SargeMaximus: The Trial (Primal Solo)

[friday]

@SargeMaximus

This here is concerning too. The question pre-supposes you have a problem with women and creates an inception that you do. This could be why my results end when I use the subs.

A better question would be “how come women are so attracted to you? What makes you better than other men for the women you desire?” you see the difference in pre-suppositions? One comes from a pre-existing problem the other comes from a pre-existing solution. Not to mention that the one quoted above CREATES a problem. It literally tells the user they have difficulty seducing women. Not empowering at all.

Open a support ticket about that.

Personally I think SaintSovereign just gave an example and the subs are far more more carefully written than we can imagine.

@SargeMaximus

Yes but now that these so called limiting beliefs are being eradicated my results with women stop cold? How does that make any sense?

You are in the process of working through these and experiencing reconciliation.

I already went into that above:

@friday

For example, when you imagine that the subs makes you question why you only attract 5s and 6s because you deserve much better, it seems natural that you begin to behave towards 5s and 6s differently, maybe even weird, for a period of time until you worked through that, right?

I am not sure this is 100% correct, but at least this give a very clear answer to your question. What are you not understanding?? Just read my post above again.

@SargeMaximus

SaintSovereign said these subs don’t change who you are. So what are YOU saying?

Subliminals are not changing your inner core. Even if I run Primal Seduction, I will never become Johnny Depp. If anything I will become more me, as the sub is not projecting their notion of what a primal man should be but works with my subconscious by asking questions, but this obviously will lead to a lot of changes.

@SargeMaximus

I already have a natural ability to seduce women (obvious by my success before) the key is to DOUBLE DOWN on what works, not try to re-invent the wheel.

In my opinion, one definitely needs to go through a lot of changes in his seduction style when one wants to attract higher quality girls. What works for 5s and 6s will not necessarily work with 9s/10s.

But in the end, it is not me but your own subconscious deciding that. I have run subs like Khan that does include the whole script of Mogul without me having any sort of interest in following wealth and never got a problem. You are just experiencing reconciliation currently in my opinion, which will subside and is only temporary.

[TheBoxingScientist]

Again i have no experience of online dating however when i use to do street approaches, approaches in venues, gyms shops etc. My approaches were a strong demonstration of my qualities which resulted in hot women wanting to meet up with me. The sheer confidence i showed was like a secret way of communicating to her and making her want to see me because she loved confident men.

However there were really hot women i met who respected my confidence, however i had a few characteristics that fell short of what they really wanted so I moved on. So it did boil down to a numbers game when meeting hot women.

So what i am saying is that it might just be that these hot girls your meeting online, feel that you fall short of a few qualities that they are looking for. Hence you getting ghosted…thats not a problem with you i think its just the way it is.

[SargeMaximus]

@friday

I am not sure this is 100% correct, but at least this give a very clear answer to your question. What are you not understanding?? Just read my post above again.

The issue is I’ve been messaging 7’s and up online. So maybe it takes a while before results? Because I’m not talking to 5/6’s.

@friday

If anything I will become more me,

Yes that’s what I want.

@friday

In my opinion, one definitely needs to go through a lot of changes in his seduction style when one wants to attract higher quality girls. What works for 5s and 6s will not necessarily work with 9s/10s.

I don’t know if that’s true. My style isn’t using techniques or “tricks” but being genuine and “myself” without compromise. If that doesn’t work then the only alternative is to NOT be myself and compromise which I don’t think is very alpha regardless.

@friday

You are just experiencing reconciliation currently in my opinion, which will subside and is only temporary.

I hope you’re right. Should I just take another washout then? Finishing my Primal loop atm.

@TheBoxingScientist

So what i am saying is that it might just be that these hot girls your meeting online, feel that you fall short of a few qualities that they are looking for. Hence you getting ghosted…thats not a problem with you i think its just the way it is.

And if the subs don’t fix that there’s no reason to use them. Because what you’re saying is I’m already at my peak and nothing can be done to improve.

[TheBoxingScientist]

With or without subs there are specific women who i will never beable to shag like those hot ones who love to have their own private tables at a night clubs. The kind of men who appeal to them are club promotors, DJs.

I aint got a chance in hell pulling super models as they probably only hangout with fashion promoters and those who organise auditions.

However i have a much better chance to pull hot women who have specific interests that are similar to mine.

[SargeMaximus]

Yeah I never said I expected to get every hot girl, or every girl regardless of her looks for that matter.

I do expect to get some hot girls tho or there’s no point

[TheBoxingScientist]

What other ways of meeting hot women do you feel comfortable with ?. To meet such women i feel you need to put yourself out there in everyway possible and not just online dating.

[SargeMaximus]

@TheBoxingScientist

What other ways of meeting hot women do you feel comfortable with ?. To meet such women i feel you need to put yourself out there in everyway possible and not just online dating.

I approached hundreds of women in the past. It doesn’t work. There are plenty of what I consider hot Women online. I have had sex with a few hot women from online dating in the past. It’s not impossible so surely a subliminal that works can work with that.

I go out regularly to do sales and errands. Plenty of opportunities for women to approach me. But I won’t approach as it’s a waste of time

[TheBoxingScientist]

Perhaps the founders ? the moderators can guide Sarge ? @RVconsultant ?. sorry if i am putting you on the spot. What can you suggest ?.

By the way everyone i know Sarge from a previous life in another subliminal forum. The staff and the founders were not really helpful to him there. I just want him to succeed with all my heart.

[SargeMaximus]

I have succeeded. I’m not a virgin anymore. I just want the next level. In my opinion that means doubling down on what works for me NOT changing into something new so find me a sub that does that

[TheBoxingScientist]

Yeah i know that bruv i am just saying i want you to score consistently with hot girls.

[SargeMaximus]

Appreciate that blackadder.

In other news, fall is coming. I always want to break out my pheromone: Wolf from LAL. It made a big imprint on me back when I used it many years ago and now whenever it is fall and there’s that slight chill and fall smell, I always think of Wolf and the vibe and it makes me feel more alive.

I want more of that. Seems like I’m on autopilot most of the time. My discovery curve in sales is over, I pretty much know exactly how to do it and what most people’s response will be, it makes the world a bit cardboard and boring tbh. If only to have some lively-feeling days. It doesn’t have to be crazy or chaotic, it can still be predictable, just give me that sense of wonder and adventure I had back when I first began subs and mones years ago.

Also want to get a fur coat, some viking/barbarian-looking thing for when it’s winter. Something to help me with my warrior edge and expression.

This sudden nostalgia and emotional spike could be that Primal tapped into something today. Not sure but I like it.

[Doc]

Maybe approaching which didnt work in the past
Will work in the near future because of the subs…

Maybe you try again to test it out if u want to

[TheBoxingScientist]

Doc is correct try approaching again I found that when pushing energy into physical activities I grew as a person. Challenge yourself !!!

[SargeMaximus]

I doubt it tbh.

[SargeMaximus]

Today I did something that feels like I have betrayed myself. It sounds super dark and dramatic but I’m sure most people have done this thing and most look down on people who DON’T do it but I feel like shit. Absolute dog shit. Like I lost a piece of myself today. I don’t understand what’s happening to me. I’m changing for sure and it’s hard to reconcile who I am with who I’m becoming and I don’t know why it’s so important for me to become this thing. It feels like selling out or like I said self-betrayal. Haven’t listened to my Primal loop today and don’t think I will as this is probably recon. Don’t know how I’ll recover though. Can barely look myself in the mirror. I also tried to do sales, couldn’t. No confidence, I feel like such a dirt bag rn.

[TheBoxingScientist]

Why not ? unless you roll the dice and try something new the sub wont work as well. The more ways you try to meet hot women the better chance you have of manifestating your ideal woman.

Gyms, bars, restaursnts, evening classes, street etc…

You only doing online dating is like those guys who only do cold approaching. For years they continue to cold apprach. Telling themselves their game is getting better but they never get laid and are stuck in a rut. When really they should be meeting women in every area of their lives.

I met my sexual partner in a week a cute blonde french girl. I was putting myself out there in everway possible.

Unless you maximise your chances of meeting hot women the sub wont work.

[SargeMaximus]

@TheBoxingScientist

Unless you maximise your chances of meeting hot women the sub wont work

Sounds to me like “unless you do everything the sub won’t work”

If a sub can’t get me results where I normally get results, it’s no good to me.

I normally do good doing nothing but online game. Guess I’m better than the sub eh?

[TheBoxingScientist]

Whats is very unique about the SC products is that action is required. The more actions you take the results multiply over time.

Other vendors make products that require no action but you experience very little inner growth.

[SargeMaximus]

@TheBoxingScientist

Whats is very unique about the SC products is that action is required. The more actions you take the results multiply over time.

Other vendors make products that require no action but you experience very little inner growth.

Clearly I’m talking to a wall here. I’ve taken lots of action , more than you i am quite sure. I live my life on my own terms because of the action I have taken. I know what I want and what I don’t want.

Im done with these subs. GLTA

[TheBoxingScientist]

I am trying to advise you on how to best use the sub to get results based on my personal experiences. Do whatever you want mate no point in me commenting any further in your journal. I wish you the best Sarge.