUSTOM 2-3
KHAN ST2 + CUSTOM 2-3
KHAN ST3 + CUSTOM 2-3
KHAN ST4 + CUSTOM 2-3

YEAR 2

KHAN ST4 + QL ST1 2-3
KHAN ST4 + QL ST2 2-3
KHAN ST4 + QL ST3 2-3
KHAN ST4 + QL ST4 2-3

YEAR 3

QL ST4/ KHAN ST4 + ALCH ST1 2-3
KHAN ST4/QL ST4 + ALCH ST2 2-3
QL ST4/KHAN ST4 + ALCH ST3 2-3
KHAN ST4/QL ST4 + ALCH ST4 2-3

YEAR 3 DETAILS
Alternate between KHAN St4 and QL st4 every other cycle of Alchemist for all stages.

CYCLE 1
QL ST4 + ALCH ST1

CYCLE 2
KHAN ST4 + ALCH ST1

CYCLE 3
QL ST4 + ALCH ST1

YEAR 4 COMPLETION

KHAN ST4 + QL ST4 + ALCH ST4

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Yes. Your stacking plan will work. The only thing I would not recommend is:

Khan ST1 is better run solo. Same with DR ST1 (Sanguine or Spartan or Sage Immortal or CWON are better stacking options with K ST1 and DR ST1 since they help reduce recon).

Also what is Custom 2-3?

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Okay. Got it.

I was wondering if it was something like that.

I am similar.

I follow a path which is like jnana yoga.

The conceptual-analytical dimension and the ontological-mystical dimension are working in concert.

And I did run Alchemist and Quantum Limitless concurrently. I did so between July 2020 and May 2021.

By May 2021, I had played 3 months each of stages 1-3 of AL and QL; and I’d played 1 month of stage 4 of both programs.

My goal was to build a custom that unified the stage 4 program cores of both programs (together with Mind’s Eye). And that’s what I did in May 2021. I called it Naissance (as ‘birth’, ‘creation’, ‘gestation’, ‘being’). I played that version of Naissance (it was Qv2) for ~4 months, May to September.

(After that point, I finally admitted that my focus was Dragon Reborn. And Naissance has been largely sitting down since then. Now that there are ZP customs, I am redesigning my customs stack. The original Naissance is basically retired. :cry:)

Anyway, the bottom line is: I played them in the same stack for 10 months. And then in the same custom for 4 months.

(For most of the time when I was doing this, the programs were in Q version. When I built Naissance, Qv2 had just been introduced.)

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Cycles lol, whoops.

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For Khan stacking I was thinking either PCC to increase the healing and power of total breakdown or a pure physical shifting custom. What do you think?

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That’s upto you. Either will work.

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