you guys run subs for 30 sec only??? very interesting technology
@AlexanderGraves, I get pressures in the Third Eye, parts of the brain, and like not headaches but parts of the brain that appear not to get oxygen and it always goes hand in hand with a nostril which gets clogged, it does not allow air to pass through.
Weird symptoms, I know , lol.
I also get a lot of processing in the brain, and like a pressure in the middle of the brain which is probably from the pineal gland.
That’s my issue for the most part like signs of overexposure where my brain gets literally fried out of nowhere.
Very true, recon isn’t a bad thing. It helps a lot!
You really didn’t answer my post at all 
And if it keeps being overexposure as you say, then keep reducing listening time until you can bear it, and stick to Major titles for now, before you go into customs.
Or make a custom with just modules, this might be lighter than some Majors.
Go with light and basic majors for now.
So many possibilities to solve it 
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There is absolutely reconciliation in there as well.
I probably won’t be making Customs anymore.
I will pursue the store programs if anything at far lower amounts.
But this is my main issue.
Horrible overexposure even at low amounts of listening.
And I do not get the same effects as compared to listening frequently because the auras wane and fade, and the manifestations mostly occur when I listen to a program.
For example listening to Wanted would connect me to a girl, and then each time I’d listen that connection would be replenished and she’d text me out of “nowhere”.
Listening once a two weeks or a week would have that effect only as frequent as the listening.
I’ve noted in my journal that listening to 30 seconds per day of limitless executive has given me ultimate consistency.
I, too, suffer from overexposure, but 30 seconds per day has gone over like a breeze, I get consistent results, I’m the most productive I’ve ever been without any recon.
Even, when I listen to 3 mins of limitless executive, I need to do it the night before to get a productivity boost, because otherwise if I don’t sleep to process the subliminal I’m stuck in recon, not productivity.
But with 30s a day I can listen to it in the morning before my day starts with no issue.
I even had an EXTREMELY VIVID, even philosophically prophetic dream, which I shared in my journal, so obvious the sub is working, it’s not like my subconscious isn’t taking note of the program.
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@Houdini, my situation is soooo similar to you.
Like real. I usually get A LOT of recon, if I expose myself to what OFFICIALS guidelines said. It has been months since I listened to a full in an OVERALL listening session.
The fact that your friend and brother manifested results, fascinates me so much. Cuz I am really facing this problem now. Results are inconsistent and not as good as the first few days. Also recon makes me tired and stuff. I also definitely attest the fact that auras fade when processing and execution starts. And they activate again.
Question: when your brother and friend stopped listening and the results manifested, how permanent were they really?
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About the permanence it is as if a life changing event has happened to ones life, one that has shaped him or her and none or nothing can take that away?
It has now become part of them.
So for my brother his become the popular, innovative business men, who runs a company and has also gained that Genius a Stark would be famous for.
I think ones that believe is deeply settled and rooted in ones mind it just manifests naturally…
But what I saw was active processing and execution on the goals of the scripts for several months after, with her and there the energetic effects resurfacing, the auras and all of that.
My brother listened to just Stark Terminus so it is a little bit different.
That girl, Renaissance Man and well she has extreme expression, verbal fluency, writes like an artist, is deeply connected to her emotions, it’s strange but she has become the Renaissance Man.
But while before she had much reconciliation and her writing consisted on a lot of self-reflection regarding freedom of expression, creativity, her dreams and her faith towards those dreams — all of that reconciliation has vanished and now what is left is just her becoming of the Renaissance Man.
I’m sure the processing has long ended now but it has surely deeply shaped her! And her mind because she still gets numerous manifestations, etc which she never had before, let alone her connection to life.
@Alphamale I think if you’d try an easier title perhaps you can do the full loops?
You are young too right? Younger people have less memories to reconcile, are more suggestible, as we get older we become shaped and our mind restricted from our past.
But I’m sure there are other factors who play here too.
@Billions I get a lot of dreams too, I dream very vividly every night.
I’m doing a washout to see how long this dreams last and to see how long the scripts affect me.
My Custom is still noticeable, far less then as I was running it, I must admit. But a lot of it has remained permanent, ESPECIALLY, within interactions of those who have been around me when I was running it.
Those specific people subconsciously see me as this person and help me to create this persona too.
But it works less with people who already have a prejudiced notion of who you are.
Here is what @Trader notices when he mentioned that seduction programs have less of an effect on his wife.
Because his wife has a big subconscious recollection of him as a person. He will need something like Tyrant, or another module to help with it.
With new people there is “first impression” from the others persons Mind you are a blank and that can easily be programmed and shaped, whereas with those we have lots of memories with it takes more time, a stronger will, etc
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Thank you, I think I’m gonna try 30 sec loops as @Billions did until I reach a financial situation where I could afford some recon.
So the results are permanent
@Alphamale what are you even running?
I just realised this is Saints journal lets take this conversation somewhere else it’s becoming a total mess in here.
Tag me in your conversation open a journal or use one under your name.
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Khan ST1+True sell+RICH
Considering switching to Ascended Mogul from Khan. Realized money is kinda everything.
Sadly @AlexanderGraves this is more due to the fact @Houdini is combining multiple modalities and companies - regular advice doesn’t apply here and is equal to zero, as we do not have the full picture.
Would limiting exposure help? Perhaps.
But not as much as stopping haphazard and chaotic mixing.
No, your situation is not. You aren’t mixing modalities. For you it’s enough to modulate your usage - lower exposure, take action.
This is what @SaintSovereign and I talk about, @Houdini.
This is why we keep warning you, why you got suspended before for a long time, and why we rarely consider your input/feedback seriously.
Unreliable and chaotic data - that can even cause harm to others.
You keep repeating your beliefs that it is our technology that is causing you extreme reconciliation, but never mention all the other things you are kitchen sink-ing at yourself. Then comes in @Alphamale and without the finer details believes you, potentially leading to harming himself.
Stop it - I expect I won’t have to state this again.
This is also another reason. You are running Khan ST1, Total Breakdown. It has warnings for a reason.
It is breaking down all limits and beliefs that do not help you. It’s not an easy thing - especially when you stack it.
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I feel you.
I know you guys don’t support amors comments and I also did not like most of them because his words can also have another kind of effect on the company’s reputation. Even the fact that one of his friends listened to (I guess) one loop of WANTED and his whole world changed.
I won’t say that is true or false, and I won’t like it.
Regarding my recon.
I took very very long rest days. And 2 days ago I cried the hell out of myself for just looking at a poor woman selling sth(compassion) but I realized she was just a trigger. I never cried like that. That was definitely Total breakdown.
But please have this mind, I never listened to more than 3 minutes and with LONG rest days, what am I supposed to do? Don’t talk about my reconciliation? I stress on the fact that my situation is very very similar to what amor WROTE, I don’t know if he is telling the truth or not and I could not care less; I just know; THAT is my situation. And if you see me as a troll, good luck.
You can’t imagine how grateful I am for SC overall. I got independent from my dictator, narcissistic and controlling father, slept on the dangerous streets, found a job, got myself fired(because of INTENSE discrimination) and started a business. And now I am starting to thrive.
I am a 100% ok with listening to 30 sec loops. But does it give us profound results? Does it create deep change in us?
First I was the one overexposing myself, and now the one who is frustrated with the power of the subs.
Anyways. Thank you.
The only concern is the fact if the 30 sec loops will create profound changes or not and if they’ll plain the ground for FUTURE 1 min loops and exposure increase.
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If 3 minutes is what is right for you at the moment, on the current stack, then that is what is right for you.
Why are you doubting your own experience now?
For sure it does - why wouldn’t it? It’s like taking a smaller bite of food. Just because it’s smaller, doesn’t mean the caloric intake suddenly disappears.
There is a point where you’d be taking in too little to cause change, but this isn’t a problem anyone here at SC has to worry about due to the way our technology works.
Simply put, as long as you are on that edge/just before of being “too much”, and increasing as you see your ability to process improve and the edge moves forward, you have nothing to worry about.
Again, yes, you’re still improving and your ability to process naturally improves as you continue. It’s inevitable.
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Thank you so much, I think my recklessness in my answer to amor led to a very very useful post from you.
It’s so promising when FIRE tells you yes!, 30 sec will reconcile your beliefs in a more smooth and lower pace+you will be productive+your capacity for reconciling more beliefs (related to that specific sub) will be increased to the point where you could increase the exposure overtime.
I’d like to page @Billions here to give him assurance.
About my doubt, I found the 3 min schedule a bit too much (on the fatigue and recon in forms of anxiety anger…parts), and also the recon seemed like it won’t fade. It’d fade for 2 hours, then starts. Sometimes intense and sometimes mild.
Please have a look at my schedule, my last washout was 15/16 days long I guess, but I was still feeling recon. That is why I said my experience is like what amor wrote.
@Alphamale, can you please attempt to summarize, in your own words, the guidelines and recommended listening patterns, as best as you understand them, to the exact detail of the official recommendations?
Before commenting, I want to get a sense of exactly what you believe to be the accepted, standard listening practices to be.
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t’is best to take it to a different thread. This is Saint’s journal after all.
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The latest OFFICIAL pdf released
And are you following those recommendations? all of them?