I want to make a Dragon Reborn ST4 Custom, but I remember reading that ST4 Cores shouldn’t be put in customs because of density? Can’t remember. Wish I had the quote. Anyway. Is it ok to do a 10 module custom with DR ST4 as the core with the other modules being primarily result enhancers? Better yet. Can I do an 11 module custom with DR ST4 and LBFH as the 2 cores? Can’t do a ticket cause I won’t get answer in time for my next cycle. Your thoughts on both options would be greatly appreciated. Happy New Year! 
Give it a shot. Maybe you can handle it.
Have you run all the stages of DR?
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I’ve ran ST1 and ST2. Looking to bypass ST3 and go straight to ST4. I was wondering if anyone remembers Saint or Fire cautioning not to run ST4s in customs. And even if you have run ST4s, was it just that core or was it paired with another core, and what were your experiences?
Since you have run ST1 and 2, that’s a good thing.
I don’t remember them cautioning against it. I could be wrong though.
Maybe someone else will have the right answer to this.
Do put in a support ticket even if you will get a late answer. It could be useful for any later customs you make.
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I skipped stage 3 and went to stage 4. I regretted it.
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Why did you regret it?
I had 2 months of reconciliation from hell.
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I see. I’m going to pair it with an Ascension/LBFH custom so just 1 loop of each.
DR is awesome. I would recommend you go through it stage by stage, without skipping.
After you run DR st4 for perhaps 60 days, then maybe consider putting it in a custom.
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It was saint who advised against a st 4 ZP custom
I have a Dragon Reborn st 4 Q/Qv2/ZP custom
Works very fine.
i have also a Emperor Fitness st4 ZP custom and it works like a charm.
My advise would be to go trough all stages and stay at least 3 months with st4 until you build a Dragon Reborn st 4 custom.
Trust me on this buddy
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All of the ZP v2 customs in my stack have stage 4 cores in them.
NAISSANCE ZPv2 has Alchemist stage 4: The Alchemist
SAPIENS ZPv2 has Quantum Limitless stage 4: Quantum Limitless
PATHS ZPv2 has Ecstasy of Gold stage 4: Ecstasy of Gold Complete.
The general rule is this: All else being equal (that part’s important), The denser your program, the longer it will take to process.
This is true for anything, not just subs.
Takes longer to eat a brownie than to eat a croissant.
And if you try to eat a food that’s just super-dense, (I don’t know, let’s say Rhinoceros Bone cookies or something), you simply won’t be able to chew them at all.
So the spirit of the advice makes sense, but it’s an area that can only be precisely answered through your own personal experimentation. That’s a pricey experiment. And even if it works, you may need to wait longer for that successful outcome. So, you can see why it might be good advice to just stick to lighter and more certain approaches to Custom Building; especially earlier on in your sub journey.
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Ok but why? ST3 is in ST4 and the sales page says you can do ST4 from jump. And why not a custom? Dragon’s q page says it’s more effective because of name embedding. Most of my modules are result enhancers.
I feel you. I planned to run The ST4 custom and Ascension/LBFH custom for 6 months. If it became too much then I would switch it up.
See, you can do what you want. You can do all the stages 1 cycle each. Or you can do all the stages 4 cycles each. Or do ST1 and then ST4. Or even jump to ST4 without doing any of the previous stages.
Also remember, ST2 is also in ST4. So why did you do ST2? You could have jumped straight to ST4. Why do ST1 then?
What am trying to say is that @Leandros ‘s advice (and everyone else’ s) is to help you get the best results based on official recommendations and personal experiences
Also each stage builds upon the previous stages in a tried and tested way so that you don’t get overwhelmed by jumping straight to the end.
Sometimes you have to digest softer food before you get to the not so soft ones (stole that idea from @Malkuth).
In the end, only you can decide what to do for yourself. Think about the advice and let your will be done, my friend 
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I did ST1 and ST2 because it deals with breaking down and healing Trauma and I felt I needed that so I combined them w/ LBFH. I also felt I could get the effects of ST3 in ST4 if I ran it for 6 months and possibly any other alpha title I would run there after. I absolutely appreciate the advice. I’m just trying to understand the reasons as to why cause you guys will say
or
And not explain why. So my asking questions is just trying to understand the why. I’ll try it my way and see how it goes. Thanks again, guys.
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Here were some of the stated reasons:
But I think you have decided on what you want to do. It’s your call.
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Ok
Let me try it
I have done Dragon Reborn for 1 1/2 year solo.
I had built a custom for every stage and 3 customs for stage 4 (q/qv2/Zp)
Healing is something you take serioussly
Healing subs overpower every other sub because its the most transformative process and needs unbelivable power.
Every stage is here for you to aclimatisize whats comming in st 4
St4 unleashes the whole power at once not just a 1/3
A st 4 Dragon Reborn custom wil stir up problems you never know you had. Specially after a halve year 
You can try and see for yourself if you can handle it and i hope for you that you can but if you cant handle it then i wish you good luck on your journey.
Last advise from my site- if you have to go to st4 without st 3 no problem its your choice but to build a st4 custom with only resultenhancer "mama mia you have balls or dont know whats coming for you.
Try before buy
All the best to your journey
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Remember there is context to what I am saying.
You said:
I did that and I regretted it.
There is context to my regret.
That is what I wished I had done.
Does that clarify?
If not, what information would you need to help clarify?
You can also contact customer support for more input.
If you really want to skip to stage 4, no one is going to stop you.
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Haha. I actually answered the question somewhat generically, as if it were about Stage 4s in general. I genuinely forgot that you were talking about Dragon Reborn.
Hm 
So you’ve already been through Stage 1 and Stage 2 of DR?
Did you not get your ass kicked?
What was your experience like?
Your own experience will be the best indication of what to do next.
Even if Stage 1 or 2 felt like this for you:
it would probably still be a good idea to do at least a week or two of Stage 3 before diving into your Stage 4 custom.
But yes, as everyone says, you’re free to experiment. Individuals vary and we do not know the condition of your mind. Follow your own gut. If it gets too intense, you can always just stop for a while or switch.
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I feel like we’re getting off on the wrong foot. Maybe a result of DR. I merely meant that the initial advice was vague and that I had to ask why so that you guys would explain. After everyone explained I responded by saying that I understood. But I guess my willingness to go ahead to ST4 anyway seemed like I didn’t appreciate the advice. I fully understand and appreciate everyone’s advice.