Primal Night vs. Revelation of the Nectar Within (RotNW) – Which Works Better for Attraction?

Currently, I’m running Wanted Black (WB) along with Limitless and Mind’s Eye as my stack. In my next cycle, I’ll continue with Dragon Reborn Red (DRR2) after having completed DRR1 in my previous cycle.

My question is about the differences between Primal Night and Revelation of the Nectar Within (RotNW) as attractors for drawing women.

I’ve used RotNW a few times in the past, and after a week or two, I attracted a girl, and everything unfolded smoothly. However, the problem I had with RotNW was that it made me fantasize about women sucking … when looking at them (never happened in my life before)—even those I wasn’t attracted to (including “older” women above, 30). This made me uncomfortable(happened at work too), which is why I’m considering Primal Night instead.

My goal is simple: I want women to desire me and lust for me.
From what I’ve read, Primal Night seems to fit that purpose, but I don’t have much experience with it. I tried using it for a few days, but I didn’t notice any significant changes.
I don’t think few days are enough to test a sub I just didn’t have much experience with it.

Can anyone share insights or experiences with these two titles?

@AnswerGroup

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I don’t think either one is really meant as an attractant. They’re more for when you’ve already got someone’s in your sphere and taking things to the next level.

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Been running primal nights as a third title , again another title I think needs to be run solo aswell as rotnw…to really monitor their results with :100: accuracy.

Also I think I will experiment with solo runs of products to see what they truly bring !

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This.

Wanted Black has a strong attractant. Limitless has a mild one.

Brother in spirit, and everyone reading. You are running a title about receiving the best blow job ever. As a natural outcome of this… well, you are going to think about blow jobs. Doesn’t mean everyone will have this exact same response – most people just report an increase in sex drive and desire. But, if you have this kind of highly visual mind, with Primal Nights… well, those visuals might become more explicit.

But I can assure you, neither RotNW nor Primal Nights have “lemme holla at that old lady” scripting. That’s all on you, man, lol.

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lol this had me laugh out loud and the wife looking at me like I’m an idiot

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Despite the warnings, I ran Primal Nights before work when I still had the office job.

Ran it in the parking garage before heading up into the office.

Got definite side-eye glances from one of the office manager Women. And she’d start acting more feminine. Hair-playing, head dropping in a bit of a submissive gesture.

Didn’t push beyond that for reasons.

But I assume it was that noticeable that quick because I worked there a while already and she had a baseline sense of me as a person, and PN shifted it abruptly.

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I asked the support a similar question and the answer is

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Hey @SaintSovereign @Fire @Trader

I appreciate the responses, but I have to be honest—I don’t feel like my question was fully answered. Instead of clarity on the core differences between Primal Nights (PN) and Revelation of the Nectar Within (RotNW), the focus shifted to joking about my experience rather than breaking down how these titles actually function in practical use.

Which, to be honest, made me uncomfortable.

To clarify my intent:

1. Regarding the Attraction Aspect

Both PN and RotNW are explicitly marketed as generating a powerful sexual aura that entices potential partners. The descriptions of both titles highlight that they create an atmosphere where attraction and desire are amplified.

Given that, I’m confused as to why the response was that they aren’t meant for attraction. If the goal isn’t direct attraction, then what exactly is the mechanism behind these auras, and what should be expected in terms of drawing interest from women?

2. My Personal Experience with RotNW

I never claimed the title had specific scripting to make me attracted to older or less attractive women. What I experienced was an unusual shift in thought patterns that I hadn’t encountered before—something that made me uncomfortable because it was unexpected and intrusive in professional or public settings.

That said, it was also a very interesting experience because it seems to leverage visualization in a way that might manifest future situations. I understand why RotNW would generate an increased focus on certain acts—that’s literally what the title is designed for.

But my question is more about how PN differs from RotNW in practical effect and whether PN would be a better fit for my goals (which are more focused on generating raw sexual desire from women rather than specific acts).

3. On Primal Nights

The product page explicitly states:

"Primal Nights is designed to first help you develop an aura of absolute lust. Except this time, we’ve turned that aura to the absolute max. On Primal Nights, you will ooze pure sexuality energetically and physically."

Given that, why is it being stated here that it’s not an attractant? It also says:

"Primal Nights is not a ‘seduction’ title, per se. It’s designed for use between consensual sexual partners, and all the scripting supports that goal. However, the aura of lust will help you ‘close the deal’ with anyone who finds you attractive (in line with the free will scripting)."

@Trader also noted that it caused immediate changes in how women responded to him, so I’m trying to understand why the stance here is that it’s not an attractant. If it generates such a strong sexual aura that makes women react differently, wouldn’t that, by definition, be considered an attraction effect?

4. On RotNW

The description literally states:

"Revelation of the Nectar Within helps you quickly generate an exceptionally powerful energetic aura that entices potential partners to… explore the art of extracting the sacred nectar from the eggplant with you… with extreme exuberance and happiness."

If that’s not an attractant, then what is? This scripting is explicitly designed to draw in women who are already inclined toward certain activities—so again, I’m trying to reconcile how this isn’t considered a form of attraction.

Ultimately, I’m not here to debate whether the titles work—I know they do. I’m just looking for a straight answer on how they differ in terms of attraction, effectiveness in a stack with Wanted Black, and which is better for my goal of being actively desired by women, rather than just intensifying things once someone is already interested.

I get that humor is part of the culture here, but I wasn’t criticizing the titles—I was sharing an experience and looking for clarity. Instead of deflecting with jokes, I’d really appreciate a more in-depth response.

Thanks.

P.S.

I came here looking for real insights based on my experience, but instead, I got jokes at my expense, which wasn’t what I expected from a community focused on self-improvement.

The way my experience was addressed felt dismissive. rather than discussing it seriously, it was trivialized, sidestepped with humor, and even contradicted the product descriptions. If these subliminals are about understanding the subconscious, then feedback should be met with discussion, not jokes.

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No one said it wasn’t an attractant. We said it worked best in situations where attraction has been established even to a small degree, and then it can shine. Sometimes, people here will ask a question within a specific context, and when we answer within that context, they apply it OUTSIDE of that context. In this context, you asked what the differences between Primal Nights and Revelation of Nectar Within were as attractors for drawing women.

What we’re explaining is that both of those titles are focused on experiences rather than skills, hence why we said it’s not necessarily a “seduction” title, it’s a SEX enhancer and the best results will come from situations where attraction has already sparked up (again, even if just a little).

For skill based attraction (and pure attraction auras), Wanted Black is good enough. So, within the context of the question you asked, the answer is that those titles are for enhancing sexual acts (and yes, to an extent helping them happen) while Wanted Black has the best auric attractant.

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I see, thanks for the explanation.

Between PN and RotNW, which one do you think works better as a standalone when there’s already some level of attraction, even if it’s just a little?

From my experience, RotNW felt stronger in that regard, but I haven’t run PN long enough to make a fair comparison. I’d like to hear your take on which one tends to escalate things more effectively in that situation.

I also wanted to mention it looked like PN amplified the attraction I have gotten from using PS at the time quite a bit!

So it’s a good clarification. Knowing PN and RotNW are amplifiers and not seduction titles I should use them in conjunction with other titles like WB or PS.

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@anon1637736 have you considered stacking them together to get the best of both?

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You mean using PN with Nectar?

I have, but if I go all-in on seduction at some point, it won’t leave room for PS or Sex and Seduction in the stack. That means I might miss out on using both auras instead of something like PS.

For example:
WB + PS + either PN or Nectar.

I know PS and WB might pull in different directions in terms of seduction style, but I believe they can still work together.

That said, I’ve considered trying PN with Nectar and WB as well. :slight_smile:

I was hoping to hear more about people’s experiences with these titles and how they compare, but it looks like I’ll have to test them myself and share what I find.

Maybe not many have taken the time to distinguish between them.

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Your budget permitting, you could make a custom to get two titles into one ZP Slot.

WB+PS in a custom, or PN+Nectar, and so on.
WB+PN, PS+Nectar, the list goes on.

I myself am playing around on Q site, reading the cores and modules again, considering PN+Nectar with a minimal number of modules so it’d synergize and work faster.

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I know however
For now I’ll have to save some money :frowning:

I do have a crazy wealth and seduction custom I made with Genesis Mogul and Primal Seduction

I can run it with or without WB
From what I remember it was very heavy meaning it would take few cycles to kick it.

Btw not unlike WB :wink:

That’s the custom:

Genesis: Mogul
Primal Seduction
APS: Hair
APS: Torso
Equilibrium

Synergy: Beyond Seduction
Synergy: Perfection Manifestation
Synergy: Voice is the Law
Synergy: Divine Dominion - manifestations
Approachability Aura

Synergy: Primordial Aura
Fortune’s Favorite
Sultan
Financial Success Reality Shifter
Sacred Words

Submodel Alpha
Transcendental Connection
Power Talk
King’s Radiance
Synergy: Apollon Unbound

I know it’s heavy
I know many modules

I do think it can totally work for me

Hell, I would run that custom. looks good. Yeah, heavy. but the time investment is nothing compared to the rest of one’s life.

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Hehe I will run it but not sure when.

I imagine what it be like to run it with WB :slight_smile:

Because of studies I have to run Limitless for now.

And for Mind’s Eye I just want to see what it can do that’s why I use them this cycle.

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Primal Nights. RotNW’s aura is very focused on a singular goal, while PN’s aura is pretty much that of lust.

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What I was looking for
:smirk:

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@anon1637736

Here is another thing you could consider:

For one cycle, you could run ONE of those titles and notice what happens. Then for the next cycle, listen to neither. Then for the cycle after listening to neither, listen to the one of the two you didn’t listen to.

Then perhaps you could notice the difference, as people might have different effects on them.

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