When do you guys think they will be released. lol
In six months. 
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Agreed 6 months
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This is quite a while away. I mean think about it, Q to Qv2 took a year. Of course, SC has been known to make major breakthroughs here and there.
My current bet is that it’ll be here once the pandemic is truly over (everything is fully reopened, people are back at the offices, no social distancing anywhere) in the US. Why, I’d even wager that SC themselves are goaling on it because it’s possible that the team can be distracted by post-pandemic activities afterwards. They themselves also stand to benefit from having Q+ and Ultima+ ready to run for themselves just as everything opens up.
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I would say 6 months to honestly even the beginning of next year depending on how things go the next few months especially because they seem to advance and discover new things every few months.
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@Floridianninja for all we know, Saint and Fire could run a name-embedded version of QLQ ST4 v2 that enables them to make a massive breakthrough and launch Q+/Ultima+ next month! 
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Does anyone know if QV2 is like Ultima V2 in that it cuts alpha programming/healing (I think that’s what it does) from the core and focuses on pure results?
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They probably have that customized with stark, RM, and some EoG in there lol
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I’m curious to know more about this as well
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I’m debating whether to buy Qv2/UltimaV2’s now or just wait until the new stuff lol. I doubt they’ll make it a free upgrade, what do you guys think?
Free upgrade for existing purchasers, likely.
UNLIKELY: The price stays the same when it goes to Q+/U+. So in other words you save some money now
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I wonder what they will come up with next lol. I feel like they’ve covered nearly every main area. Maybe they will prioritize upgrading/optimizing over new topic subliminals.
They could narrow down into certain areas for their subs or even make more broad emperor and stark like titles. They could decide to make more titles based off fictional characters or people from history. They covered a lot if not most bases with the subs but they could drill down into certain areas.
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Damn very good points lol
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But it is almost the same thing with the modules on the Q store, i mean like how much can they diversify the modules. There is a lot of modules that honestly are so similar but different at the same time. Like the status/alpha modules sound similar in some ways but hit from different angles.
They can do the same with the subs. They could make subs based on a certain career instead of something as broad as stark or emperor. They could make a sub for teaching or being a better tutor. They could drill down into wealth more and make a sub that is for gaming for fun like gambling. There are really a crazy amount of diverse subs they could go into.
The crazy thing to think is that if they are creating this what are the governments of the world playing with lol. Especially the big 3
Can you imagine being able to reprogram the military with things like this customized scripts and all… that is crazy… and knowing the US government and how much they budget for the military i wouldnt put it past them using tech like this or even trying to advance way more into it.
The big 3 would be the US, China, And Russia. Maybe add a 4th which military prowess wise would probably be the UK or France or India
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I’m sure whenever Q+ and Ultima+ are released, there will be just as much hype surrounding it regardless of what’s going on re: pandemic. As for when? 
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I think with Q+ we will need to be even more cautious with our number of loops.
I wonder what Q+ will actually be able to accomplish. I mean with how Qv2 is, if Q+ is even more powerful and badass, it might just be able to give almost instant or instant results to an extent plus bigger scripts. It would be nice if Q+ allows for bigger scripts with more titles and modules in them. So i wonder if Q+ will be the successor for Terminus and Terminus Squared
I believe/from my understanding QV2 is a modification to the core that renders the sub 2-3x more powerful in effects because of it’s focus on manifestation and effect enhancement over core alpha training scriptiung but the build is the same as Q. Q+ will be a new build type between Q and Terminus in build strength but rendered in a way that is more consistent and effective than terminus
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