Pheww thank god! that’s a relief… btw please check my inbox message 
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Agree on that one, once you’ve build great foundations there won’t be a need for Ascension as you would have great allies and I’ve also noticed that on Stark as well, in the 3 months where I was heavenly on it a lot of people where always standing up for me, even if me and friends we’re just playfully hunting each other if you know what I mean.
On Stark you really scourge any social conversations where don’t even need to put yourself at a position of an Alpha as you’re pretty much beyond that and you are always 7-steps ahead, more over you magnetize anyone and everyone; so it won’t ever come to a sword for sword battle.
@mecharc just to clarify so you don’t get discouraged. Often when I’m helping someone on the forum I feel out what they need and it doesn’t always cover the advice for another person, and it was far from a detailed explanation of what Stark is, Stark really takes a good 3 weeks to fully come ‘online’ and then you’ll feel it, you’ll be above the world.
There’s just something on Ascension that feels right for me as I’m more of a Feminine person already, and as Saint mentioned in the thread above everyone reacts to scripts differently because of there underlying energetic principles.
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Aaah thanks for taking the time to explain! really appreciate it
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Would running beyond limitless along side Emperor help make it more creative.
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So an Emperor combined with a Stark would be Lex Luthor lol.
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I am Stark Q + Ascension for last 10 days and one thing I am noticing is that even when I mean no harm, people are misreading the situation. This has happened 6-7 times in last 10 days. First couple of situations ended up in a confrontation. On the rest 4-5 situations I often clarify my intention. Though on the inside I still feel like the mini-version of Emperor. I feel like why can’t I have things my way?
The sexual aspect has gone down by a lot. So I guess I should change Ascension with Primal instead?
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Not hermit and don’t have as much experience as him
but what I have to say may offer you something
Ascension may create challenges with other men in the beginning
while you learn to/ orient yourself as someone who stands up for themselves.
Your natural rise in status may also cause friction with people who have come to expect, and be able to deal with, you a certain way.
Your may be speaking with an unconscious conviction or authority or speaking your mind more freely in a way that can also be misconstrued-you might need to pay extra conscious attention to this in the beginning.
My personal theory is when your serotonin, the internal status neurochemical, levels don’t much the status others are perceiving from you-it may be uncomfortable for you and have you at a loss of how to handle things-(this is pure speculation). This seems to adjust in time.
I would stick to Ascension or Stark if your really having trouble, and then add the other one once your somewhat acclimated. Primal is generally considered a more difficult sub to run then either of those.
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Have you tried Stark Q and Emperor Q together?
Also I want to add whatever you do after a few days doubt will set n and you’ll see problems most likely. Push through, keep going, guide the sub with your conscious intent and you’ll slowly steer it in the right direction. Of course there are still better choices and worse ones depending on what you want to get but you can do a lot by guiding it consciously to fit your needs.
I think that dude is long gone lol
Stark + Godlike Masculinity works wonders.
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Still here. Though not updating the thread now as this was more of Q&A thread. I am still on:
Stark Q + Ascension
The only issue I am having now is the infrequent headaches. I am trying to reduce the loops and give some gap in between loops.
I stacked StarkQ with Godlike Masculinity last night since I wanted to add some edge to the Feminine Energy Stark increases. Stark alone makes me to passive, calm and “soft”.
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I am thinking of creating a custom combining Stark with Khan ST4 and Power Can Corrupt.
The main subs I am running now combine Ascension with Primal and Sex Mastery with the other custom being Stark, Primal Seduction and Ultimate Artist.
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I made a new custom with AM, Stark, Emp HoM, and some modules like invincible presence, godlike masculinity, and leader of men so im excited to see how those mix together plus other modules. I was running an emperor custom but wanted something with more creativity and more social. I was gonna try Emp instead of AM but thought i would get acclimated to this mix before really mixing it up.
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I ran the combo StarkQ + KhanQ (St4) (1 loop/nigh each) for a couple of days and I had very good results. Then I switched to StarkQ + SanguineU (1 loop/nigh each) and it was very good too. StarkQ alone is good but too much of the Feminine energy since it’s a unisex sub, I guess.
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Can you say more about StarkQ +KhanQ Stage 4, self effects, results, etc.?
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Will follow your progress to see how this stack works for you
Looking forward to @Sub.Zero & @Floridianninja’s results, are the two of you journaling?
On Stark I do feel feminine, now it doesn’t hurt me socially, actually prefer it. On the action side of things, I feel less drive and pushed to evolve myself, undisciplined, my long-term focus is all over the place.
Was thinking about Khan + Stark and maybe even Power Can Corrupt/Daredevil but I haven’t ever used Khan so I’m kind of hesitant to move forward with it.
That said, one thing I’ve noticed on Stark is that I sleep very badly, I always end up having sleep deprivation. It’s like I’m sleeping consciously, and my dreams are third person and very weird. @TarMac, reported something very similar in his journal. On top of that, there’s a very distinct reconciliation cycle with Stark, it must be New Beginnings and it’s something that never goes away for me. It just keeps coming and coming, and I do not like it, lol!
Have any of you experienced or noticed this from Stark as well? Do keep in mind that I’m running it solo with 3 loops a day.
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I don’t remember the details since it was around two months ago but I felt a powerful masculine energy inside and I easily connected with people and made them amazed with my personality, knowledge and eloquence. The results were much better than when I was running StarkT alone (1loop then 2 then 3) and later on StarkQ (2loops then 3).