Social aspect of Emperor?

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#1

Hey everyone. I know there’s a similar topic post already but its an old post and very less information i got from it.

So, the people who ran it or running Emperor, how’s your social life? How’s your social skills, people’s reactions towards you and fun in life?

I struggle with my social aspect sometimes thats why i never ran Emp, being said that i heard people saying it makes them antisocial. I’ve read posts and i know its because you’re so busy with being productive that you don’t really have time to waste time and energy on useless stuff unless its important for you or you genuinely want to be social. Correct me wherever i’m holding wrong beliefs about it coz i just downloaded the Q2 update and i want to use it coz its one of the most popular titles of Subclub i guess and i’m so hyped up about it.

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#2

Okay so apparently some people believe that Emperor adapts and if you want to be social then Emperor will make you social. I didn’t find this to be the case for me.

Emperor definitely made me antisocial. It made me more productive in the little time I ran it but I didn’t talk much at all.

But you could pair it with True Social and get that aspect out of it if you wanted.

Experiences may vary from other that ran Emperor tho.

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#3

Use the sub which align bests with your wants.

Socializing aint emperor’s priority, goals are.
Everything else will be a byproduct of this priority.
You won’t become antisocial, you will just be hyperfocused on your goals.
you won’t feel nudges to socialize, you will feel nudges towards the goal.

Even If Socializing is your goal, you still won’t feel nudges to socialize,
The Emperor doesn’t consider it as a worthy goal.

You are better off with khan/daredevil.

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#4

Here’s my experience with Emperor.

TL;DR: I liked it a lot, but it wasn’t compatible with my current work situation. Emperor brought out my “Get the F*** out of my way, or I will CRUSH you!” attitude, and that does not fit in too well in a corporate environment, unless you are the CEO. Spoiler alert: I am not.

Long version:
If some specific socializing distracts you from your goals, you’ll be less inclined to participate… ie drinking with buddies on the weekend, vs working on your business/goals.

However, if the socializing does help further your goals (meeting with a mentor, potential business partner etc for coffee) then no issues whatsoever.

Where I fell down with Emperor is I have little to no tolerance for bull$hit, and that includes anything with the barest hint of bureaucracy. When my role was more “wear all the hats, figure it out however we can, just get it done”, thatr’d work well. But now my company is much larger and I need to play nice with a large group of people, many of whom want to do everything by committee and progress has slowed to a crawl. A snail’s crawl.

That is very frustrating to me, because there’s often a huge rush to get somerthing ready for an arbitrary deadline, and then we wait WEEKS to get someone from finance, or marketing, etc to give their feedback on some minor detail.

I felt very “empowered” on Emperor (v4), but there was substantial pushback from the people I was being “too alpha” with. For the sake of maintaining professional relationships and my job security (ugh, how I hate that I still have to deal with BS like that) I dropped it in favor of Stark and some other ones.

I haven’t listened to Emperor for over a year now, because I already can’t stand workplace BS, and I suspect Emperor would make me even less tolerant of it.

So, I’m holding Emperor in reserve for the time when I have more control over my work once again and can crank away on projects and goals without having to wait for committees to tell me whether or not I’m approved to do something our CEO directly told me to do. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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#5

Will the same apply for Khan? In the work setting. I know you didn’t run Khan but will the same ideology apply?

What in your opinion work well at the work place ? AM?

#6

I’ve never touched Khan, I’ve come to the conclusion that I’ve got some issues surrounding my perception of that mindset. Short version is, the archetype that springs to mind when I think of Khan is “bully”, and I’m not 100% certain why. Characters that personify my mental picture of Khan are Khal Drogo from GoT and Raza from Iron Man. Neither of those characters are people I particularly like. The mindset they present, at least my perspective of it, is a huge turnoff.
I’d much rather have the playful/cocky self confidence of Tony Stark.

With that being said, yes I think the same ideology would apply, at least for me.

I’ve heard nothing but good things about AscMogul, yet I’ve never bought it… I went right to Stark. My goto for work productivity now is Executive and Beyond Limitless. I’ve been playing with RM lately as well, but no firm conclusions yet. I do think AM would be a great option, especially with the recent Qv2 upgrade!

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#7

Emperor is not anti-social
the scripting of Emperor puts a huge emphasis on productivity, and raising one’s own status
and this can cause a stronger interest in other things than socializing. The confidence and status on Emperor actually makes socially easier-when there is a purpose to do so or it fits within a larger alignment to your life. If your looking to be more confident around people socially Emperor is a great sub, if your looking to prioritize or focus on enjoying socializing and making new friends Emperor would not be the sub to run.

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#8

100% agreed. It’s all about priorities.

I’m not too social to begin with… I have friends that I see just a few times a year, and that’s fine. I have other friends that I haven’t seen in several years, even though they live just a couple of hours away at most.

If hanging out with someone furthers a goal, then Emperor wouldn’t stand in the way of doing so. Playing a round of golf (or grabbing a beer/coffee) with a business contact? Awesome. Hanging out just to kill time or commiserate how sitting on our asses and watching junk tv somehow still hasn’t made any of us millionaires?
No go.

If Emperor is making you not want to spend time with certain people, or do certain activities, then there’s a good chance those people/activities are not aligned with your goals, so they should be reevaluated as to whether or not they deserve a place in your life at the moment.

This was before I discovered SC, but a few years ago I read Marie Kondo’s book and decided I needed to declutter my social circle because many of the people I knew were not bringing joy into my life. So, I said goodbye and stopped talking to them. I’m not sure exactly how that anecdote fits with a discussion re: Empreror but it feels like it does somehow, so there ya go.

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#9

I ran Emperor a long time ago, so my view on it might be outdated, but I basically agree with BLACKICE. Productivity and 0 tolerance for bullshit yes, but being too alpha not exactly. I was very brief and almost machine like at work. And kind of sort of even when having fun. I treated it like an objective to be achieved.

By contrast Khan is much more robust. It has a focus on social too. And on Khan I’m not a bully, I am dominant most of the time, but when a senior gives me advice, or manager wants something from me I allow them to take the reigns, no problem. And people actually like me a lot more, than before, when I was running other stuff (DR).

If you already have Emperor, then go for it. Try it yourself and see what happens. I can promise I didn’t ruin any relationships when I was on it.

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#10

After reading everyone’s experiences or results, one question is all i’m left with:
Doesn’t Emp have fun in life?

#11

Bruh. Just run StarkQ.

Emperor is Pro Dignity. (Think Renaissance High Society)

With Emperor, you will have to kill me for me to compromise on good manners.

Emperor teaches you self respect, on a level that is befitting an Emperor in his court.
And through that self respect, you will learn to keep your mouth shut.

I see no one talking about this.

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#12

Sure they do, just after their work is done! :rofl:

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#13

Add True Social Ultima or Daredevil to Emperor if you want the social fun aspect.

If you feel that it is expensive, better to give up the social aspect for a little while while you build yourself up especially financially. You will always have time later to find friends

Else run StarkQ. It is an alround social and alpha title

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#14

:rofl:

(Not that I’m suggesting anyone not get Daredevil or any other sub; but for countering the alleged antisocial effects of Emperor, it would be akin to listening to a weight loss sub, and then wanting another sub to make you want to eat desserts again because you miss the taste!)

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#15

@Abhishek

What did you decide about Emperor?

#16

After discussing with alot of people and watching journals, posts and all i think i’ll go with

Emperor + PSITU + ICQ

How will that be?

#17

I would like to give you input. What would be your goals or plans?

#18

Well sir,
My goals include:
•completely getting out of social anxiety
•stop being a people pleaser
•insane confidence, bravery, dominance (basically alpha male)
•great abundant social life
•wealth generation
•career acceleration (i sing, want to improve my singing skills and grow as a great popular singer)
•intelligence, productivity and work ethic.

Bonus goal:
•love life tune up

#19

I think your goals and subliminals look like you gave it thought and planning. Looks like a match to me! Are you planning on keeping an online journal?

#20

I would start a journal once i’m 100% sure of starting off with this stack. Are you sure it isn’t too much? Can i start with all at once or add the stackers later on?