We are just having a discussion
What’s your definition of Spiritual elitism?
We are just having a discussion
What’s your definition of Spiritual elitism?
Anyway, back to business. The official Chosen From Within either late tonight or early tomorrow. We’ve made some incredible upgrades to it and we’re eager to see what everyone thinks. GMX remake based on RoM prototype soon after that.
Are you saying it is it’s own title now? Will there be new objectives and a breakdown of what’s changed?
It was always it’s own title, we just never got around to actually releasing the official version of it. We’ve rewritten it, updated it to ZP v2 and yes – it will include objectives and a breakdown of what’s been added.
Will you have to purchase it even if you have the experimental ?
Yes, the experimental was always considered a bonus since we didn’t charge for it. Now it’s a full fledged product. But, don’t rush and grab it if you plan on running RoS upon launch. Wouldn’t mix the two immediately.
Any thoughts on this @SaintSovereign ?
I feel like you’re the type of guy that would totally microdose. Have you done it?
I feel like my brain is just bogged down consistently and even with decent breaks between loops, I’m just below average in processing. Would dosing help? What else can one do to help with processing?
I’m only running 1 custom but thoughts of adding RoM comes and goes with people saying it helps cognition but I’d think getting it would only bog me down more.
I have not.
I take things like Shilajit and various supplements from Dragonherbs (TCM), but I don’t microdose any substances. I do have a dream of going to Brazil and trying Ayahuasca in an actual therapeutic setting.
As such, I can’t recommend microdosing with running subliminals (ours or anyone else’s for that matter), as I don’t see what the end goal would be. Your mind processes at the speed that’s most safe for you at that moment. I wouldn’t exactly try to tinker with those processes chemically.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.
Are ROM or ROS hard titles for relative newbies to run, with just a few months of subs up their belt?
At what point can you feel confident to venture into these waters?
Mind you, I am an explorer and love to experiment, sometimes to my own detriment
I don’t know about RoS but I suspect it isn’t a starter title. But RoM I am confident about and if you feel lost, unfocused and have your mind feeling like it’s full of trash, RoM is the perfect title for you.
It does more of course but even beginners will benefit from RoM.
Just want to also put in my vote of support here for seeing Ultimate Artist get the ZPv2 upgrade next. I’ve been enjoying the ZPv2 experience with RM and have a feeling UAv2 will be special as well
Then same can be applied for societal programming. But we dont choose environmental or societal programming. It just happens automatically. Though the individual chooses to accept the script but we still dont have any control. Bevause it is done subconsciously .
It confused me when saint stated that individual choose to execute the script. Suppose i want the seduction part of X subliminal but the subconscious isnt picking it up then what should we do consciously so that the subconscious executes the script ?
You may not choose whether to be societally programmed, but you do choose whether to execute the programming.
This is a major part of the point of mindfulness training.
It expands the range of choice (vis-à-vis both programming and execution).
The receiving of the ideas is what we call ‘programming’.
The expression of the ideas is what we call ‘execution’.
Execution is ‘Action’.
Saint mentioned epigenetics up above. That’s a case in point.
Within your body’s storehouse of genetic information are billions of potential developments. (For example, if you eat only beans for 2 years, X will happen. If you train marathons for 9 months, Y will happen. If you reside in a sub-arctic climate, Z will happen. And so on.)
Most of those potential developments will never be expressed. You may never eat beans for 2 years. You may never train marathons.
In this case, the potential programming remains as only potential. To execute that genetic programming, you must perform (or engage with) the factors that activate it.
This is the meaning of epigenetics. And it’s also one of the differences between Genotype (the underlying genetic information contained in your cells) and Phenotype (the much smaller subset within that information that is actually expressed in your body’s appearance and functioning).
Which is part of the reason why Action is the 3rd element in a 3 variable equation of (subliminals + action + journaling).
When you take the action of going up to a woman, the seduction subliminal executes the part of the script that helps you flirt. The sub is also working behind the scenes before you approach her to improve your seductive aura and highlight various attractive parts of yourself to women who otherwise wouldn’t notice it.
The subliminal is only helping your subconcious to make you better. Nothing new is being made by the subliminal. It is an aid in your own act of creation.
EDIT: choosing therefore in our scenario is choosing to run subliminals, choosing to act and choosing to journal.
When i used to do vipassana meditation ,i could feel everything in control. I mean i could choose between laying down or go for work but later on my habit of doing meditation subsided and i no longer indulge in vipassana. doing meditation will make me execute the program more effectively ? Bevause while using limitless i witnessed if i sit down and dont do any mental work ,it might recon me or i will experience absence of result but when i start reading or playing a mind/strategy based game it feels like the script is executing and my cognitive abilities boost .
Maybe maybe to make the subconscious accept the script we must take some approach and create some kind of need for the subconscious to accept the script ? Correct me if i am going in wrong direction @Malkuth
I see. This explains well. But IMO taking action (ineffective or effective) creates a need subconsciously to achieve a goal. So that time subconscious takes that part of the script and act on it to destroy that need ?
Mindfulness meditation is not required. I just offered it as an example.
What is required is Intent.
And mindfulness can, for some people, be a helpful way to clarify and refine Intent.
It’s as simple as making a choice. Choice is the expression of Intent.
‘There’s my friend, Rachel. I’m going to go ask her how her weekend was. I think she had a family gathering.’
Voilà.
You’ve generated an intention.
Now, if you’re playing a relevant subliminal. Let’s say, Love Bomb for Humanity. It will be expressed and will amplify the care and interest that you’re expressing to your friend. She may feel more love from you in that moment.
Programming: Love Bomb for Humanity. (as well as all of your past experiences and ideas about friendship)
Execution: Your intent to show care and interest to your friend.
It’s that simple.
There is Conscious Choice, and
There is Subconscious Choice.
There is no reason for the Conscious Mind to invest energy in re-deciding what’s already decided.
If the Subconscious finds the Script to be in agreement with what’s already decided / agreed / permitted, it can execute that part without much guidance.
Reconciling is the part where agreements are yet to be made.