Quantum Limitless and Existential Intelligence

Questions and Comments
#1

@SaintSovereign Given how both you and @DarkPhilosopher have noticed how my wording and sarcasm shifted after running BLU I am curious as if running Quantum Limitless can trigger Existential Intelligence? If you’re unfamiliar with what that this is the best description I have comes across :

existential intelligence is the ability to use intuition, thought and meta-cognition to ask (and answer) deep questions about human existence

After reading the sales page for Quantum Limitless it does seem this is very plausible

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#2

So I guess Deep Philosopher will be there for us if we get bored with Dark Philosopher.

#3

The problem with answering those deep questions is that it’s nearly impossible to find the right words. In your head it makes complete sense, but only because you reached the answer by walking a very specific path. And unless you can guide somebody to walk that same path, the answer makes no sense to them at all. Like a math problem, you have to write down every step on the journey towards the conclusion.

It might certainly be possible on QL, but you would need to put yourself in the right state of mind. Even if you have the capability, you’d need to shift into a way of thinking that is very unproductive in daily life. And you can actually feel these two modes of thinking as two completely different things.

Unfortunately, in order to share your insights, you’d need to switch back into the standard mode of thinking, since the deep mode doesn’t allow you to type a forum post. :slight_smile:

I think Saint and Fire may very well have had this scenario in mind when creating QL. They, like many of us, are very curious about those big questions and the possibility for subliminals to aid in getting them answered.

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#4

Good topic

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#5

As in overthinking everything?

#7

@James

Also the OG Dreams may address such issues.

#8

Not really… I think the closest way I can explain it is that you’d be thinking in an unstructured and abstract fashion. Like how some brilliant artists can create amazing art and yet be completely unable to manage their life’s most mundane things like feeding themselves and personal finances. They need somebody to take care of them.

Similarly, some autistic people or savants can do things people think are impossible, but they lack in mental faculties we all take for granted.

Going into that state of mind is operating at a level that simply isn’t practical. The whole world disappears while you turn inward and broaden your perception to a place where everything makes perfect sense but cannot be put into words.

Obviously it’s a temporary state of mind, so you can switch back to your default (auto-pilot) state. But as soon as you do, like trying to remember your dreams, only a fraction of the epiphanies you experienced stick. Meaning you can only write down that fraction. And then you’ll have to go back into it and get another fraction.

It’s extremely frustrating to experience a sensation of complete comprehension, literally feeling all the pieces of the puzzle falling into place, only to have them fade away like ice in warm water when you try to write them down.

I tried describing what I realized while in one of those states to another philosopher a while back and he broke off contact for a month. When I asked him why, he said he did not know what to say because it seemed to be an explanation for something that defied explanation.

Anyways… so, how about them Yankees? :wink:

I think the reader can actually read the emotion that I was feeling when I wrote this. Both the wonder and frustration.

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#9

I think QL will help tremendously with this, as would Stark or Alchemist IMO.

I would bet you already have strong existential intelligence @James and you have blocks to fully utilize it-so DR might continue to improve this as well.

Existential intelligence is not the same as mystical states or realization-although the former would likely lead to an openness and susceptibility to experience the later. (remember by mystical state I just mean an experience a human is having not commenting on the validity of what that state’s perception on truth implies. )

In this sense I don’t believe existential intelligence would compromise daily function but it would likely challenge your priorities and how you conduct yourself day to day.

To further expand

" An element of existential intelligence, is recognizing and understand our interconnectedness with the world around us and the universe at large. Gardner argues that a key attribute of this is being able to perceive the bigger picture or in other words, to conceive our lives and every-day actions in the context of the grand cosmic arena.

Awecademy calls this having a “cosmic perspective” and learners with this ability “Cosmic Citizens”. A cosmic citizen is anyone who recognizes our place in the universe, the fragility of our planet, and the unimaginable potential we have as a species. At its core, the cosmic perspective is about zooming out and seeing the big picture. It involves acknowledging our place in the cosmos and stepping back and contemplating our purpose in the grand scheme of things."

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and because the picture in the article is so similar as as BLU sales copy- I would recommend BLU as well lol

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#10

Yes, it is. Not as much as the O.G. Blue Skies, though. One day, I should release that thing.

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#11

To be fair, high-level learning in any subject or domain tends to require at least some period of retreat from the world of practical, common-sense action. A built-in tension exists between the mind that is learning and the mind that ‘gets it’. Sometimes one needs to be temporarily sacrificed so that the other can thrive.

Existential enquiry—in which we’re addressing some of the largest and most enduring (and ultimately unanswerable) questions of our lives—is, unsurprisingly, no exception.

But the onus is on us to recognize when it’s time to make the reverse journey. Come back down from the mountain top and integrate whatever the hell we saw up there.

I believe that given enough time and repetition, deeper levels of integration become possible. We climb the mountain. Blow our mind. Descend the mountain. Integrate. The first time this happens we feel like a really big deal and we walk around like little prophets. But then, we climb again. The cycle repeats. And sometimes it repeats 20, 30, or more times in one lifetime.

Eventually we may take the piss out of the whole thing, and realize that knowing and not-knowing are just two legitimate statuses (among many). The value of the journey may outweigh that of the destination. The questioning process itself may be appreciated as much as whatever answer we’ve managed to attain this particular year.

Younger athletes might train for the glory of winning the playoffs. Older ones might come to train for the value of the training itself.

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#12

would the blue skies module give something close to that effects?