Thank you, I think I’m gonna try 30 sec loops as @Billions did until I reach a financial situation where I could afford some recon.
So the results are permanent
@Alphamale what are you even running?
I just realised this is Saints journal lets take this conversation somewhere else it’s becoming a total mess in here.
Tag me in your conversation open a journal or use one under your name.
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Khan ST1+True sell+RICH
Considering switching to Ascended Mogul from Khan. Realized money is kinda everything.
Sadly @AlexanderGraves this is more due to the fact @Houdini is combining multiple modalities and companies - regular advice doesn’t apply here and is equal to zero, as we do not have the full picture.
Would limiting exposure help? Perhaps.
But not as much as stopping haphazard and chaotic mixing.
No, your situation is not. You aren’t mixing modalities. For you it’s enough to modulate your usage - lower exposure, take action.
This is what @SaintSovereign and I talk about, @Houdini.
This is why we keep warning you, why you got suspended before for a long time, and why we rarely consider your input/feedback seriously.
Unreliable and chaotic data - that can even cause harm to others.
You keep repeating your beliefs that it is our technology that is causing you extreme reconciliation, but never mention all the other things you are kitchen sink-ing at yourself. Then comes in @Alphamale and without the finer details believes you, potentially leading to harming himself.
Stop it - I expect I won’t have to state this again.
This is also another reason. You are running Khan ST1, Total Breakdown. It has warnings for a reason.
It is breaking down all limits and beliefs that do not help you. It’s not an easy thing - especially when you stack it.
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I feel you.
I know you guys don’t support amors comments and I also did not like most of them because his words can also have another kind of effect on the company’s reputation. Even the fact that one of his friends listened to (I guess) one loop of WANTED and his whole world changed.
I won’t say that is true or false, and I won’t like it.
Regarding my recon.
I took very very long rest days. And 2 days ago I cried the hell out of myself for just looking at a poor woman selling sth(compassion) but I realized she was just a trigger. I never cried like that. That was definitely Total breakdown.
But please have this mind, I never listened to more than 3 minutes and with LONG rest days, what am I supposed to do? Don’t talk about my reconciliation? I stress on the fact that my situation is very very similar to what amor WROTE, I don’t know if he is telling the truth or not and I could not care less; I just know; THAT is my situation. And if you see me as a troll, good luck.
You can’t imagine how grateful I am for SC overall. I got independent from my dictator, narcissistic and controlling father, slept on the dangerous streets, found a job, got myself fired(because of INTENSE discrimination) and started a business. And now I am starting to thrive.
I am a 100% ok with listening to 30 sec loops. But does it give us profound results? Does it create deep change in us?
First I was the one overexposing myself, and now the one who is frustrated with the power of the subs.
Anyways. Thank you.
The only concern is the fact if the 30 sec loops will create profound changes or not and if they’ll plain the ground for FUTURE 1 min loops and exposure increase.
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If 3 minutes is what is right for you at the moment, on the current stack, then that is what is right for you.
Why are you doubting your own experience now?
For sure it does - why wouldn’t it? It’s like taking a smaller bite of food. Just because it’s smaller, doesn’t mean the caloric intake suddenly disappears.
There is a point where you’d be taking in too little to cause change, but this isn’t a problem anyone here at SC has to worry about due to the way our technology works.
Simply put, as long as you are on that edge/just before of being “too much”, and increasing as you see your ability to process improve and the edge moves forward, you have nothing to worry about.
Again, yes, you’re still improving and your ability to process naturally improves as you continue. It’s inevitable.
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Thank you so much, I think my recklessness in my answer to amor led to a very very useful post from you.
It’s so promising when FIRE tells you yes!, 30 sec will reconcile your beliefs in a more smooth and lower pace+you will be productive+your capacity for reconciling more beliefs (related to that specific sub) will be increased to the point where you could increase the exposure overtime.
I’d like to page @Billions here to give him assurance.
About my doubt, I found the 3 min schedule a bit too much (on the fatigue and recon in forms of anxiety anger…parts), and also the recon seemed like it won’t fade. It’d fade for 2 hours, then starts. Sometimes intense and sometimes mild.
Please have a look at my schedule, my last washout was 15/16 days long I guess, but I was still feeling recon. That is why I said my experience is like what amor wrote.
@Alphamale, can you please attempt to summarize, in your own words, the guidelines and recommended listening patterns, as best as you understand them, to the exact detail of the official recommendations?
Before commenting, I want to get a sense of exactly what you believe to be the accepted, standard listening practices to be.
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t’is best to take it to a different thread. This is Saint’s journal after all.
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The latest OFFICIAL pdf released
And are you following those recommendations? all of them?
Much less exposure than that
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Hey everyone. @Trader is right about going to another thread with the above discussion. Please do so.
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Already created a new thread earlier last night, thanks guys 
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30s. Microloops are incredible. Works well with Zero Point.
I’ve been testing a new version of ZP that’s designed to create slower by steady results (still profound) and 30s - 1min is perfect.
No disrespect, but she needed a qualified mental health practitioner before running subliminals. Renaissance Man isn’t even a dense title.
I’ve tried to tell him this multiple times. Even I had to change the types of programs I ran. Once I did, results skyrocketed. I don’t need alpha, money or sex subs any more. They generate tons of recon and aggression for me. I’m balancing myself out via my current stack (which has changed, will update later).
This is why I tell everyone that you can’t lie to Zero Point.
Try it. 
You study the Mysteries. That means you’re going to have INCREDIBLE flow factor, because that comes with the nature of studying the Mysteries. You know what the solution is?
LESS. EXPOSURE. 
The issue you’re having is not an issue that most people will have. You know this.
30s microloops.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Hell yes Can confirm. Will confirm. Do confirm.
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Yes. I wouldn’t recommend it if it didn’t work. It may become the new way we introduce people to our titles. That being said, we do need more data. With the major titles, I am convinced that a listener is processing the entire script. I’m a bit less confident with customs, so I’m testing a new stack of titles myself. So far, the results have been beyond profound. It’s hard to explain. Everything just feels so much smoother.
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Emperor Black will come with a new prototype version of ZP. Thinking of dropping the experimental with original Emperor and possibly another one. This version isn’t quite an “upgrade” yet. It has a different scope. Slower, yet steadier and more consistent results.
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I will gladly sign on the line that is dotted to test out Emperor.
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The only issue I see with this is when you market it, it might end up getting compared to 30 seconds subs from YouTube, and the response from potential new customers might not be as good, simply because it might look to them like they’re paying more than 1$ for each second of the sub.
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