qOS Question and Answer Thread

Questions and Comments
#406

Question from @duby39 (original post):

@qOS How would Khan Black St1 and Heartsong St1 (Attunded) fit together?

Summary

@duby39 — yes, they fit together well. Both are clearing stages, and they work on neighbouring ground from two different sides, so they complement each other far more than they overlap.

What each one works on
Khan Black Stage I works on your relationship with your own desire. Clearing the Ashes helps the old verdicts about sex and wanting settle out. The Hearth Asks Nothing helps retire the inner examiner from intimacy. Old Scorch Marks softens the grip of old sexual hurts, so a new person is not met through an old wound. The stage ends with The Hidden Spring, your first direct feel for the still essence beneath sexual energy.

Heartsong Attuned works on your heart in love. Worthy Before Chosen helps your worth stop depending on who responds. The Settled Heart helps your body learn that closeness is not danger. The Past Set Down releases old relational reflexes, and Secure Ground calms the swing between reaching too hard and pulling away.

Where they meet
They meet at intimacy. Khan Black helps clear what blocks desire and presence in the body. Attuned settles the body around closeness and helps you love from worth rather than need. Run together, the sexual side and the emotional side may clear in the same season. The shame work lines up as well: Stage I lifts shame about sex and desire, and Wanting Cleanly lifts the shame of wanting love.

Attuned also brings some settling of its own, because The Settled Heart and Secure Ground together calm the body around love. That partly does the job PEACE does beside Stage I, though only around closeness rather than across your whole day.

The one thing to know
This is a heavier pairing than either title alone, because both are doing clearing work at the same time. Stage I can run heavy for a few weeks, which is why Khan Black recommends PEACE as its Stage I partner. Khan Black places Heartsong at Stage III as its relationship pairing. There, Heartsong builds love from wholeness and The Crucible helps you bring a fire of your own that giving does not drain.

My recommendation
Run them together if you want the sexual and romantic sides cleared in one season. For an experienced listener, it is a sound choice. If it runs heavy, step back to Khan Black Stage I with PEACE and bring Heartsong back in beside Stage III. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#407

Question from @TheGreenMan (original post):

@qOS How would WANTED: Dreamboy & Synergy: Primordial Aura work in a name embedded major? Would it be too much aura?

Summary

@TheGreenMan — no, it is not too much to run, but it is a lot of aura. Synergy: Primordial Aura changes how WANTED: Dream Boy feels as well as adding to it.

What WANTED: Dream Boy brings
The WANTED: Dream Boy Core develops a soft, unhurried presence. Velvet Gravity is a warm, inviting field and not a heavy pull. Dream Current gives you a warm, slightly otherworldly hum instead of a sharp, high-intensity charge. Dream-Lit Gaze makes your eye contact romantic and safe at once. The Sexual Dream of Me holds your sexual energy with restraint, and the title also carries intimacy scripting rewritten from Primal Nights. Underneath all of it sits deep nervous-system regulation.

What Primordial Aura adds
Primordial Aura is five aura modules in one. Sphaera Magnetica gives you a wide, intense sexual aura that also shows in your eyes. Aura of Craving adds a heavy sexual and fun pull, so people enjoy your company and want more of it. Direct Influencing Aura sharpens your own persuasion, helping you steer conversations and situations toward what you intend. Entranced makes your movement, gaze and voice more hypnotic. Temptation brings a playful, mysterious side and a sense for the right action at the right moment.

Together
Several pieces overlap and reinforce each other. Entranced strengthens the gaze and voice that Dream Boy already refines, and Temptation’s mystery sits close to Dream Boy’s gentle mystery. The dreamy presence stays, and it reads hotter and more intense than Dream Boy on its own. A stronger aura draws attention from more people, including ones you are not interested in, so it needs judgement about where you carry it. Dream Boy also asks you to treat “no” and hesitation as full stops, and that matters more with this much aura behind you.

Recommendation
If you want the dreamy presence with much more heat and pull, Primordial Aura is the right module and the pairing tends to work well. If you want Dream Boy’s softness to stay in charge, ESSENCE: To Become The Prize keeps the build in the WANTED register. It is WANTED distilled, and it may help you settle into a centre where you stop chasing and interest comes toward you. If you are in a relationship, tell your partner what you are running, as Dream Boy recommends. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#408

Question from @ichigo (original post):

@qOS Is it possible to get a more detailed description about the “Aura of Craving” and what it does? Q store says: “You manifest an intense aura of craving that makes people crave you and your presence. Be cognizant of side effects.” In what sense do they crave you? Sexually? Romantically? Is it just magnetism? Imprinting? What are the side effects? For example, I have it in a custom alongside Primal Nights and Love Bomb. How is adding Aura of Craving in my custom modifying the aura versus how my aura would be just running those 2 cores without it?

Summary

@ichigo — Aura of Craving is magnetism, not imprinting. It develops a heavy sexual aura and a fun one at the same time, so people respond to you both sexually and as company.

In what sense people crave you
On the sexual side, your presence carries a strong sexual charge, and people who are attracted to you tend to feel it. On the fun side, people enjoy being around you. They want your company, want you at the table, and want the conversation to keep going. That second part is what separates it from a purely sexual aura. Nothing in it fixes anyone to you. Every title carries free-will scripting, so the people who respond tend to be the ones genuinely drawn to you.

The caution you quoted
That line is about attention. A strong aura draws more interest, including from people you are not interested in and in settings where you did not want it. Use your judgement about where you carry it and how you respond to the attention it brings.

What it changes in your custom
Primal Nights Core supplies a heavy sexual aura intended for consensual sexual activity. Your voice, body language, gaze and expressions carry raw sexual energy, and its pillow-talk scripting extends that into how you speak with a partner. Love Bomb Core supplies self-love, forgiveness and an aura of love and wisdom, and it helps you attract partners who match your own model of love. It also carries protections against misuse of that loving energy and against people taking advantage of you.

Without Aura of Craving, your custom gives off a heavy sexual charge with a warm, loving undertone. Adding Aura of Craving widens the pull. People still respond to you sexually, and they also tend to enjoy your company and want more of it in settings that have nothing to do with sex. More people, in more kinds of situations, tend to seek you out.

Next step
If you are in a relationship, tell your partner what you are running, as Primal Nights recommends, because three aura sources together draw noticeably more attention. Then use your judgement about which attention you return.

#409

Question from @themadsexyscientist (original post):

@qOS I’m planning on running LOTS with Handsome and sensual improver as the module for the name embed but had a few questions about it do you have to consume more calories since its very energy intensive would it clash with GLM become the prize name embed can it help with a receding hairline that makes your forehead look bigger than it already is If being taller is what you see as being more sexy or handsome, would the script manifest that outcome

Summary

@themadsexyscientist — yes, Legacy of the Spartan Core with Sensuality & Handsomeness Improver is a sound pairing. Legacy of the Spartan works on your body, hair and face. Sensuality & Handsomeness Improver works on how handsome you come across and develops your inner sensuality, so you may express it easily and find it tends to be returned. Your four questions in order:

Calories
Nothing in Legacy of the Spartan sets a calorie requirement. It includes scripting that supports faster fat burning and channels that energy into building your body, and you can consciously guide it if you do not want to lose fat, for example during a bulking phase. It also supports your natural energy for training. What matters most is your health: the better your health, the better your results. Eat well enough to fuel your training and recovery, and give your body time to rest while it changes.

With your Godlike Masculinity and To Become The Prize custom
No clash. Godlike Masculinity develops composure, self-mastery and a steady joy. Its physical shifting feature, The Body of Stillness and Strength, supports posture, strength, hair and skin, so it points the same way as Legacy of the Spartan. ESSENCE: To Become The Prize is WANTED distilled into one module. It helps you settle into a centre where you stop chasing and interest comes toward you. Sensuality & Handsomeness Improver fits that frame well, because it develops the sensuality you then express from that settled place.

Receding hairline
Legacy of the Spartan supports fuller, healthier, more lustrous hair and beard, but it does not focus on the hairline. Paragon: Hair Protocol is the title built for that. It supports nourishment reaching the root, circulation in the scalp, deep rest and a calm scalp, and it may help thinning, quieter areas move toward the conditions for new growth. Ancestral Renegotiation helps soften the “it runs in my family” story. Hair Protocol recommends stacking with Legacy of the Spartan for a head-to-toe change. It is not medical treatment and makes no promise about any particular hairline. Hair grows on a slow cycle, so change is measured in months, and some causes of hair loss a subliminal cannot reach. If the recession is sudden or rapid, see a doctor first, and keep any prescribed treatment in place.

Height
No. Height is not a feature of Legacy of the Spartan or of Sensuality & Handsomeness Improver, so seeing height as attractive will not make either of them add it. Physical shifting supports your body to heal, develop and improve, but it will not make you into something you are not, and it takes time. Height has its own module, Commanding Stature, which focuses on carrying yourself taller and straighter, with posture that emphasises length. Results from physical scripting take weeks, months or years, depend on your individual attributes, and are not guaranteed.

Next step
Run the build as you planned it if muscle, face and sensuality are the priority. If the hairline matters most to you, add Paragon: Hair Protocol as a standalone title, or put Commanding Stature in the module slot in place of Sensuality & Handsomeness Improver if height matters more. Listening guidance for running two name-embedded titles alongside each other is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

#410

Question from @BlissAdventurer (original post):

@qOS Saint mentioned that RICH is very good for cooperate career, also Genesis Mogul has the rich and wealth path for cooperation career too. Could you explain and compare the “flavour” of career wealth of R.I.C.H and Genesis Mogul? Which stage in a person career is best use for R.I.C.H or Genesis Mogul? For EOG st1 & st2, I believe they are best use when you are developing into a career and need to improve and gain the skills. But skills have their ceiling, you cannot keep improving the skills forever, once you master the skills, you need a different path for weath. Is this correct? Which title is best for a person to intuitively know the career path and success, quickly claimb to higher position and the best income possible? No brainer for keep grinding blindlessly without clear path of success and income. Especially, when the cooperate jobs are changing and very tough nowadays.

Summary

@BlissAdventurer — for knowing your career path and climbing it quickly, R.I.C.H. is the pick. Genesis: Mogul is the better fit while the path itself is still open. SaintSovereign said in post #7 of this thread that R.I.C.H. was designed for the career, and that where a job has a clear pipeline for promotion it helps you start moving up the ladder very quickly.

The career flavour of each

R.I.C.H. works through alignment and clear sight. Career Advancement Pathways helps the routes to promotion, raises and recognition become visible. That includes the projects that show what you can do, the people who will advocate for you and the skills that make you hard to replace. Wealth Vision Crystallization gives you a clear picture of what you are building, so your effort is less likely to scatter. R.I.C.H. Timing Attunement helps you feel when to move and when to wait. R.I.C.H. also carries the keeping side of wealth, so a raise is less likely to vanish into lifestyle.

Genesis: Mogul works through exploration. It is open-ended by design, and compared with other wealth titles it is much more focused on self-exploration and discovering your path. It helps generate fresh ideas for income and the drive to act on them. For a career, it sharpens your grasp of industry trends, financial dynamics and how organisations grow, which makes you more valuable to any team. It helps you attract mentors, colleagues and high-value people, and helps develop the presence of a trusted expert rather than a celebrity.

Which career stage suits each

Use Genesis: Mogul when you are still working out where you belong, whether that is early on or in the middle of a pivot. Use R.I.C.H. when you have a field or a company and want to see the route up it and take it.

EoG Stages 1 and 2, and the ceiling

Partly right. Stage 2 is the skills stage for career and business, and it helps you find areas to improve and pathways to promotion by providing value to your employer. Stage 1 is advanced foundational work on wealth beliefs rather than a skills stage, and it helps you discover which industries and careers bring you real joy. The Ecstasy of Gold is built with the ceiling in mind: Stage 3 is for someone who has reached what feels like a wealth ceiling, and Stage 4 helps you break through the internal limits that remain. If your income depends on persuading people, EoG: True Sell Stage 4 (The Empire) takes the same problem from the pay side. Within it, The Rising Number helps you document what you have produced and use it to ask for more, and The Universal Seller builds confidence in the skills that carry over when companies reorganise.

A custom built around R.I.C.H.

Start with the R.I.C.H. Core and add these:

  • Pathways of Intuition helps you notice and follow the quiet cues toward the most efficient route to your goals.
  • Job Seeker supports landing the role, salary and benefits you want, and helps with interviews and promotions.
  • One Purpose aligns your career with your values and helps you pinpoint the next steps.
  • Instant Business Tactician helps you know which approach to take in a meeting or a negotiation.
  • Navigating Authority with Integrity helps you work within a hierarchy, challenge constructively and hold power well when it comes.
  • Executive Function Mastery keeps your decisions crisp and your focus steady on complex projects.

If you also want Mogul’s exploration, the Genesis: Mogul Core can sit beside the R.I.C.H. Core. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#411

Question from @BlissAdventurer (original post):

@qOS I’m a very spiritual person, also I tend to be in my head and thinking mode a lot. Nowadays I feel less and less joy in life, no flame of fire to act and drive in daily life. You can say I’m not grounded in energy term. I wanna enjoy life again, have passion, desire & motivation to act and thrive in life. Does a full run of Khan Black help me to stay more grounded and have the flame of enjoying life I used to have?

Summary

@BlissAdventurer — yes, a full run of Khan Black can help with both the grounding and the fire to act. It reaches joy more indirectly, so for that part I would add a title built for joy.

What a full run looks like
Stage I helps clear what has been muting your own warmth: shame, numbness and old hurts. For a spiritual person, The Same Fire matters most here. It helps close the old split between the sacred and the sexual, so you may sit in meditation without leaving half of yourself at the door, and the energy you spent guarding that border can come back for use. The Thaw helps wake feeling back up in ordinary life, so food, touch and sunlight may start to register again.

Stage II is the grounding stage. The Way Down helps everything that stirs in you settle low, so in a tense moment you may think with your weight beneath you rather than from the top of your head. Reading the Depths helps you feel your own energy in plain body terms and tell a day for pushing from a day for recovery. That supports the move out of your head and into your body that you are describing.

Stage III is where the drive comes in. Where the Fire Goes and The Fire Finds the Work help your energy lean in behind whatever you choose: the project, the training, the hard conversation. Gathering the Depth helps the afternoon slump loosen its grip, so you may still have something left at the end of the day.

Stage IV helps all of it keep going on its own. Relighting develops the will to strike the spark again after any slump, which speaks directly to the fire you feel you have lost.

What Khan Black is and is not built for
Khan Black is an energetic development title. It works on your sexual and vital energy, and drive, presence and groundedness grow out of that. It is not a joy or purpose title. Joy may show up along the way as a by-product of a fuller body and clearer energy, but it is not the aim. You mentioned that Summertime gave you more fun going out without the passion to act. Khan Black is built for that second part.

For the joy itself
Genesis: The Art of Happiness and Joy is the title built for exactly this, and it is free. It helps you find joy in small daily moments, reclaim play, set down old emotional weight, and connect what you do each day to what matters to you.

PEACE is also worth knowing about. It is the partner Khan Black recommends for Stage I, because it keeps you steady while the clearing runs. Its Clear Room helps a crowded mind empty itself, which suits someone who lives in their head, and PEACE does not reduce drive.

A custom idea
If you would rather carry it in one build, start from the Khan Black Stage 1 Core and the Genesis: The Art of Happiness and Joy Core, then add:

  • Synergy: Semper Praesens, which helps you stop overthinking and brings your attention into the present
  • Machine: Action, which helps the pull of empty activity fade while your motivation to create and work grows
  • Productivity Unleashed, which builds your desire to work and helps you get into the zone
  • Endgame Drive, which turns hesitation into momentum so tasks get finished
  • Synergy: Winner Overdrive, which develops motivation that keeps going through setbacks

That is seven slots, with room to grow, and it follows Khan Black’s own advice that a first Crucible custom starts on the Stage 1 Core.

Khan Black is an Artisan-line title for experienced listeners, so start slowly. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#412

Question from @Akephalos (original post):

@qOS summarise the internal and external shifts and results from heartsong stage 1 and stage 2,from the main copy and peoples reported experiences

Summary

@Akephalos — here is what each stage of Heartsong is built to develop, inside you first and then in your life. One thing first: results vary from person to person, because Heartsong works with your own history, situation and conscious guidance. Two people may notice similar shifts while a third moves through them in a different order, and someone else’s experience says little about what yours will be. For that reason I will not summarise other people’s reported results. What follows is what each stage sets out to do.

Stage 1: Attuned

What shifts inside. The early changes tend to be about worth and safety. Worthy Before Chosen helps your sense of value stop rising and falling with replies, glances and first dates, so a slow message may stop ruining an evening. Whole Before Anyone helps your own life feel full on its own terms, so a Friday night alone may become simply a good night. The Settled Heart helps your body learn that closeness is not a threat, so a kiss or a long look may be felt instead of braced against. Wanting Cleanly helps you want love without shame and without the desperate grip. The Past Set Down helps old heartbreaks stop colouring how you read a sharp tone or a late reply. Neither Scarce Nor Perfect eases both the fear that it is too late and the habit of measuring real people against an ideal no one could match, while your real standards stay.

What changes outside. Those inner shifts show up in how you act. Rejection Without Verdict helps you ask plainly for what you want and take a no as information, not as a judgement on you. Knowing What I Want helps you say early what you want from a shared life. The Same Heart Everywhere helps keep your warmth and your word steady with strangers and at home. If you are partnered, Repair helps an argument become the way back to each other, and Choosing Again supports choosing your partner on purpose rather than out of habit. Heartsong Reforged brings these shifts together into one settled way of being.

Stage 2: The Symphony

What shifts inside. The Symphony is the manifestation engine, built on resonance: as a quality comes alive in you, you start to recognise it in others and find your way to the places where it lives. A Match Is Possible helps replace the quiet sense that love is not for you with a felt sense that someone who fits you exists and that you could meet them. The Open Door helps bring back curiosity about love where there was tiredness. The Resonant Ear helps you feel a real click instead of arguing yourself out of every spark. The Honest Yes helps you make relationship decisions from what you want rather than from fear of being alone.

What changes outside. This is the stage where your social life tends to change. Where the Music Plays may bring more of your evenings into the places where the people you would love to meet already spend theirs. The Quiet Lead helps you notice early openings, such as a second glance or a friend suggesting you two should meet, and act on them. Leadership of the Heart helps you find the courage to tell someone plainly that you would like to see them again. The Slow Burn helps you enjoy the early spark while compatibility proves itself over time. The Clean Release helps you end what is not right with kindness, so nothing bitter has to follow you. As a relationship grows, Best Friends supports friendship at the heart of it, and Two Whole People helps each of you keep your own life inside it.

Start with Attuned, whether you are single or partnered, and let it settle before adding The Symphony. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

#413

Question from @Furkan (original post):

So I should go all Khan’s stages before running Khan Black, right? Let’s say I finished Khan then would you recommend me to run Khan from first stage to last stage again? And in my second Khan run can I run KB St1 with Khan ST1 or should I run it with other stages of Khan. And when I finished my first Khan run, do I have to start from stage 1 to run it again. @qOS

Summary

@Furkan — no, you do not have to finish all four Khan stages before Khan Black. Which one comes first depends on what you want to build first.

Khan first or Khan Black first
Khan Black works on the inner energetic foundation. Running it first tends to make external results come more quickly on the runs that follow, Khan included, because the energy those results draw on is already in place. Khan goes straight at the external results: status, drive, dominance and romance. If you want the foundation first, start with Khan Black and come to Khan afterwards. If you want the external results now, carry on with Khan, which is built to be run in order, one stage after another, and bring Khan Black in afterwards. Either order is sound. What matters is not running Khan Stage 1 and Khan Black Stage I at the same time, since both are heavy healing stages.

Running Khan a second time
A second run is a good option once your first run is done, and it is your choice rather than a requirement. Khan recommends going back through the whole four-stage process after you have finished it once. A second pass tends to bring up new material and the subtler sides of confidence, social dominance and who you are. If you would rather move on to Khan Black after your first run, that is just as sound a plan, and starting Khan Black then may help your second Khan run land faster.

Where Khan Black Stage I fits in a second run
Run it beside Khan Stage 4 rather than Khan Stage 1. Total Breakdown is Khan’s most forceful healing stage, and Khan Black Stage I is the most thorough sexual healing work Subliminal Club has put into a single stage. Running the two together makes a long stretch of processing. Khan Stage 4 combines Stages 2 and 3 without Stage 1’s breakdown healing, so Khan Black Stage I has room to do its clearing beside it. Further on, Khan Black Stage IV running beneath Khan is the strongest configuration in that line.

Starting a rerun
Yes, a rerun starts at Stage 1 and goes through the stages in order again. Each stage builds on the one before it, so the second run follows the same path as the first.

Decide whether you want the inner foundation or the external results first, and let that set the order. If you run both titles in the same season, keep Khan Black Stage I away from Khan Stage 1. Go at a pace that feels manageable, and ease off on any day it gets heavy. Listening guidance is in the official instructions: https://instructions.subliminalclub.com

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#414

Is this a mistake?

#415

Nah. Regen is a pure healing title. The other titles have development aspects to them.

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#416

Regen isn’t pure healing though. It was said on the thread that it’s 80% of NS regulation and only 20% of healing

Also DRR is 4 stages which should allow for much deeper healing even if it might be less total in each stage

I believe qOS is mistaken here

#417

hello mate, I remember seeing this said by Saint a while back, qos is correct

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#418

This is correct.

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#419

@qOS

obviously if i am thinking of using wanted core i would drop the major title wanted from the stack then. keeping that in mind do you think i should make a wanted and primal seduction custom as the additional modules would be processed through the two of them & obviously i would replace the wanted major title with the new custom. or do you think i should make a different combination with primal or wanted etc according to my goals?

also what are the custom prices. It’s like $15 for modules/cores & then what is the build cost. Are they any other costs then?

also how does primal seductions new subliminal experience scenario scripting compare to new romance experience core because to me it seems like the new romance experience core would result in more romantic encounters with women but synergy perfect manifestation only aids in finding someone I like and does nothing beyond that?

#420

I see, so heartmadeiron was right too. Thank you everyone

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#421

@qOS If Primal/Primal Seduction is for pursuing women and the Wanted line is being pursued by women, then what is Emperor regarding women?

#422

@qOS
Are the modules Commanding Stature and Seductive Calibration included in Wanted?
From your answer, I read it as you seeming to say that they aren’t, but both of these modules were released as part of the Wanted module pack, weren’t they?

I would appreciate clarification on this, as if they aren’t contained by the Wanted core (or scripting to the same effect), then I’d probably want to add them later to my Wanted custom :slight_smile:
Also, if they aren’t included in the Wanted core, are there any other modules from the Wanted module pack that are also not included in the Wanted core? :eyes:

#423

@qOS what would be the best module and cores for job promotions, increase commissions in the main corporate job, bonuses and also become the best at the job and being loved by everyone at work?

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#424

@qOS What does aeon actually do, I know Khan black is recommenedd before, And khan black build the crucible like nei dan practice.

But what does aeon do more specifially than the sales page say time modulation, Will it help attune more to subtle energies?

I have always been very spiritual and got advanced in several spiritual practices, and i feel drawn to aeon after this khan black run.

But would love to know more specifially what aeon do or how it change my perception.

#425

@qOS

What would be the best sub for someone practicing to be an actor and being able to immerse themself in a character that they create or better yet, embodying a character that fits into the archetype of the subliminal they are running for example WDB, with the objectives of the sub as the learning points

Basically treating the sub more of a script that an actor must master and embody as a role rather than just a sub
would main character be the closest module for that

I want to create a character based on the objectives of WDB on the sales page to embody and practice like its an acting role

what would be the best modules, cores etc., for going about this

besides Raikov

emphasis is more on embodying the type of person who would be a WDB, or an emperor or a primal seducer

and how I would go about practicing that on my own time so when I’m out and about, it becomes automatic