well, yep, one loop and recon is completely over. Now I’m back to better, energetic self with no classical recon symptoms.
Gonna do 8 (or more!) loops today - I’m feeling ambitious. Currently done 3.
I’m thinking about doing a small washout for a few days before my uni starts, just for a few days. Just to consolidate the changes, gauge my progress and take a mental break. Or not, maybe I won’t do the washout - I haven’t decided yet
Also, Emperor currently is doing two things for me
it makes me unemployable lol. I just can’t, can’t, can’t do normal work in which I exchange my time/effort for money. If work doesn’t bring me closer to passive income, I’m having so much struggle with doing it. On the other hand, my projects which are supposed to bring me closer to passive income are going much more smoother
I was kinda lost lately regarding what should I do. But with each day, my future plans are getting clearer and clearer, every step.
Well, you two are ALMOST tempting me into this lol
I would go insane if I did that but awesome if it works for you.
Although I am sold on experimenting upping my listening and dealing with more intense recon to break through rather than just run listening segments based on optimal present performance
Yea, that’s cause recon occurs during processing. Listening is not processing-in fact it can delay processing. Which can delay recon. Then bloom is when the sub is executing in full and processing is complete. From my understanding.
I ran Emperor for close to three years. It set an amazing foundation, but I really struggled with the work I was doing at the time, which is exactly what you are speaking to.
Having that clarity is fantastic if you can use Emperor to break into passive income or your business goals rather than deal with a job that’s great.
I found recon on this approach to not affect my performance negatively (except for that being unemployable thing but it’s just Emperor I assume). It is still recon and doesn’t feel good but nowhere near as bad as the classical recon. And it seems to move something very personal and deep inside of me towards improvement
Well this seems to be the original and official theory but so far, based on my experience, I’m more inclined to believe @Sub.Zero’s observations from a few posts above:
That’s real reconciliation where the shifts are highly personal and personalized (sic!). What I consider classical reconciliation are just our subconscious structures/patterns trying to fight off the shifts the scripting is trying to encourage. That recon usually causes “regressions” to the old structures/patterns.
Here’s where the battering ram approach comes in handy, surpassing those “superficial levels”, on which classical reconciliation occurs, by ramming out the “gates” at the “doorways”, leading to the heart of the matters targeted by the scripting. The whole process is just tackling stubborn subconscious structures/patterns, standing on the way to profound shifts.
So tempted lol. Specifically with the NSE subs as I find that even when I subhob all over the place I don’t get much recon. My biggest hesitation would be that brain fog and productivity recon that effects sales performance, but it sounds like what their experiencing is pretty different.
@Sub.Zero @WorldOvertaker Think I might have to wait out on the battering ram until you guys update on how a washout goes though lol.
well, as I said, I’m probably going to do one closer to September, from 28th to 1st or so
This is the most common and orthodox understanding. Yet, the processing takes place immediately after the listening and real reconciliation occurs even though I run eight loops every day. The shifts are profound and feel so natural.
I’ve never experienced blooming.
Yes, this is what I’ve been experiencing for the last three weeks of going with the battering ram approach.
I don’t plan on any. There’s no need, really, as the processing and execution are swift. It’s been three weeks already on that approach.
I have experienced it but with sub hopping. With washouts, not so much, except for a couple of times
That’s been my expierience as well. When switching to new subs I see some of what I ran in the past shine, but as far as the actual washout I tend to start reverting back to a lot of my old patterns and habits; less confident, partying, chasing girls, etc. 
When it comes to blooming, I concur with the official guide (the Masterclass) that says that blooming is not something we should look for, even though, experiencing it feels great.
The only thing I take into account are actual shifts in my subconscious structures/patterns that change me forever. I’ve experienced lots of them, and even more shifts I never was aware of or realized them after some time.
Those profound shifts sped up due to the battering ram approach massively, to the point I told my lover that she slept with a different guy every time she came over. 
Classical recon and blooming are not enough. The recon has to be real, soul-deep, personal and personalized.
what do you think would happen if I leave the sub looping overnight? 
Though, I think it could be excessive
You would ram out the “gates” at the “doorways” to more vital matters within more profound subconscious structures/patterns and the recon would hit you deeper and stronger.
I believe there are some limits you shouldn’t cross since it could be a really overwhelming experience, leading to terrible actions (ex. inspired by suicidal thoughts).
Proceed cautiously, mate.
Well, I might try doing it before a washout, we’ll see
I’m currently averaging 5 loops per day, will up it to 8 for now.
In my opinion, washout is the time when the most stubborn/resistant subconscious structures/patterns are the most rebellious, causing classical reconciliation most of the time, since there’s no reinforcement for the shifts that are occurring.
That’s only an assumption, however. I’ve tried a washout only once, and I didn’t get any recon (apart from the one I got before doing the washout, that lasted almost throughout the whole washout subsiding, yet it was slight) or bloom. I didn’t FEEL any difference doing that washout. I didn’t notice any significant improvements during that period either.
I don’t want to dissuade you from doing the washout, however. For the sake of “science” I might do a washout in some time myself.
I see how the shifts that have occurred in me in the last three weeks are getting consolidated so I don’t need washouts for that reason, and I don’t see any other reason I would want to do a washout.
That’s an interesting take. Thank you, I will consider it
My most recent observation is that at the current level of my subliminal input the shifts are occurring on a certain level, and I can sense some deeper subconscious structures/patterns beyond the “reach” of the current input (or the reach of the current technology) or being tackled by it “superficially” only.
It may point to increasing the exposure amount even further in order to tackle those deeper structures/patterns. I’m going to see.
I’ll be posting about more observations in my journal.
10 loops done
Calling it a common and orthodox misunderstanding means you’re saying it like an authority and the official answer. Are you saying this is what sub-club endorses via masterclass and general people misinterpret the information? Or are you saying in your personal subjective experience that this is what you’ve uncovered that is true for you? and *possibly * others in the sense of a subjective science having more universal applicability *
I will say in my experience that is NOT the case at all time off generally leads to more intense and continued recon that builds and builds until it doesn’t. Usually it if I have been running a strong stack it’s the 4th day that it peeks.
I say this in service of discernment and understanding, for both more objective truth on the subtleties of this process and my listening practice.
I have found understanding to be ‘pyscho-active’ meaning if I understand an objective ‘truth’ about a sub or subs or how they work it can shift how I experience and even process my entire sub -journey.
That’s misunderstanding since I called it “the most common and orthodox understanding”.
Nah.
This is how it usually starts. Yes.
Yes, it depends on the approach. You’re right. When running my 3-title NSE stack in accordance with the recommended listening pattern that’s how it would affect me. Like you described above (in my case, usually after around two months). However, reconciliation would be always “classic”, whilst when applying the battering ram approach reconciliation is “real”, meaning soul-deep, personal and personalized. In my experience, that’s the reconciliation that propels massive shifts. I’ve got plenty in the last three weeks, and they’re snowballing.
Thank you for sharing your insights and helping make necessary discernments.
There’s something to what you say. I find it more as a kind of reaffirmation of the “truth” (suggested by the scripting), that is what the sub is doing for/to me, yet more in the form of what I experience and observe (the NSE’s mechanics, I suppose) than what I understand in abstract terms. That’s very helpful when it comes to the consolidation of my “gains” (shifts). I suppose, it’s not very different in your case.
So I’ve done 11 loops while awake and god knows how many loops during sleep lol
I think I slept for 2 hours, turned it off, slept for 6 more, turned it on, then for 2 more and that’s when I woke up completely and turned it off
So, around 4 hours of Emperor during sleep (16 loops) + 11 loops while awake. Damn lol
I had some weird dreams. And despite me waking up twice, I had the most restful and refreshing sleep in a long time
Once I woke up, I felt very energetic, with the “go go go” thinking. Also got a very interesting shift towards love and amor fati, gratefulness and stuff like that.
Also… that’s it. I quit my job for now lol. Full focus on other projects. Will get back to my job if I lack money for necessary things like food (I’m a freelancer so I can quit and start whenever I want)