PLEASE READ: Q Policies + Coming Updates / Major Name Embeds (Open Discussion)

#43

I like that.

Just not order on a whim if you can’t afford it.

Or take your time and ponder on your custom for at least a few weeks.

And mistakes. Make a list of the modules you want, chose them correctly, recheck and only if everything is alright order.

If you’re unsure, just leave the build in the shopping cart until you’re sure.

And if you think there’s any difference to have it changed after you’ve ordered it, that’s just psychological, you’re just not confident enough you made the right choices.

Would that mean no money back guarantee anymore? Since you have the costs anyways, unlike now?

Not that it’s concerning me. I’ve never used your guarantee.

Does that mean the family name is gonna be included as well?

You could use a video ident process as well.

This hits like a fist in the stomach.
You have your fair share of successful people in here, but also a lot that are struggling.
Isn’t that even the most common reason for using subs? Aren’t most subs targeting stuff people are struggling with?
Genesis to find a way in life.
DRRed for major trauma.
Modules like Aphrodite, Job Seeker, Emotions Unfettered and many others for those who don’t show these qualities yet?

And that’s where subs helped me tremendously in the last 9 months.

So basically I’m very content with the announcement. The only thing that worries me isn’t even showing any negative consequences for me. I think it’s just triggering my old rejection wound.

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#44

I don’t think Fire means that we have to have no problems if we want to use the subliminals but that we have serious goals or at least the mindset to be serious about things.

Serious about getting our shit together and not waste their own time and other people’s time by making problems on the forum.

Am sure it is not at all aimed at those who want to get somewhere and be legendary.

And that’s exactly the type of subliminal users that are ideal.

Oh! Now that would solve some problems. But I guess it is possible to still give a refund even if the major title is name embedded. It just can’t be given to others though unless their name is the same lol.

Same here.

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#45

I thought the same think when reading the OP about the name embed, elegant.

Of course I have some doubt too: :sweat_smile:

  1. What will be the new price? I always loved how SC make amazing subs very accessible
  2. Same as @ksub … When in competitions my name was called by someone of another language, I often didn’t realize I was being mentioned
  3. I’m not sure about the “only for professionals”… I think some titles are great for what should be very basics needs, see LB for example (is self love only for professionals?)
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#46

It will help a lot to focus minds.

If you are still in the tinkering phase, not a 100% sure how the custom should look like, wait a couple of more days and think it through.

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#47

Probably in the sense of “being serious about it”.

SC has a lot of experience with this due to Q customs. I don’t think it will be a problem.

Not entirely sure about one fixed name for all subs. Will it be possible to make a name embedded sub for my wife or my mother e.g., who would probably enjoy Paragon, but would never open an account on an foreign website (these internets are not her thing), or how about stage names, or the nick you identify more with than your birth name.

Edit: Thinking about it… please make this possible. Paragon and 2-3 other subs I would be happy to buy half a dozen times.

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#48

This won’t change. We don’t actually get a lot of refund requests.

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#49

Exactly.

All of those programs already exist.

There are plenty of great resources already on offer that can help people to improve their lives.

But it makes sense that the next phase would be about taking things to better and better places.

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#50

They will still be accessible. I’m aiming for a $10-$15 increase, but no promises.

You can spell phonetically. We’re planning on creating a tool that will help you figure this out. Same process as the current custom process.

We’re going to get strict about letting people who are not of sound mind using our products. When we started Subliminal Club, my motivation (as corny as it sounds, but inspired me) was Starfleet.

The idea of a research organization where diverse peoples and perspectives came together for the good of humanity deeply moved me. We could set aside all of our external differences, race, gender, politics, religions, everything and focus solely on the product. In return, we would sacrifice profits and focus on the people.

But I was naive as hell in thinking modern society could handle such a thing. I’ve left social media almost entirely because there’s nothing but separatist thought being promoted, and you know what I mean.

“Man vs. Bear” and its counter movement, “Drizzle, Drizzle.” Nonstop political division, where (in my opinion), both choices were chosen by the establishment to control us. Just non-stop hatred and harassment of the public.

In the early days, this company helped me restore my faith in humanity, because that ideal I had was coming true. Helped me get over the intense anger I harbored due to my childhood. We had people of all faiths, all doctrines, all races literally discussing their issues and healing. So many times was I brought to near tears watching everyone’s stories.

But then, as soon as Zero Point became popular and people who want to steal power or make a name for themselves came out in droves, causing all kinds of issues. If you knew the kinds of ridiculousness we’ve endured, you’d be shocked.

So, while I haven’t given up on this collective ideal, I’ve learned that restriction is now necessary, as that’s just the nature of what is right now. Simply have to accept that and stop pretending that people will “understand” and conduct themselves in a dignified and objective manner, stop projecting their own shit on other people.

We’re going to focus on the people that truly want to grow, and that means change. Change is inevitable. And change is something we’ve always embraced. We are still going help you become legendary. That is something that we won’t compromise on.

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#51

Ay ay Capitán Saint

To the end of the Galaxy

Let’s give this Ship some Fire and Let’s go

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#52

Thank you for your detailed response.
I understand your position better now and appreciate the explanation of the context and challenges you’ve faced. It’s clear that you have a clear vision for what you want to achieve with SC, and your commitment to maintaining the integrity of your products is inspiring.

That said, I still believe there’s value in making some of your titles accessible to a broader audience. Titles like LB, which promote self-love, can have a positive impact on many people, regardless of their professional status or current mental stability. Perhaps there could be a middle ground: maintaining higher rigor for more advanced and specific products (probably the idea for the Artisanal Line), while still offering basic resources for those in need.

I appreciate your commitment to positive change and personal growth, and I’m curious to see how your products and community will evolve. :slightly_smiling_face:

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#53

APEX EVOLUTION

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#54

Thats a good one

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#55

Commander.

We’ve always shared decisions, but we’ve decided that @Fire is Captain now.

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#56

Best ship in the fleet

YEEEAAAA LET’S GO

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#57

200w

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#58

College students are out of luck. :joy:

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#59

I’m all for whatever helps Subliminal Club grow and allows them to help as many people as possible while weeding out those with bad intentions.

As someone who’s been the target of people that have been banned for reasons that make little to no sense I’m all for whatever keeps people honest

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#61

3/4 isn’t bad, I guess I’m still ok. :joy:

Bit of devil’s advocate here, but what about people with common names? In my case there were 2 other people with the same name as me in my high school, out of just over 1,100 people. Or is this just for accounts that have been… problematic… already?
Sucks to be the second John Smith* (or whatever common name example you like) that signs up here if not. :wink:

*not my name, fwiw.

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#63

@Fire At the beginning of the sales copy for Dragon Reborn Gold it states that it is the pinnacle of self improvement. It feels like that title was basically the cut off from the current titles and what’s to come. Is that a fair statement?

#64

Wait so should I stop listening?