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#327

@SaintSovereign @RVconsultant @DarkPhilosopher @Fire

for the chiefs, i want to run Stark Ultima on my rest day or lets say as a booster

and i think the stark ultimaV1,

so how many loops of the v1 to make it equivalent to a V2 ultima ? to act as a booster :slight_smile:

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#328

This topic should be pinned at the top of the forum! New users coming here all need to read this!

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#329

Stark Ultima isn’t a booster, lol. You’re asking for overexposure.

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#330

Dear friends,
@SaintSovereign @Malkuth @Sub.Zero @TheEmpress @Lion @Jouissance @Fractal_explorer

The new experimental ZERO listening instructions listening to PN+heart song+Genesis: Mogul a stack of 3 sub together 7minutes listening each.

Do you recommend it can I listen to it alternative day as per further instructions?

Thanks

#331

I don’t recommend listening to all 3 together every other day. That could produce some uncomfortable recon.

What about listening to each sub separate listening days up to a full loop?

Having a rest day in between listening days.

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#332

That is extremely against guidelines, if that’s what’s you’re asking.

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#333
  1. Choose one.
  2. Microloop until you hit sweetspot.
  3. Run for a while.
  4. Want more? Switch to another sub.
  5. Microloop until sweetspot.
  6. Run for a while.
  7. Want more? Stack the two.
  8. Microloop until sweetspot.
  9. Run for a while.
  10. Rinse and repeat.
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On listening times
#335

What did you say?

#336

Is this still current or is there an even newer listening pattern since July 2021. Thank you! New to all this, so please feel free to simply point me to another thread if that’s easiest.

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#337

The recommended listening pattern is the same, mate.

:snowflake:

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#338

Great, many thanks.

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#339

Isn’t this pre ZP recommendation though?

It looks like this thread started in 2021?

When did ZP come out?

I thought the recommended listening is as follows:

Up to 3 titles in a stack for 21 day cycle. Wash out for 5 days and repeat.
Only listen 1x each title on listening day.
Take a rest day in between listening.
Group 2 together and 1 to alternate.

For example:

Stark + Wanted + LB

Monday ~ Stark + Wanted 1x each
Tuesday ~ Rest
Wednesday ~ LB 1x
Thursday ~ Rest

  • repeat

@AnswerGroup

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#340

This is correct.

These old threads need to be deleted to prevent confusion.

@SaintSovereign @Fire

Maybe some spring cleaning on the forum would be a good next step

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#341

The pattern in this thread is old as dirt yep.

The ZP recommendations are the way.

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#342

Ignore me. I was thinking this is another thread from way back when that was about listening either during sleep or not.

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#343

@RVconsultant kindly rename the thread title to

Old listening pattern, not used anymore

Or something

Thanks

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#345

What is the minimum duration of a microloop?
10 sec, 20 sec?

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#346

Folks, a little question.

How exactly should we use 2 subs in a day? Listen to them in sequence without pause (sub1 and then sub2 without a pause), or take some time between sub1 and sub2? Or it doesn’t matter, really?

Thanks in advance!

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#347

Afaik there is no rule and i haven’t been able to tell the difference.
However, I prefer to listen to the subs directly one after the other without pausing.

What makes a big difference for me is the time of the day when I listen to the subs. In the morning after waking up is the best time for me. In the evening, it can ruin my sleep.
You should try out for yourself what works best for you and what you feel most comfortable with.

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#348

Thank you for giving your insight into this! :muscle:

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