PLEASE READ: The Bad News: Seductress Dark Cancelled :(

I don’t know of any woman who thinks like that and I know a lot of hard core feminists. Real feminists want EQUALITY, not to get over men. That kind of idea is a myth to discredit women who fight for equality. They don’t hate men either.

Unfortunately, it is a fact that there is a lot of discrimination still. Examples from ChatGPT:

"1. Workplace Inequality

Pay Gap: Women often earn less than men for doing the same job, even with similar qualifications and experience.

Career Advancement: Women are underrepresented in leadership roles and are less likely to be promoted to executive positions (the “glass ceiling”).

Pregnancy Discrimination: Women may face bias or lose opportunities due to assumptions about their commitment to work after becoming pregnant or having children.

2. Sexual Harassment and Violence

Workplace Harassment: Many women face sexual harassment in the workplace, creating hostile environments that hinder their career growth.

Domestic Violence: Women are disproportionately affected by domestic abuse and gender-based violence.

Street Harassment: Women frequently experience catcalling and other forms of harassment in public spaces.

3. Education

In some parts of the world, girls are denied access to education or are pressured to leave school early to marry or take on domestic responsibilities.

4. Healthcare Disparities

Reproductive Health: Inadequate access to contraception, abortion services, and maternal healthcare disproportionately affects women.

Medical Bias: Women’s health concerns are often dismissed or under-researched, leading to misdiagnoses or delayed treatments.

5. Legal Inequality

In some countries, women face discriminatory laws regarding property ownership, inheritance, or divorce.

Marital rape is still not recognized as a crime in several nations.

6. Representation and Media

Women are underrepresented in politics, media, and other influential platforms.

Stereotypical portrayals in media reinforce harmful gender norms and limit perceptions of women’s capabilities.

7. Sports and Entertainment

Women athletes are often paid less, given fewer sponsorship opportunities, or overlooked compared to their male counterparts.

Sexualization and objectification of women are rampant in both sports and entertainment industries.

8. Cultural Norms and Expectations

Women are often judged more harshly than men for balancing work and family life.

Societal pressures place undue emphasis on women’s appearances and behaviors.

9. Technology and Online Harassment

Women face disproportionate levels of cyberbullying, trolling, and doxxing compared to men.

In technology sectors, women are underrepresented and often face gender bias.

10. Economic Disparities

Women are more likely to work in unpaid or underpaid jobs, such as caregiving or domestic labor.

In many countries, women have limited access to financial resources like loans or credit.

These examples demonstrate that while progress has been made, there are still systemic and societal barriers that hinder gender equality."


I really hope they don’t include your first point in any of the products for women as denying inequality would only contribute to reinforce it.

I have never run seductress but reading the copy I didn’t get the impression that this is the case at all. I very much doubt that Saint or Fire would add any of that in the script. I agree that most women need more confidence and I am pretty sure that Ascension for women is included in the original Seductress.

I like the rest of the points you make :smiley:

I think the current seductress has this so I would def hope it’s in the new one. But I’d also add to this maybe knowing how to de-escalate situations or know how to navigate manipulative ones. I think it’s really hard to control what attention you get so it’s important to know how to handle those situations in a way that keeps you safe. I’ve also seen how chaotic situations can get when attractive people are involved and rejection comes into play.

I still struggle with people pleasing. I was in a situation recently where someone was being very forward in their interactions and I had trouble disengaging. I actually worry about this a lot, being able to say no. Like I know in my head it should be easy, but the situations themselves can get really messy.

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I am sorry you had those negative experiences, particularly if it affected the way you see men and your relationships with them. I am glad you overcome it.

I mainly wanted to point out that women still suffer inequality these days and that it would be counterproductive to include any scripting denying that.
TBH better stay away from all of that as it could give a lot of recon.

Good luck!

I think this is a hard thing to approach in general. And I’ve personally tried to understand the difference between very real external barriers vs self imposed limitations. And it’s not either or, which makes the whole thing messy.

I think when it comes to inequality it does have to be acknowledged as a very real issue. But much like an abusive relationship you don’t want to end up in the position as identifying as a victim. And to me the victim mentality is a tricky thing because that term has been thrown around as an almost gaslighting blame tactic. When really it’s just identifying as a victim on a subconscious level and letting more of those abusers get in. It’s like keeping the front door unlocked.

So there needs to be a separation of acknowledging the inequality and be able to do something about it, while still not being sucked into it and overly identify with it. Which I don’t think is the easiest thing to do because objectively the experiences happen but that shouldn’t compromise your own internal power.

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Internalised sexim?

No, it shouldn’t that’s why I hope they keep an improved/ updated version of ascension for women in the new version of seductress and whatever other programs for women they launch. That would help with the victim mentality and some of the issues that Spartan mentioned.

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Not just sexism. More as a universal concept. This is hard to articulate so it still might not make sense.

If you think about internal vs external. Internal is the influence you exert on the world and external is the influence the world exerts on you.

External influences exist differently for each person given a large variety of factors. People can use their internal influence to navigate it all. But if the external forces never change or are incredibly oppressive all the positive thinking and self belief in the world won’t change that. However internal limitations can sometimes be perceived as external influences when they aren’t. Drawing a clear distinction between the two isn’t always easy for me.

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This is akin to a koan in Zen.

You can’t find the distinction because there is none.

But that realization is not intellectualized reflection.

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I understand, but internalised beliefs come from the external influences that we have had since childhood and became part of us. We all have those, and in a way that’s why I use subliminals, to get rid of them. They are, after all, limiting beliefs.

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That’s a non-dualist perspective though. How can we know even that holds any truth?

@Venus, thought the point stated above are part of reality, they are not truth of inequality. Though I will not debate your whole post, do note that the pay gap for instance is a multi-factorial myth that is continued to be stated as truth.

Department of Labor issues a report on the pay gap between women and men. Women earn a median of $30,000 per year, while men earn $40,000 per year. In other words, working women earn 75% of what men earn. It doesn’t take into account the fact that on average, men work more hours than women. According to U.S. census data, men spend an average of 41.0 hours per week at their jobs, while women work an average of 36.3 hours per week. Women on average perform less hours on the job and thus have less monetary gain.

Personally, I use to work 48 to 52 hours per week because of specific goals that I wished to accomplish. And surprise! I gained almost 30%-35% more than the woman who perform the most hour (40 hour) in the same job as me. In my specific case I was willing to even sacrifice my weekend, having fun and time for myself to achieve it.

But you know what is funny? I met a couple of women with that mindset and they too achieved the same result as myself in a regular employed work setting.

Also in the capitalist society where profit is the main goal, it does not matter if you are men, women or a being from outer space. How much profit you can make me (the boss) is what matters. To illustrate, the NBA generates $10 billion in revenue which is generated through 30 teams across the league while the WNBA generates $60 million in revenue which is generated through 12 teams.

Do you truly believe it is unfair or discriminatory that the males player receive more monetary gains for giving the boss more revenue in case of sports?

Does discrimination exist in the world? Absolutely!
Is it as clear cut as it sounds in your post? Absolutely not!
If you are willing to look at it from a multi-factorial view, you will find that it is much more difficult to find the discrimination you speak of.

Finally, If something exist as a minority it does not mean we should ignore it. We should bring awareness to it, so that we can bring change. However, to iterate as though most of that minority is the norm is detrimental not only to ourselves but to others by creating fear and misconception that will eventually incite to more and more hate in an eternal spiral without end.

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@Jade-Emperor Thank you for your long answer.

The examples I wrote were generated by ChatGPT, which I thought would be impartial as it is neither a man nor a woman. I quoted the whole answer and did not edit it.

They only serve to prove that in 2025 inequality between men and women still exists. Progress has been made, and hopefully, it will continue, and one day lists like these will become part of history.

I could add that even if women work fewer paid hours, then they go home and look after children, the elderly, or the disabled, they are carers and homemakers. Of course, more and more men are taking on these tasks (thankfully), but in general it is women who are in charge of the domestic unpaid work on top of their day jobs. Please remember that we are not just talking about the USA or Europe; we are talking globally.

I am sure you can find more anecdotal cases that contradict these examples, but the point is that in general women are still at a disadvantage, and there is still a lot to be done.

Anyway, this is probably not the right forum to discuss these issues.

I know for myself because I have experienced it directly in the past, and have been working my entire life since to recall the fullness of this amount of unity in my being.

It has been and still is to some extent a painful confusing road but I still remember the sweetness of complete freedom and creativity, complete love and unity within my inner world that naturally experiences itself in the outside world in complete flow which makes the outside world and the inside world so in sync and harmony that they do not hinder or stress or fight one another anymore.

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Any news on when seductress will be released?

Don’t want to be ungrateful regarding this week’s amazing drop, just curious.

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Update on seductress.

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@SaintSovereign I’m horrible when it comes to time. Is not far off more like end of next month or in the coming weeks? Dying to see what’s new in this title.

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My guess is Valentine’s Day

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My guess is whenever it happens, we’ll know

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:unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused::unamused:

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Sooner than that, I believe.

Probably in the next two weeks.

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You should be a fortune teller, people would love it :slight_smile:

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