Question: Believe the thoughts you think v/s Don’t believe a thought you think?
Your thoughts?
We do know the power of belief. Without which, Subliminals wouldn’t work.
Context for Don’t believe a thought you think: https://youtu.be/YUPucx1cIII?feature=shared
Even this is a question on belief… 
Belief is not just a mental concept—it’s a creative force. It influences what we see, what we attempt, how we persist, and ultimately what we become. Whether it’s belief in ourselves, others, or an idea, it acts as the foundation upon which transformation is built.
The power of belief is a profound and transformative force that shapes human perception, behavior, and potential. At its core, belief is the mental acceptance of a condition as true, even without definitive proof.
Believe the thoughts you think means to encourage trust in your own mind, inner wisdom, and intuition.
Don’t believe a thought you think suggests mental detachment — recognizing that not all thoughts are true or helpful.
Well taking my own experienced with the wealth titles, I had a lot of fear with taking some risks that when a certain idea pops in my mind immediately the second thought would pull me back into my comfort zone - “don’t do it” But I keep on listening to the point where I just do the tasks necessary to get things done - which is crucial to earned money or to get rich.
For example, I’m very reluctant to take out a loan to buy property. The idea of investing in things like rental trucks, vending machines, or leasing small spaces doesn’t appeal to me. I believe these subliminal titles—the ‘scripts’—are often designed to bypass our conscious reasoning and go straight to the subconscious. They’re framed in a way that discourages critical thinking, so we don’t pause to ask whether it’s truly safe or aligned with our limiting beliefs. In a sense, they skip the mental ‘checkpoint’ where our mind would normally raise important questions or concerns. So I would simply do it.
There are thoughts that serve you more and some that serve you less. You pick whatever works for you the best. Remembering this is… useful.
I was going to say something like this
A good promotional copy for Inner Voice module.
I have a similar one that I practice right now: I effortlessly let go of things that no longer serve me.
Or
I make space for the things that nurture and nourishes my thriving.
I’m curious how others define “belief”.
I personally subscribe to a pragmatic view, where what someone truly believes is demonstrated by their actions - not what they claim. In other words, your beliefs are what you live.
For example: Someone who says they believe that their health is important, but consistently smokes cigarettes, eats junk food, and avoids exercise. Oh here’s another one, lol. New Agers who say they believe they’re “infinite light and power” but then go jerk off to pornography in shame and self-hatred due to being powerless in their ability to attract any women into their life.
I used to watch a TV show called Shark Tank, where entrepreneurs would make business presentations to a panel of investors. On many episodes, an entrepreneur would “believe” so much in themselves and their idea despite it being miserably doomed for failure. They were so delusional in their own “belief”, that they ignored the brutal reality of their idea being complete garbage, while willfully neglecting any constructive feedback. I do think that believing in yourself is important, but I think that it can be severely overemphasized in a manner that’s self-destructive as a form of coping mechanism. Competence, skill-building, goal-setting, executive function, getting out of your comfort zone, overcoming adversity, learning from successes and failures, having the humility to integrate feedback from people who have more expertise and knowledge than you, etc. There are so many things that are overwhelmingly more paramount towards success in any endeavor in life than “belief”. I often scratch my head when I keep hearing “belief, belief, belief” in self-development spaces. I’m naturally inclined to treat it like a meme. This is merely a general observation based on my own experience, but I consistently find that people who are most often vocal about “belief” on the internet tend to be low status and low QoL in general, which ends up with them flocking to each other through an echo chamber/group-think so that they can avoid the discomfort of growth together. I have never seen nor encountered 1 verifiable instance in both real life or the internet, in which a successful person attributed a large majority of their success to the power of “belief.” It’s mentioned of course, but other things typically take far more precedence such as being consistent, being obsessed with your practice, having a relentless work ethic, etc. I even have a quote that goes something like:
“Just believe you’re a millionaire, bro. Don’t get a job, don’t invest, don’t learn any skill - just believe and the money will rain from the sky.” said the broke person to the other broke person. #LOA
Again, I’m not downplaying it - I think belief is very important, but I also think it’s one of the most overrated, overhyped, and misunderstood concepts in the self-development space. I’ve seen it too often be treated like a magical fix, like something you just “turn on” like a light switch. Nobody likes to talk about work, and what it takes to actually get things moving to build something. Someone who is desperately latched on to their comfort zone will subconsciously feel anxiety when the words “taking action” are mentioned. It’s the nervous system on autopilot. The natural response is “I don’t like this, let me go and focus on something that makes the bad feelings go away”. A lot of people don’t like to talk about the things that actually produce the real results, let alone implement them into their lives.
One of my favorite sports teams recently had more belief than they’ve ever had, and I watch them first-hand get absolutely dominated in every way you can possibly fathom within their own arena. All of that “belief” did nothing to help - they got their asses handed to them on every level (psychologically, physically, spiritually, emotionally). If belief is so magnificent and powerful, then why did they get their souls ripped out of them? That’s what I asked myself after witnessing what I witnessed. I’ve also watched MMA fights where the fighter strongly “believed” they could whoop their opponents ass, only to get knocked the fuck out. “I see it in my dreams!”, “I’m the man, there’s no way I’m going to lose!”, next thing you know their skull is bouncing off the canvas like a basketball.
Cool thread by the way, lol. I’m interested in your thoughts if you have any.
What a response!
I resonated with every line.
The quote (I may have read it here on the forum, not sure): “For every man or woman who has an excuse, there is someone out there crushing it with the same ‘limitation’” for me summarises my stance on Beliefs.
There are surely many individuals succeeding who don’t even know what “Belief” is
But you see, even the Delusion is the way to go is also a belief. I do believe that beliefs are the point zero of our existence. From where, everything arises. Emotions, thoughts, feelings, intuitions…
I have relatives that bought their first business 2 years ago. They’re not very educated. They spent a month doing due diligence, including a trial period where they tested running the business. It was conveniently during a busy month. They were so hyped, enthusiastic, and full of belief that it blinded their decision-making. It already wasn’t doing well, but they believed that they could make changes and improve it. The previous owner exaggerated the sales, so the business looked way better than it really was. They didn’t know that because they have zero experience. As of right now, they are struggling, it’s been running at a loss for almost 2 years, and nobody wants to buy the business. It’s also physically taxing, one of them has back pain because they don’t want to hire an employee to do the heavy lifting - they’re just gritting it out. They made a huge mistake, and now I’m taking control to help them out of family obligation. Anyways, the point is that they had the belief and optimism to go outside their norm but they forgot about everything else. All I’m saying is that belief is important - but all of the other things (competence, being honest with yourself, looking at the facts, using common sense, etc) are just as, if not even more important.
I agree for the most part. In the case of my relatives, I view it as their beliefs (zero point as you say) led to those decisions. That’s why I said:
So based on my view, their experience confirmed what they truly believe deep down in their subconscious framework, not what they consciously claimed. They claimed “I believe this business is going to take off!”, but deep down all of the limiting beliefs were most likely “you don’t even deserve success”. If beliefs are the zero point, it implies that what you truly live out and embody in your experience is a reflection of your beliefs. If that is the case, then is a claim or declaration of what you believe on a surface level, the most accurate representation for what you truly believe?
If someone says they believe that their health is important, but consistently smokes cigarettes, eats junk food, and avoids exercise. What is a deeper, and more accurate reflection of what they truly believe deep down? Their actions of what they consistently live and embody on a daily basis? Or the fleeting words that come from their mouth? For me - actions are what speak loud then words. I used to use a term for this called “congruence”. Anyways, interesting stuff. Thanks for the cool discussion, lol.
Yes, I totally agree that “It is not what one says but it is what one does”.