Are there those who listened to all the subs and modules? How much have you changed in your life? Thanks for understanding)
Since you should listen to subs a sub for at least 3 months to get some serious results and can only stack 3 subs, that would limit the possible number of subs to 12 per year.
With customs this doesnāt change much because you need much more time to process all the content.
Considering the sheer number of subs (almost 80 regular ones plus 8 4-Stagers; that alone would take you about 6 years) and modules (around 350, so at least 19 customs, so another 2-4 years), Iād think itās highly unlikely, considering the age of SC. And these 8-10 years do not contain any time for washout.
Is it possible? Yes, with constant sub hopping.
Disregarding the fact that DRR and DRG canāt be completed both since theyāre pretty new.
Is it likely that anyone did actually accomplish it?
No.
And why would anyone aim for that?
Change doesnāt come from constant switching between Alchemist, WB, EmpF, etc but from consistency.
Look at @Malkuth for example. He has 16 modules in his customs, he listened to for 2 years straight. This consistency plus massive goal oriented action is bringing forth change.
Yet, thereās a phenomenon called āthe trailer effectā one can get listening to a sub once only. I get that effect every single time. It gives you a pretaste of what the sub offers at its core.
No, I havenāt tried all the subs but I think Iāve run around 75% of all the main titles.
@joker why did you ask?
- I am a beginner, observing how someone elseās subconscious works. 2. Curious, interesting comparison.
Its not about trying them all. You pick something and run for as long as you feel like it. The longer the greater growth in that aspect of life. The shorter, the less you gain out of it. If someone listens to a sub for a week and then moves to another one, it doesnt matter he listened to over 300 subs. He is a mess compared to those who take their time and hav e a clear focus. Time and focus are the key words.
Not necessary as the growth is never linear or static, sometimes itās a good idea to switch to some other sub to work on particular āobjectivesā in order to smooth out your progress, and later on go back to the previous sub or just go for something else, depending on the direction youāre heading to.
We just want to avoid āsub-hoppingā caused by recon or whims.
Itās a valid point yet thereās an advantage to it, that is getting a feel of lots of subs that may aid the decision-making.
No questioning here.
You canāt get insights into it, only read peopleās experiences, perceptions and insights on their subliminal usage.
The very same sub may affect two different people in a very different way. The best way to get proficient in the Art of Mental Alchemy (subliminal usage) is to experiment yourself. Yet, I would advise every beginner to start with Genesis to get familiar with subliminal usage and get insights on what to run next.
If you can feel them, ok.
Sometimes I feel them, sometimes I donāt.
But that doesnāt mean, that the ones I donāt arenāt working deeply.
Thatās correct. However, by getting a feel I meant results youāre getting as well, but yes, you need to be attentive enough and display a certain level of self-awareness and self-introspection in order to be really good at the Art. Those qualities get developed with time, while using and working with subs.
I donāt feel them at all.
I consider developing my mind one of the core activities in reaching my long term goals. Business goals included.
I donāt mind spending hours in introspection and concentrating on what happens between my ears.
Some of us just do not feel the subs.
I believe that weāre talking about two different things.
I was talking about getting a feel of subs not about feeling them.
Feeling them doesnāt matter at all.
Nope⦠Doesnāt happen to me.
Iām running the subs on āblind faithā.
I do get more thirsty and I do get vivid dreams. But thatās it. I do know that Iām in a tiny minority here.
Iāve read how you work with the subs. Thereās huge value in it. Just might not work the same for everyone.
What Iām saying is that the subs can work even if you are not able to feel or get the feel of them.
Iāve gotten great results from them, including crazy manifestations.
A Perspective
What we are doing here is not āListening To Subliminalsā.
What we are doing is choosing our pathways of development in our lives and then growing along those pathways.
The subliminals are fuel to support and strengthen Your Growth. And they are vehicles that can carry you more stably and efficiently along your pathways of growth.
An Example
Rome is 1400 kilometers from Paris. That distance stays the same. Whether you walk, drive, ride a train, a horse, or an airplane, the distance will still be 1400 kilometers.
If you are travelling to Rome from Paris, and you jump into a high-speed helicopter, and quickly fly 1100 kilometers, and then get out of the helicopter; you will not be in Rome.
āWhat?! How can I not be in Rome?! I just used a high-speed helicopter! Those can take you anywhere quickly!ā
Yes, you are absolutely correct. High-speed vehicles can carry you anywhere quickly. But you still have to ride them all the way to your destination.
The Principle:
Use the subs.
Set your courses and your destinations in your life, and then let the subliminals help to carry you there faster.
Youāre not supposed to be carrying them and letting them tell you where to go.
Get my point?
No questioning of that.
I just stated that testing out lots of subs has its value due to getting a feel of them, and that can help choose the right subs. However, that value is not universal as some people, as yourself, donāt get any feel of them, yet, as you mentioned, they can still benefit from subliminal usage tremendously.
Yes.
You seem to be talking about how, over time, we can develop an understanding or a sense of how the programs serve to bring about change; whether or not that understanding happens to include subjectively-experienced visceral sensations associated with the programs.
Oneās understanding or oneās āfeelā of the subliminals process might just be based on observing the changes and results that are arising in oneās circumstances.
Iām similar to @Hoppa in that I donāt experience a huge amount of dramatic sensations associated with my listening sessions. Like him, that detail does not matter very much to me. I donāt āfeelā many of my brain changes, in that direct sense. But my brain is clearly working since Iām walking around functioning. So, I try not to get stuck on that point. Nonetheless, I can get a āfeelā (as in āa subjective impression or overall senseā) for how change and growth appear to be operating in my world.
I just usually want to bring out the other point of view when these things come up.
We donāt know who will read these threads. I donāt want anyone like me to get discouraged because the āmain streamā narrative doesnāt fit their experience.
Iāve come to regard my condition as a blessing.
I donāt get recon either.
But the main advantage is that I do not overthink the subs.
As an INTP Iām a prime candidate to be a chronic sub hopper.
Itās like my subconscious is protecting me from that.
Yes, thatās right. However, more importantly, it gives me a feel for how and to what point Iām aligned with the changes that are suggested to my subconscious mind (that is the scripting). That helps me work with subs without being constrained by predefined time frames or strictly sticking to the objectives or even the results themselves. Itās mostly a self-discovery process where my Zero Point (who I truly am and what Iām truly capable of) is being revealed to me gradually and I can choose the scripting I deem the most aligned with my Zero Point more proficiently.
Going through lots of subs helped me find those I āclicked withā the most, and that says a lot about my Zero Point.
BTW; Iāve clicked the most with EB and WB. Nice combo indeed lol
I donāt want to create a new topic, Iāll ask the question here.
Which sub or module will help me get rid of the habit of comparing myself to other people? By type I am worse than that person / I am better than that person
thank you for sharing your opinion!
Ascension and Phoenix, mate.
I heard love bomb as a suggestion in similar thread not so long ago