Wow, was this a long read lol
Why do they hate it?
I donât see it as validation of spiritual practices, I see it as being academically responsible by using the scientific method to derive valid conclusions.
According to his biography on Amazon, he has a Doctor in Chiropractic. What I like about the book I posted is that he provided sources that I actually find and read for myself.
Second, we donât have a problem with new age ideas. Other than the fact that most of them are pilfered from various religions, with the parts they donât like removed.
What we have a problem with is people going to new age YouTube and suddenly becoming spiritual experts overnight, and then coming here accusing us of all kinds of nonsense that weâve never even heard about. Telling us that we should change all of our products to fit their interpretation of things.
Or worse, reading ancient mystery texts and now theyâre an expert in all things subliminals and all reality for that matter.
I have read them. I have understood them. Thatâs how I can confidently say that many of the major principles are not new â the reincarnation of the soul, the connection between your inner state and the outer experience , the access to subtle energy within the body with the potential to refine that energy into higher forms, and the notion that the nature of the universe of symbolic and thus, the position of the celestial bodies indicates the themes that will play out in your life and reality as a whole.
In other words, astrology. So my point remains: who has not heard of these concepts in some form or fashion, even if you donât believe it?
So, itâs not about needing to appear scientific, because science has its limits as well â itâs about keeping this focused on the art of creating safe and effective subliminal audio. Our titles are not built upon âsecrets of the universe,â but rather we consider practical observation linked with creative intuition. In other words, we are deconstructing patterns into their purest forms to get ideas.
For example, if auras are naturally generated by living beings and carry information that others pick up on (weâve all walked in a room and âfelt the vibeâ) then it stands to reason that the only thing we have to do is help the person intensely focus their thoughts and TADA, an aura is created.
No need to source energy. No need for mantras, or âastrological sign changing,â or mystery texts. We simply follow the path nature has already prescribed and thatâs why we are so confident in giving credit to you when reporting results. You are the zero point, there is nothing that you have done on a subliminal that you couldnât have done without it.
That is the absolute truth, without any embellishment. Yes, it may have taken longer and was possibly harder, but it was still possible.
Because certain spiritual groups use âscienceâ as a buzzword for selfish reasons. New Age groups, for example, have this tendency to take things out of their context and explain them through terms that came from another sphere of thought, like using âenergy vortexâ or âdimensional doorsâ to describe some phenomena in some tradition that focuses on self-cultivation. But of course, they take terms from Modern Physics and apply it willy-nilly to anything that strikes their fancy, without even studying either physics or the tradition theyâre incorporating into the package theyâre selling. So you can see why both scientists as well as traditional lineage-holders might raise their eyebrow when they hear of these things.
And unfortunately, there is hardly such a thing as objective science operating in some vacuum, with the sole mission to find Truth. As my professor in Anthropology said plainly, there are taboo topics which will cut your career short if you become associated with them. There are many good men and women at university, but just making one open-minded statement about a taboo topic can get them labelled as a pseudo-scientist on Wikipedia and elsewhere and that is just career suicide.
But how do you derive valid conclusions using a method built on premises that are contrary to the ones used in the tradition you are investigating? Basic problem in anthropology.
Michel Foucaultâs concept of the ĂŠpistĂŠmè already makes it clear that there are always a priori assumptions that drive each paradigm/age, which determine what is seen as possible and also what is acceptable in terms of proof. Thomas S. Kuhnâs The Structure of Scientific Revolutions is also good for putting things in perspective. Science is its own cultural product and consitutes a paradigm, whereas most of the older traditions that discuss things such as subtle energies or auras came from a different paradigm, which are naturally not compatible. The mistake most people make is that it does not mean that one paradigm supersedes the others, but unfortunately, there is often the implicit assumption that science has superseded all previous paradigms, which would mean that they all would have to justify their existence through scientific validation. And that is what you see happening around the world. For example, I did my work on Siddha Medicine and how it is currently practiced in Southern India, and they have unfortunately long ceased to continue on their original trajectory of research and experimentation, because the British outright banned it for the majority of their occupation there. Now they have been reduced to a state where theyâre mostly busy doing empirical studies on what parts of their tradition can be scientifically proven. Ironically, their efficiency at healing people used to be better before this modern process was initiated because they did not have to deal with patients that were born locally, but have grown up with a Western materialist mindset because of globalization. Needless to say, the Indian government, just like the Chinese one, operate within the modern scientific paradigm and are practically hostile towards their own cultural traditions, which only get attention in so far as they can be turned into a part of the tourist industry. But I digress.
You are doing great work here! I only mentioned this point about appearing scientific because people are so quick to label people so that they can easily dismiss them without proper investigation. And deconstructing patterns to derive a working principle is wellâŚwhat most people would associate with Science hehe.
Yes, I understand. We were essentially saying the same thing, Iâm just beholden to talking a neutral position due to the fact that we serve a global audience.
Yet due to internal limitations, old traumas, a âfaultyâ belief system, self-doubt, lack of focus I dare say that it wasnât really likely to ever âhappenâ if not for the immensely powerful tools that we got at our disposal. Therefore, Iâve assumed only one directive, which is also a prerogative:
You will do what you must, become what you must, or you will pay for your cowardice with mediocrity. Never Fear The Weakness in yourself, conquer it with boldness.
I would disagree a bit. I would say the problem is peopleâs inability to face their own shadow to even recognize that thereâs even a limitation. But the outcome is the same as your second quote â facing life with bravery, facing your own darkness and refusing to project that outward on others.
I believe that someones soul at least weighted the possibility of breaking through those if they end up here. No one comes across transformative tools like this âon accidentâ.
I know mine recognizes the freedom and power, true power in the concepts entailed in these programs. And also the massive potential of the participants here. It´s a forge of greatness.
I concur. Itâs why I get annoyed when people are claiming that recon is the âsoul responding negativelyâ to something. I would argue that if these concepts are even accurate, it is also possible that the âsoulâ is doing exactly what it needs right now to proceed. Individuals consciously exploring whatâs possible now to better integrate themselves wholly.
Itâs one of the reasons I am attempting to consciously embrace a path of non-acknowledgment. We are slowly, but surely transforming all motives for the various businesses we run away from material gain (unfortunately, we are still operating within a pure capitalistic system and thus, we need money) and more toward service.
And because of this, I will always champion the idea that subliminals can serve as the carpenterâs tools, but you are the carpenter, consciously reshaping your personal realities. Itâs why all of our scripting is positive, where âdominanceâ is being defined as an inner strength that radiates outward and people WANT to follow you because you are representing something that they want to incorporate into the self.
So someone to stay away from?
Whatâs the difference between limitations and self sabotage? Is it the same thing? How much of a personâs shadow is made up of this? Isnât trauma just environmentally imposed limitations? Iâm not playing down how serious trauma is. I am working through my own. Iâm just curious
I see self-sabotage as the outcome of an internal limitation.
Simple example: people who want to be entrepreneurs, but âhates marketing.â In todayâs age, it is almost impossible not to employ some form of marketing to survive, but you can base your marketing strategy on ethical principles. But, due to some internal belief linked to money (because thatâs one of the deep subconscious fears â âmarketersâ are trying to steal crystallized vital energy from you, in the form of money), they block themselves from even studying a very necessary process and as a result, have self-sabotaged their entrepreneurial aspirations.
Of course, this is not 100% in everyone, just an example to illustrate.
So true! Unproductive thought patterns and limiting beliefs, regardless of their original intention and regardless of how we inherited them, will stop our âgoodâ from running over into our lives, until we notice them and uproot them.
Or they call it manipulationâŚ
My frame: everything is manipulation. When you go to a cafe and order one, you âmanipulatedâ the barista.
It sounds bad, but everything depends on what you use it for.
And no, I do not mean that end justifies the means.
I totally agree. I was on a long way of personality development when I was lead to SC.
I absolutely believe that I would have gotten the same results without any subs.
But subs are a different tool than those that I already use. They work on a subconscious level and produce results I would have needed another outside source to reach them.
Nowadays I tend to use subs to change subconsciously and the rest of the tools to work on the topics Iâve found thanks to subs.
Itâs probably obvious but by that logic anything anyone wants to learn or become is just a matter of having the patience and drive to overcome whatever internal limitations a person has
Hey any idea if Dragon Reborn multistage, once upgraded, would warrant people who finished it to run it again, due to the upgrades?
Iâm at stage three and itâs working extremely well, but is it something that should be revisited once the upgrade is complete due to the new tech, new features etc?
I understand you may not have even started building it but it would help me plan my stack for later.
Thanks in advance
YES.
This is what weâve been saying, lol. Iâm not going to pretend that subliminals donât make things easier, but the core essence of what Zero Point does (and Iâve been trying to figure out how to explain this for the new instruction manual material) is help you focus an intense amount of thought and energy toward a specific goal. This is what we mean by, âyou canât lie to Zero Point.â The script is so focused on the self, that the issues that emerges are ones youâve already been dealing with, youâre just aware of them now.
So, a lot of the crap that you have to normally deal with, like doubt and the such, is dealt with so that you can focus on what you want to achieve.
And I donât know why people donât believe this. Weâd make a lot more cash and the such by simply accepting all the praise given to the product, but what actually makes the products work better is when the person is taking action. When they feel empowered, they take more action and get better results.
Iâve slways believed you all. I just get inpatient which is my own issue