Primal Seduction Vs Primal Seduction: Iron Throne ULTIMA

Hello,

I am finishing up my Dragon Reborn Ultima and I have decided I want to do a seduction Sub next.

Its looking like PS is what Id like to do next.

Is it recommended that I do PS first before doing Iron Throne or can I just go straight into Iron Throne?

Not trying to skip steps but I just completed all of Dragon Reborn and I like that Iron Throne includes Libertines Aura.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Edit: I purchased the latest PS and see that Iron Throne is included. I understand the listening schedule for ZP, but if I just wanna run the Ultima since I have already done alot of healing what schedule should I run the Ultima? 1 Loop every other day for 21 days? Please clarify. Thanks! @SaintSovereign

The latest version of both are the same: Primal Seduction ZP.

If you want to go with the older version, go for Iron Throne since you have gotten a good amount of healing done.

Thanks for response.

I just bought Iron Throne, and yes I am seeing PS ZP is included.

What do you mean by ‘The latest version of both are the same: Primal Seduction ZP.’

Confused on which one I should run then?

i have a lot of experience with primal seduction iron throne ultima and i would highly recommend it.

still probably my favorite product after probably 6+ months of using subclub products consistently and around 20 products purchased.

but keep in mind all my experience with this product is in nightclubs so i have no idea if it works as well in other environments.

Both Primal Seduction Qv2 and Primal Seduction Iron Throne Ultima v2 are upgraded to the same file, which is Primal Seduction ZP.

Thank you. What was your listening pattern? 1 Loop of Ultima every other day?

Thanks for clarifcation.

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2 loops with 10 min in between loops around 2 hours before i arrived at the nightclub.

so if i was planning to be inside the club at 10 pm i would do this.

loop 1 = 5:50 pm - 6:50 pm

10 min break

loop 2 =7:00 pm to 8:00 pm

also, i was NOT masturbating at all during that period and i also listened to the product pretty loud (65-80% of max phone volume.

i mention masturbation and volume because primal seduction ultima did NOT really work well for me until i added those factors.

It’s already in ZP version

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Iron throne in zp version ? let me check my download thanks @Lion

There IS no ZP version of Iron Throne. Iron Throne is basically obsolete now if you use ZP. PS ZP as is covers ALL previous versions of PS.

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This.

EDIT: what SaintSovereign and Fire plan to do in the future for the 3 PS products (PS, PSIT, PSITU) isn’t known. But for right now, PS ZP is the upgrade for all 3 of them.

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For me PSIT is still my favourite sub since the past 2-3 years, I have a little bit of experience with PSITU and for me there is a difference between the 2.

PSIT will make the girls want you sexually and they will be attracted by who you are so they stay in your life as friends with benefits or girlfriends if you want.

PSITU will make them crave you sexually, they want you in their bed very fast but if you are not here they will not miss you as much as with PSIT. Both subs work better when you raise your testosterone, I do a lot of gym, 4x a week when using them and the effects are much better.

I really wish PSIT could be in ZP format one day !

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IT IS! :slight_smile: PS ZP IS IT.

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Is this 2 Loops of the Ultima?

I have currently done 1 loof of Ultima every other day.

I just finished with day 2, and this is the second time after finishing a loop that I feel almost high. Lots of energy.

Yes but PSZP didn’t give me the same result internally as the previous PSIT v1, PSIT v2 or PSITU V2 ( I didn’t use the V1) so I don’t know if it is very similar or not.

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yes the ultima

I am two weeks into this program and I have to say talking to girls has been so much easier. I got two numbers back to back to this week. Slowly building momentum up from this sub. When I am done listening to this sub I have SO much energy its wild.

Few questions I am still not clear on.

I have been running the Ultima every other day about 1-2 loops- can I run this everyday or is that over kill?

Secondly, I want to add Limitless to this stack- is this too much at one time or could I run Limitless along side it?

Any feedback would be appreciated @SaintSovereign

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What do you mean it didnt give you the internal results ? please elaborate.