Question about personal reality/ frame

Have you ever talked to someone who just seems passionate in what they are saying and you almost get sucked up into their reality. Also you almost feel hard to leave the conversation they have a certain gravity. They can almost make you feel insecure at times especially if they target your weaknesses. You get sucked up and feel like they have something you need. Some knowledge or instruction manual how to best live or wisdom. They often will position them self as the guru or mentor.

Sometimes pick up artists might have this momentarily due to social momentum. Inside they are quite shallow and don’t have much substance but they appear to be super charismatic or with a shine in their eye. The content of what they are saying may be low quality. But the naive girl will get wrapped up into his reality. But she’s seeing an illusion and not the man’s true character. Often girls will try and figure out if you’re really about it after your initial confident approach because she might sense subconsciously something is off. Imagine a guy who gets bullied in high school no friends or self esteem but then starts going mega pickup mode going out everyday. Obviously cold approach if used correctly can be a great tool of character development so if someone who is going through that phase sees this please don’t take me wrong props to you for taking action!

What are the best modules or subs to have a powerful reality like this to enrapture others? Is Tyrant the best? Obviously to have a great long lasting effect on someone without targeting their insecurities.

Not only to have this mega reality charisma where you are super grounded in your super reality but also to avoid being sucked up into someone else’s aura who may have negative intentions.

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True sell, PCC, LBFH, manipulus for starters

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Do you have all these in your custom?

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No. Just saying those would be ones to look into for frame control and defense.

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Thanks for your input. How do you think Love bomb will help with frame control?

Do you think it raises your self esteem over the long run?

I’m asking coz self love can be like a giddy joyful lovey dovey feeling but those feelings can be quite unproductive tho amazing while you experience them.

LBFH has scripting that works as a shield against negativity.

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That’s good. Negative energy Transmutation looked awesome to me. Do they share similar scripting.

Some healing would help too. YOUR framing is toxic to growth. You’ve called men who are good at capturing women’s affection shallow and stupid, no substance

You called the women who go for these men naive also implying stupidity

How the heck are you going to develop any social charisma or skill when you’ve fed your mind notions that you’re above this whole game and anybody who plays it is some shallow no substance loser? Also ask yourself how these beliefs ever help you, grats, you’ve concluded (with the council of nobody but your own insecurity) that men who have developed intensive social magnetism are actually just meatheads, and the women they get just naive and unsuspecting prey. How does this further you?

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Based on that I’d suggest PS and maybe rebirth. If you wanna do a custom then I’d suggest not going too hard on the “charisma and dominance” and just adding in modules that fix your flow (sanguine etc) and others that you feel touch on unique traits you have (voice module maybe something to help you shine at work)

The game will play itself once you fix your beliefs

Remember how hard it is for someone who thinks money and rich people are evil to become rich

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Hahaha no I was making a nuanced point. There are clearly social masters who deserve respect I was giving a specific point about a certain example of person.

This is not exemplary of all people with great social magnetism. Great way of putting it by the way. I have no insecurities about my social abilities :slight_smile:

I’m trying to give the example of the pick up artist who every now and then pulls a hottie but hasn’t grown as much as it may seem on the surface.

Also some people start off with pick up and cold approach and the massive shifts in reality cause their drive to grow massively and they turn into great men.

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Sure. I talk to myself often :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

In other words, charismatic?

Titles that come to mind, similarly to what Palpy said:

True Sell. You really don’t need to look much further for what you’ve asked. And yes, I’ve used it.

PCC. In tandem with True Sell, all you need.

Stark. Even without the other two and running this one alone, I’m sure you’ll find what you’re looking for with applied action.

And, Wanted.

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Accidental submission:

Modules that come to mind:

Earthshaker: Authority/Iron Frame/Lion IV/Alpha of Alpha

Entranced

Ethereal Presence

Manipulus

All - Seeing

Natural Winner

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@Sage_Ninjistic

Well that might be an attribute of charisma but I gave like a specific example of it here.

Can you go into more an example of how true sell works for you?

But I’m also wondering about your reality having more and more of a gravitas to it and people being sucked into it and being taken on hopefully a good ride when they meet you where it turns into like a unique peak experience they will remember.

That’s why I’m curious what people think about tyrant or anything similar.

@Sage_Ninjistic

Your example was noted. Charisma is a state of being; how you use it is quite up to you.

I could. Have you looked into True Sell on here, yet?

No I will look into it more I think I dismissed it as being for sales and not right for me right now.

I strongly encourage you to search up True Sell, then. I don’t work sales at the moment and the title works for more then sales :slight_smile:

For example, I used it briefly before I added it into a custom with Wanted. One of my favorite customs to date, and I’ve created a few.

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From the very first moment of the interaction you will be in control, smoothly guiding the conversation and building up to the moment of closing

You don’t simply cultivate your charisma, you discover what charisma means to you, in your very own way, allowing you to bring out your very own sense of social excellence.

And some of objectives are similar to what I meant. And I guess persuasion is similar to a person who doesn’t want to leave as they are persuaded to stay.

Considering what you quoted from the sales page in comparison to me now?

Seems legit.

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I like the idea of being ahead in the conversation like having a birds eye view of the convo and where your leading it.

Oh the irony of you selling me on true sell.

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If I’m trying, I have failed. :wink:

I recommend you try out Stark and True Sell together. That’s a custom I intend to build at some point.

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