I have a very simple curiosity:
Do seduction titles like Primal Seduction, Wanted and Khan have the potential to make even a totally clueless, virgin, non-romantic person have plenty of women? Or do you need at least a minimum of previous experience?
What is the potential of such a person who has absolute zero in the field of love, if he listened to this title?
yes, in Khanâs description it is mentioned Khan will transform even the most stubborns.
It makes sense for Khan, yes, that takes you on a journey where you transform in stages.
Instead, as regards for PS and W, which are (perhaps) more focused, can we expect the same?
No sub will âmakeâ you anything. Least of all Zero Point. They only bring out what you bring to it.
Gotta take action. Thatâs what makes it fun though.
Yes, the action is the key point, you are right. I suppose though that a person with zero experience will be so misaligned with the script that they will need massive action and will also get a lot of recon.
Think of it in the same way one might look at a funnel in marketing. Break it down into as many small chunks as you can, then get busy optimizing each chunk.
Improvement in any one chunk of a seduction funnel will improve overall results.
If I were gonna start fresh with subs, Iâd go with Primal Seduction, Sex Mastery , Diamond as a stack. Covers the meeting and the mating all together.
Remember, your goal is to enjoy them. Not just to have a lot of them. Thatâs a better focus of your attention.
To be free. And to enjoy them. And to let them enjoy you.
I think the best title for this would be Primal. It removes the fear of rejection, breaks your sexual chains and liberates you to be a carefree man in the presence of any woman.
If you want to also heal the relationship you have with women, add Heartsong to Primal.
Love Bomb for Humanity will also heal the relationship you have with yourself so that you can bring the most loving version of you wherever you go.
So if you have only one slot in your stack, run Primal. But if you want to dedicate yourself to this goal, go with Love Bomb for Humanity + Heartsong + Primal.
you rephrased my sentence in the best way.
now that youâve mentioned him you think Primal can deal with other kinds of fears as well , such as fears of success, fear of opening up emotionally, fear of rejection and judgment, etc ⌠or better a healing title?
Another interesting question Iâve always had with seduction titles is whether you need to accompany them with some seduction literature, or act completely natural and let the sub guide you.
Because for example from the point of view of the character mentioned above, of zero experience, it would be difficult to know what to do or say, so it would be the sub who leads him socially, without him having any kind of conscious knowledge? and if it were helpful to use literature on seduction, if you wanted to do without and with only action & sub, would you get good results anyway?
Primal is enough for all this especially if you want healing in relation to seduction.
This is upto you. You can succeed with or without reading material.
Everybody has their own opinions, and weâre all human after all. So youâll need to explore and find your own answers in the end.
But this is a discussion forum, so Iâm going to share my opinions (at least the opinions I have so far).
Women are not spoils of war or rewards to be won or lost.
Theyâre just people.
They are not the signs that your life is a success or not a success.
Theyâre just people.
They are not perfectly noble, angelic beings who are here to make you happy, and they are not plotting, scheming, devious scoundrels who are bent on ensuring your downfall.
Theyâre just people.
Imperfect, lonely, creative, selfish, bored, egocentric, generous, lovely, despicableâŚpeople.
Theyâre not all identical and interchangeable.
So the idea of âgetting a womanâ is a little silly.
Which one?
Do you even like this particular one?
Yes?
Good.
What do you like about her?
What else?
What else?
Good. Now weâre dealing with something.
And what do you like about her compared to that other one?
Those are the questions.
Gather the answers to those questions, and youâre already doing âseductionâ.
This is just one approach. But itâs the one I favor personally.
I am not a person who likes trying to force myself to have âfunâ at parties that I did not want to go to.
I donât want to pretend to like a woman because someone else says Iâm supposed to like her.
Thatâs idiotic (in my opinion).
If you donât like this party, then go find somewhere that you do like.
If you donât enjoy this woman, then go find one that you do enjoy.
Okay. This is already too long. These are opinions.
I have not read anywhere here virgins getting lucky from Khan.
I have read a few have become men on Wanted after several month.
Some of our resident ladies man (@Saiyan4Blue and @Myster I can remember but there are lots of other) used something that seemed to work well : 1-2 cycles of Primal made them pretty bold, confident and successful then PS had them getting laid quite quickly.
Khan, Wanted, Emperor
Iâd say those will help suck the boy out and deploy the man in them
Iâm curious if youâre addicted to porn? Because if so, thatâs step 1.
@FoxDie : This might sounds counter intuitive but for a virgin and a total clueless with women, I say start with LBFH. The dating game is more brutal than people think. Donât go in there if your self-esteem is not as solid as it could be because you will have to deal with rejection sooner or later and sometimes rejection will make really question your self-worth and your identity. Especially if you have no game, with you probably donât have as a virgin. So if you have no game or experience, at least build yourself a high self- esteem and bulletproof confidence.
In my opinion, stack LBFH and Ascension for a few rounds before you run a proper seduction title.
Iâm now on DR, itâs not my goal to listen to seductive titles at the moment.
By the way in the introduction to the thread with âcompletely incapable and zero experienceâ I wasnât talking about myself haha, I was talking about a hypothetical character at his very very low.