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[SaintSovereign]

@SoulFire

I think there’s quite different definitions of healing.

To me healing encompasses everything, life is a healing journey in the sense that it’s all about evolution, and to evolve and grow we always end up facing limits one way or the other and having to keep pushing past it, the trick is to be able to enjoy the process with the ups and down because change is inevitable, finding the fine line between pushing forward and letting go completely

True.

What I meant specifically is the focus on “healing” the past rather than integrating it. A lot of healing titles can cause us to dwell on the past, looking for ways to somehow justify what happened and the such, rather than integrating into the current circumstances, then transcending it all. In other words “it is what it was, now never let it happen again.”

And that’s done – in my opinion – in not trying to convince or persuades others and yourself, but rather through embodiment of your current ideals. That’s where I am now. I’m not going to justify myself or my work, or my ideas and ideals anymore. I will embody them, put those things out to the world and those who can benefit will. Those who cannot, won’t. And that’s perfectly fine with me either way.

[Uber_Elysium]

@SaintSovereign

All we ever do as self-conscious humans engaged in intense self-development is “heal.” I’m ready to just live, flaws and all, mistakes and successes. I’m ready to just ENJOY life. I’m sure many will agree.

lol the more I keep hearing about this “Foundational Title” the more I want it to happen haha

[TheGreenMan]

@SaintSovereign

This foundational title idea address that, allows the individual to just live in a manner in which they accept themselves. And from that fertile soil, a new way of being can emerge – guided solely by the individual.

I like that a lot!

Many (emotional) healing concepts I came across in the last couple of years felt very off and counterproductive.

They often defined certain emotional or behavioural cluster (not necessarily connected to trauma or wounds) as the problem. It felt a little like pathologizing, but even more crucial by concentrated engaging with the “problem”, hyperdetailed analyzing and searching for prove, it could even manifest the baggage in a way.

The worst programs didn’t have a proper offramp to really get rid it. You would just go on “healing”, really cementing it as part of your life. Just horrible.

I get where they are coming from. IF there is a emotional cluster hidden somewhere that is causing suffering, it has to become tangible once, so you know what to lose.

So, developing a skill to tell apart hurtful, selfdestructive aspects and reframeable traits would be a great aspect.

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EDIT: Maybe it can be boiled down to a single skill:

To consciously decide what not to/no longer engage and occupy your subconscious with.

What should be part of you and your world.

(Internally (healing, emotional baggage, letting stuff go) and externally (which fights to pick, which bait not to click, habits, socially dictated actions).

[SoulFire]

Yeah I agree deeply accepting the present is the best way to move forward, harnessing current ideals and applying them fully sounds good, also the acceptance of imperfections is a great attitude to have to counter the freezing/resisting perfectionist patterns, I guess that’s implemented in the scripting around accepting the present.

@anon78457040 mentioned many times and I noticed one such type of scripting from WB is really awesome for self acceptance, it would be great to see it in there!

[Akephalos]

Was DRR with this mindset?

[SaintSovereign]

@Akephalos

Was DRR with this mindset?

Nah. We don’t just jump into new modalities without letting everyone know first. The foundational title may use it. If so, it’ll be in the copy / everyone will be aware of it before grabbing it. If it works better than previous versions of healing scripting, we’ll adopt it then.

[Bull_of_Shiva_999]

@SaintSovereign

It’s interesting, because I was just talking about this last night: I’m getting tired of “healing.” All we ever do as self-conscious humans engaged in intense self-development is “heal.” I’m ready to just live, flaws and all, mistakes and successes. I’m ready to just ENJOY life. I’m sure many will agree.

This video that i am gonna post might be more suited to Subclub Black forum but since it’s related to this concept:

https://youtu.be/k1npRzRmTwk?t=107

[HeroicDragon]

How would it work as a name embedding with Synergy: I AM ATMAN?

[Jouissance]

@SaintSovereign

It’s interesting, because I was just talking about this last night: I’m getting tired of “healing.” All we ever do as self-conscious humans engaged in intense self-development is “heal.” I’m ready to just live, flaws and all, mistakes and successes. I’m ready to just ENJOY life. I’m sure many will agree.

A “results enhancer” subliminal that’s a little lighter would be fantastic. I think this post about needing help with healing is a perfect example.

@Hezlitt

Anyway, I’m in the early stages and it’s grueling. Going through this process of trying to meet women in public AND FACING COLD UNRESPONSIVE WOMEN is unearthing some HEAVY and virulent self image problems. The toxic self talk (more like self-shouting) is louder than ever. My feelings of not deserving love and sex are at an all time high. I’m miserable, wrestling with extremely negative beliefs, self-loathing, hopelessness and deep rooted feelings of worthlessness.

@Hezlitt

I’m a rank beginner to Subclub products. With the helpful suggestions from @RVconsultant , @ksub and others, I recently decided to create a Name-Embedded Major title to get started on my subliminal journey.

My objectives for my first Subliminal were straightforward: To stop porn usage and become focused and productive. So, I choose a name embedded “Emperor” + “Stop Porn and Masturbation” as my module add-on.

I’ve been doing loops as instructed for only a few weeks so far and I guess it’s doing something. The only tangible change is that I do dishes immediately after a meal instead of letting them sit in the sink for another time.

But I’m conflicted about whether this is right one to commit to as my first subliminal.

I intended to commit to my Emperor/Stop Porn subliminal for a minimum of 5 months but the last few days I wonder if I made the wrong decision on my first sub.

I’m thinking instead, I need a dedicated Healing subliminal. Here’s why.

He is trying to express the Emperor objectives and is brushing up against deep subconscious resistance related to trying to express it.

Is The Elixir is currently the best “healer” of things coming up in the present moment related to your stack? DR: Phoenix, now perhaps?

More devoted “healing” titles like DR:LD are large and intense, creating an entire second journey of intense transformational healing which can distract from the subliminal that was in line with the goals that inspired the need to heal in the first place.

Some sort of results enhancer, even a re-worked Elixir, to specifically heal/enhance things related to the existing stack, would be powerful, and could probably be a pretty light title - could be run solo for just general “Elixir” type effects but meant to be stacked with a particularly challenging sub for the user?

[Saiyan4Blue]

We could very well be getting ahead of ourselves but a cool idea for a result enhancer sub would remake Ascention Chamber to include New resoult enhancing experiance core + anti recon module

[Floridianninja]

I have messed around with many customs the past few years … but this one just blows things out of the water

Architect of Worlds

|1|A Stark Black Reality Core|
|2|Renaissance Man: Ultimate Writer X Core|
|3|Renaissance Man Core|
|Modules||
|4|AI Whisperer|
|5|Alexandria|
|6|Furious Ascent|
|7|Natural Winner|
|8|Subconscious Flow|
|9|Synergy: At The Top|
|10|Synergy: Carpe Vitam|
|11|Synergy: Divine Dominion|
|12|Synergy: Heaven Shaking Power|
|13|Synergy: Iron Law|
|14|Synergy: Tale of the Dragon|
|15|Synergy: The Golden One|
|16|The Single Point|
|17|The Streams|
|18|The Way of ROI|
|19|Virtue Series: Diligence|
|20|Visionary|

The amount of ideas that have stream lined out of my head this past week has been more then i think i have ever had at one time … enough to start 4-5 different unique book series lol

I love these subliminals you guys make and the modules
It’s like this customs has helped break open the flood gates to my mind

[anon78457040]

@SaintSovereign

We spend so much time “healing” and “striving” at times that we miss the beautiful, natural flow of life: and that’s what the NSE was originally about, and the anti-recon tech seems to really help with that. You’re seeing people just dissolve these issues and integrate them in a very transcendent manner.

What I’m experiencing with the new recon tech is not traditional healing (like psychoanalytic therapy) at all. It’s absolutely not about dwelling on the past or addressing old issues. It’s about dissolving the aftermath of the past—your beliefs and mental patterns—in the beautiful, natural flow of life.

You dive into the core of that aftermath only to uncover the “obstructive” subconscious structures still mired in the past—structures that block the beautiful, natural flow of life. The core mechanism is the reconciliation of those structures and their replacement with new ones that are fully aligned with the present moment.

This is exactly what happens with the new recon tech—only in a far more effective way than ever before, because you’re consciously engaged in the process and can guide it deliberately with your chosen intent.

@SaintSovereign

This foundational title idea address that, allows the individual to just live in a manner in which they accept themselves.

Something that @Saiyan4Blue mentioned here:

@Saiyan4Blue

No game, No alpha, no foundation, the furthest thing away from a normal childhood, no luck in life but he had mad flow and enjoyed spreading positivity without taking. He lacked so much but had what truly matters. Self acceptance, which cant be granted by subs or anything but ourselves regardless of the arbitrarly conditions we just cant stop letting go off in order to justify what we truly lack

That guy had a high flow factor because he was truthful to himself, and the subs emboldened him to act on the truth of who he was.

The new tech increases my flow factor by helping me immerse myself in the beautiful, natural flow of life more authentically and more boldly than ever before.

[Prioritas]

@Niles

WB scripting minus the harem and mysterious aura scripting would be perfect in my opinion. Bonus, keeping the physical shifting

I agree wholeheartedly lol

Paradoxically, it’s the best sub for self love

Maybe because it helps us accept that lustful, sex maniac part of ourselves, which we reject due to social conditioning

So we finally feel free to be the most base, instinctual, part of our self

And then it flows into great self acceptance and love

[anon78457040]

Me dealing with obstructive subconscious structures thanks to the new recon tech.

[Prioritas]

After reading the rest of the replies in the thread, it’s funny how the above - my view of why/how WB might be the most powerful self love sub in the store for many users - shows an early, possibly unconscious, version of implementing the same thing Saint is exploring in the new foundational title

Healing, not as “work” to be DONE, but rather healing as life being lived, ideals being embodied, self as a whole and in parts being accepted.

Sub Club journey over the years, as a company, as a community, and as an ever evolving philosophy of living, never ceases to amaze

[Invictus]

@Prioritas

After reading the rest of the replies in the thread, it’s funny how the above - my view of why/how WB might be the most powerful self love sub in the store for many users - shows an early, possibly unconscious, version of implementing the same thing Saint is exploring in the new foundational title

Healing, not as “work” to be DONE, but rather healing as life being lived, ideals being embodied, self as a whole and in parts being accepted.

I wholeheartedly agree, but then again, this might be WB talking

[WinglissStark]

Lmao why does WB not give me these kind of results, instead throws me into recon hell

[Jouissance]

@Prioritas

@Niles

WB scripting minus the harem and mysterious aura scripting would be perfect in my opinion. Bonus, keeping the physical shifting

I agree wholeheartedly lol

Paradoxically, it’s the best sub for self love

Maybe because it helps us accept that lustful, sex maniac part of ourselves, which we reject due to social conditioning

So we finally feel free to be the most base, instinctual, part of our self

And then it flows into great self acceptance and love

Conveniently enough, I want self love

And harem scripting

And mysteriousness!

Always loved WB but mainly ran it as a booster. Will try it as a main title for a while some time this summer

[anon78457040]

@SoulFire

@anon78457040 mentioned many times and I noticed one such type of scripting from WB is really awesome for self acceptance, it would be great to see it in there!

Yes. I’m just reposting my “summary” on the matter:

@anon78457040

WB seems to have everything that can greatly help us overcome our fears and debunk our self-made illusions and take necessary action with confidence, stemming from the conviction that we are worthy:

1. Self-honesty:

@SaintSovereign

Embrace your true self and amplify your innate qualities, without the need for pretense or performance

2. Self-confidence and self-worth:

@SaintSovereign

Embrace and nurture self-love and confidence, radiating an irresistible aura

3. Self-soothing:

@SaintSovereign

• Master emotional regulation, exuding calm confidence and stability

This is the core of that and the reason I called WB a spiritual sub once:

@SaintSovereign

It guides you on a journey of self-acceptance and growth, allowing you to embrace and own your imperfections with confidence.

If there was any reason to go back to implementing a primer, it would be this, imo.

[anon78457040]

@WinglissStark

Lmao why does WB not give me these kind of results, instead throws me into recon hell

It looks as if you have a lot of “obstructive” subconscious structures to reconcile before you can even execute that scripting, mate. I think the foundational sub @SaintSovereign is planning to release will help you tremendously with doing that.