Hmm knowing what we know now, this is probably a @Fire title.
Your clever @Sebastian_Po i think your onto something this is indeed the new iron throne.Another thing is iron throne is yang based which is fire. Fire creates alot off yang based fire products. Whilst Saint makes more spiritual based products.
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On the other hand, Saint said that the first title Fire wanted to release was hilarious and he assumed that nobody would ever guess what it was. It may be some title almost utterly focused on romance and not on sex and seduction so much. I mean, a title that would make women fall in love with you rather than make them want to just fuck you. If it makes sense to you, guys.
Perfect Lover. 
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@SaintSovereign Don’t want to push you both in any way, but when can we expect a Regeneration upgrade? All its healing cousins got an upgrade but he feels left out.
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@SaintSovereign @Fire I didn’t notice until yesterday that you both changed your profile pic
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The final title of NFTW has arrived. A @Fire masterpiece.
@Fire vs. @SaintSovereign begins in September.
See you soon.
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Hmmm so i’m thinking mind’s eye will be september and EoG will be october lol… Maybe get some other cool release and revamped titles in september
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Is there a module in the Q-store similar to the energy purification scripting is Alchemist stage 1?
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This is a surprise for a lot of people. Very cool and happy for all of you that have been waiting for this. @Floridianninja As cool as it would be to have EOG right now I’m actually weirdly happy that @SaintSovereign and @Fire are taking their time with it.
Why I say weirdly is because of how ridiculously impatient I have been in the past
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October is still 2 months away lol … i wasn’t saying they would release it now … i’d say them doing EoG in October gives them ample time to make it amazing but it’s just a guesstimate
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I know. I was just making an observation. I apologize for any misunderstanding
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I have weirdly never run Alchemist or EOG…
It’s possible @James a spiritual title may help you in ways you cannot imagine… if you can let go and open up to the invisible workings of the universe… These titles don’t impose regimented beliefs on the listener
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The closest I can see is Energetic Restoration. And Synergy: Energetic Transcendence for one’s overall energy needs.
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They’ve asked us to stop doing that.
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Actually you know what this color scheme reminds me of?
Only question is: which one of you two is Deadpool and which one is Logan? 
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In the color scheme sense, Fire is Deadpool and Saint is Wolverine (looking at their costumes).
But based on personality, Saint is more Deadpool (more talkative and funny) and Fire is more Wolverine (muscular and the silent type).
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May be it’s just the four elements; Fire, Air, Water, Earth
The funny thing too when you take the comparison further is, neither one of them can save the world without dying on their own, but when they join hands and listen to bad 80’s music… BOOM!
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Hahaha! Excellent point 
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The truth of the matter is that we don’t fit any stereotype of a “Deadpool” or “Wolverine.” And again, Fire vs. Saint is a philosophical “competition” reflecting the battle that everyone has between their ambition and inner life. We will continue to reiterate this, because Subliminal Club is not about us, it’s about creating products that can help people from all walks of life find THEIR Zero Point. We do not define the Zero Point, because it is not about us.
We will never present ourselves as anyone’s leader, or “guru.” To be honest, I have a severe issue with the concept of “gurus” in the modern sense, because I can’t stand any individual claiming to know the truth and the absolute truth. I have such a rebellious streak that I often rebel against myself if I’m being too hard or demanding on myself internally (to get a task done or something).
It’s one of the reasons why we eschew becoming “influencers,” or writing self-help books and the such. Our business philosophy is and always will be – serve the customer in the best way that they can, so that they become their own gurus.
But, I do want to touch on the topic of the perception of spirituality in regards to our titles. There’s a misconception that spirituality equates to weakness, and we find that some people avoid those titles completely because they are worried about being influenced toward the New Age idea of overbearing “light and love” who can’t stand up for what they believe in.
That is not our way. For us, the process of spirituality entails becoming more resilient, as a person must be brave and strong to turn away from the thralldom of society and its pitfalls, and our titles fully express that idea. Neither @Fire or myself are running around with bleeding hearts allowing ourselves to be run over or dominated by people. We consider ourselves warriors. We train Qigong, we train martial arts, we spend most of our day in deep self-reflection, monitoring our thoughts and emotions to transmute / redirect them to something of a more refined nature.
You’ve all seen the poll – it keeps coming back to a 50 / 50 split, or close to it. And since we’ve been kinda stereotyped, with @Fire creating the alpha titles, with me focusing on spiritual titles, we understand what the answers to the polls are telling us: there’s an equal amount of spiritual individuals here (who are most likely, a bit silent about it because they understand what we’re trying to achieve in regards to not allowing the forum to become another place for the Light-warriors of the Galactic Federation, IYKYK) as there are those who are pursuing material wealth.
And I’m not trying to be funny, just stating a fact: the majority of those individuals are the ones refusing to focus on us as individuals and focuses more on the effects of the products. They seem to very much understand that true power comes 100% from within and not the titles, not the producers, not the community, but themselves.
So, when we create spiritually themed titles, the goal is to help the user find themselves. Their true self, who is longing to express itself in their day to day lives. This does NOT equate to weakness – mentally, physically or spiritually, nor do our titles remotely push this idea.
RoM, RoS, RoD (for example) are all about exploring your inner life. And if within your journey through this inner life, you find that the glamours of the world no longer pique your interest, then in my opinion, it does not make you weak.
RoM, for example, is very much written to help you discover the inner workings of your own mind, to help you control your own thoughts, to understand the why’s and the how’s of why you think the way you think. Those who have actually used it can attest that the outcome is usually an inner resilience that cannot be defined in words or expressed easily. It’s just something that is.
And being very honest – whenever we see someone giving us too much praise or focus, the first thing we both think is: “Okay, what does this person REALLY want?” Fame is fleeting. Praise is fleeting. As soon as we no longer fit whatever ideal they’re projecting, they will completely pull a 360 and turn against us, and that is simply how society deals with those who they exalt.
And so, in the conversation for Fire vs. Saint, please continue to focus on what products you want to see. Give ideas, fan the flames of competition by posting your experiences. That is what will truly elevate this season to high levels. WIthout that, we might as well change Season 3 to something else which will help us create better products.
The product is the focus. The customer experiences are the focus. And it will remain that way.
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