Overtime do dense subs become less to process for ur subconscious?

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#1

Overtime do dense subs become less to process for ur subconscious?

what i mean is if u play a dense multistage along others they can be too much for u?

In the middle of next year i will be doing DR. i also want to do QL but i will not do them together. im hoping if i finish DR and stay on stage 4 overtime it wont be too much for my subconscious to add QL multistage and then run both.

its also a conceptual understanding i want to know that is not just specific to my current plan(plans change)

does the density(not exactly sure wat density means) of the sub become less work for u over time so u can keep the same heavy sub and then add another later on?
if u start out with a stack of subs together that would be overexposure its too much but if u pace it then eventually can u add the sub or subs to ur stack and not be overexposed and it works?

i know the subs never stop working but i assume when they are first run its more taxing for ur subconscious to process and eventually it adapts and u can handle more? is this true?

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#2

I wouldn’t necessarily say they’d become less dense. They’d still be dense but if you did them for a prolong period of time then you’d begin to adapt to the programming. That doesn’t mean you could add more programming to the mix by adding QL into it. You’d adapt to the current sub you’re using but it may take a while. A long while on dense subs like multistagers.

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#3

ya ive been thinking about long term possible plans and goals. sometimes it goes up to 2-3 years ahead of time.

it keeps changing but QL & DR is alway there. id like/ i might to run 2 custom for both together after a couple years.

deep healing and superbrain

#4

I mean, like I said you’ll most likely end up adapting to the programming. It really depends. 2-3 years sounds like a great amount of time, you just may be waiting a while for results compared to others who may use one dense program along with lighter ones.

SubClub does not mind experimentation as long as you put your hands up and say ‘I f’d up’ if it doesn’t go to plan.

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#5

This is a good plan. Run through all stages of DR and then start QL.

You will find it easier if you pace your listening. When you finish all stages of DR, you embody DR. After which you go through all stages of QL along with DR ST4 and end up embodying DR + QL.

It will remove the challenge of wrestling with 2 programs at the same time, will save you energy and also help you focus on each multistage one at a time.

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#6

:+1: .

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#7

I’ll say a definite ‘yes’.

This is what happens with every program.

As @Brandon said, you’ll adapt over time.

Metaphor:

You buy a pair of special sneakers that add more bounce and power to your foot strikes. They enable you to run faster, jump higher, etc.

Only thing is, the sneakers weigh 8 pounds.

That’s about 8 or 9 times what the average running shoe weighs. So these special sneakers are ‘denser’ than the average sneaker.

There will be an adaptation period for the first 3 months to a year. You’ll feel tired after working out while wearing these special sneakers, simply because of how heavy they are. To avoid strain and burnout, you’ll space out your workouts enough to allow recovery.

But gradually as you continue to use them, the tiredness will decrease. Your musculature will grow, strengthen, and increase. Eventually, it will feel comfortable to wear these special sneakers.

At the same time, you’ll have been getting the special boosting effects of these sneakers from the very first workout. Your jumping will be higher and your running faster (even before you have adapted).

THEN


Once your muscles have adapted to the point that these sneakers are actually comfortable, then you’ll really be able to push the envelope of what they can do. You’ll be able to not just run faster, but also run faster for much longer periods of time because you’ll no longer be limited by that tiredness from the weight of the shoe. Same for jumping. You’ll still get tired, but your tiredness will be the result of your workout effort and not just a result of the weight of the sneakers.

So, yes:

  1. You can adapt over time to the density of a powerful program

and also

  1. Even after you’ve adapted, that program can continue to ‘be the gift that keeps on giving’ for as long as you’re willing to work with it and to push yourself.

Just like that special pair of sneakers.

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#8

yeah probably, I noticed this with some subs lol

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#9

Compare it to learning a foreign language. You move to a country and you don’t know the language. For a few months, you’ll be overwhelmed. But a some point your brain will start understanding the language. After a few years, you’ll be pretty close to being fluent. If you stay long enough in the country, you’ll start even thinking in that language no matter how difficult or dense the language was in the beginning.

A washout is if you leave that country for a few months. Surprisingly, taking a break from a language, helps your brain integrate it further.

Regardless of how difficult a language seems, with practice it always become easier overtime. I guess subs work the same.

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Finding the perfect stack vs staying consistent
#10

The idea that a sub would become less to process the more you use it implies that there is a final destination – an end – to your journey. Is there? I don’t know.

Should we perhaps hope that the answer is “no”? As such, the subs would not become “less” per se to process over time, just reach more and more subtle realms of effect and change – and grow WITH you. Subtle does not equal less.

If a sub becomes less to process over time, it will inevitably reach a point where it is no longer effective. I hope that’s not the case. Do you?

Interesting thing to ponder for sure!

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#11

Exactly.

And once you can speak the language fluently, it becomes more useful; not less useful.

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#12

Not necessarily, just because something becomes easier doesn’t mean it has an end. If I start going to the gym, I get stronger, but it does not mean that my strength is finite.

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#13

Easier is not the same as “less”.

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#14

In this case, your mental capacity and receptivity to the subs expands, akin to a muscle growing stronger. Thus, overtime, a sub uses a lower percentage of your memory to process. The actual volume stays similar, but it gets indexed in such a way to be treated more efficiently and the total storage space expands along with it. Thus ‘less’ power is used.

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#15

Hmm, how can you be so sure?

#16

It’s pretty much the same for everything in life. The more you get used to something, the less energy you need to do it. It’s similar to the example I gave about languages. The more you become fluent in a foreign language, the less mental bandwidth you need to deploy when you’re speaking it.

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#17

That implies that the stimulus does not increase in power with you.

If it increases in power with you, then you need the same amount of energy to process it.

This is my point: the subliminals, hopefully, grow with you so that they are always consistent in the degree of stimulation.

The same amount of energy is then needed, but it is more subtle – it is in a more subtle domain of change, which does not equal less in volume or amplitude, just “less” in how much you notice it (subtler).

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#18

Depends which metrics you use to define ‘power’ and ‘energy’.

The subs and the subliminal listening experience are complex and multifaceted.

If we’re going by Recon and disruptive symptoms and effects of processing, those are probably (hopefully) going to decrease over time.

If we’re going by capacity to direct or inspire change, that does not have to decrease over time.

I like to imagine it like this:

Imagine receiving a message that says: ‘move 5 kilometers beyond your current location’.

At what point would that message ‘run out’ and cease inspiring movement?

I’d say ‘never’. I can always go 5 more kilometers beyond my current location.

I may not choose to do so. But that does not mean that the message somehow ‘lost its power’.

On the other hand, to piggyback off of @ksub ‘s linguistic metaphor:

Imagine that I read no Chinese and I get the message:

çčŒçșŒć‰é€Čäș”ć…Źé‡Œ

(Continue to advance 5 kilometers)

At first, it may be challenging for me to process that message. In the beginning, I have to do extra work to translate it into actionable, practical terms.

But once I’m able to process it more easily, it will still be an evergreen message that won’t lose power no matter how many times I repeat it.

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#19

Similarly, when I was training martial arts, as a beginner it took me an insane amount of time and energy to get the basic moves right. I would sweat profusely. I did even get hurt trying to do the techniques. Once my brain integrated those moves, though, I was able to execute them automatically without even thinking about it. I stopped training over a decade ago but I’m still capable of executing those moves easily without breaking a sweat. They’re second nature. I guess that’s what happens when you run a sub for so long that it become a part of you and reconciliation is almost non existent. The sub is still just as dense but your capacity to process became much larger.

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