Please Help Pick The Best Healing Sub For A Newbie

Questions and Comments
#1

TLDR: I need to address serious negative beliefs and self-talk – especially around women, dating and sex. As a new Subclub user, which healing sub would help me? And which healing sub am I ready for?

I’m a rank beginner to Subclub products. With the helpful suggestions from @RVconsultant , @ksub and others, I recently decided to create a Name-Embedded Major title to get started on my subliminal journey.

My objectives for my first Subliminal were straightforward: To stop porn usage and become focused and productive. So, I choose a name embedded “Emperor” + “Stop Porn and Masturbation” as my module add-on.

I’ve been doing loops as instructed for only a few weeks so far and I guess it’s doing something. The only tangible change is that I do dishes immediately after a meal instead of letting them sit in the sink for another time.

But I’m conflicted about whether this is right one to commit to as my first subliminal.

I intended to commit to my Emperor/Stop Porn subliminal for a minimum of 5 months but the last few days I wonder if I made the wrong decision on my first sub.

I’m thinking instead, I need a dedicated Healing subliminal. Here’s why.

The last few weeks, I’ve been working one-on-one with a dating coach (Telegram calls) to help me grow my social skills and meet women a la “Daygame” cold approaches. Since I loathe bars and nightclubs, am introverted in a new city with no social circle, and I’m too short / old to get any results with online dating…daytime cold approaches are currently my only way to meet women.

This coach is having me go out to malls and stores, approach women and start conversations indirectly, then progressively build connection, attraction etc.

I tried the whole direct approach you see all over social media for years and it wasn’t working for me, so I’m hoping this more “natural” indirect, conversation based style will fit me better and lead to me meeting attractive women. BTW, it’s not NLP based – just casual conversations that progress to flirting etc.

Anyway, I’m in the early stages and it’s grueling. Going through this process of trying to meet women in public AND FACING COLD UNRESPONSIVE WOMEN is unearthing some HEAVY and virulent self image problems. The toxic self talk (more like self-shouting) is louder than ever. My feelings of not deserving love and sex are at an all time high. I’m miserable, wrestling with extremely negative beliefs, self-loathing, hopelessness and deep rooted feelings of worthlessness.

Brief Bio:

  • I’m 52 yrs old and 5’6 tall. Still have my hair, but am on the chubby side.

  • My industry has dried up the last few years due to outsourcing and AI – so I’m “in between careers”. I need to start my own small business to use my skill set to make money.

  • Decades long addiction to porn. Enough said.

  • Celibate. I’m talking impossibly long, Biblical dry spells and a pervasive, impenetrable failure mindset around women and dating, based on a lifetime of lived experience.

So, I need to stop porn. This is non-negotiable. I also have to fix my life, my health, pivot into a new and lucrative career, and build an interesting life. That’s why Emperor sounded so compelling.

But the most critical change I need to make now feels like my mindset and self image. The horrible things I affirm to myself in my mind and out loud…the negative, defeated beliefs I have about myself and what I deserve (especially at my age)…My God, this has to change.

It comes down to clearing the negative garbage…replace it with deep self-love, hope, resiliency and feeling like I deserve success, love, and sex.

I’m willing to commit to ONE Healing subliminal (or the ideal stack) for a whole year to fix this. I don’t want to jump around - I want to focus on healing. But I just don’t know which one to use or if I’m ready for it.

So, my questions are:

Will a name embedded “Emperor + Stop Masturbation” Sub heal my terrible self-image, fix my toxic self-talk, and create a healthy, loving, supportive, positive and hopeful inner voice? Especially around women, dating and sex?

If my Emperor/Stop Porn sub is not the ideal one for this, which Healing sub would be best for me? And as a beginner, which healing sub would I be ready for?

Part of the reason I chose Emperor is that multiple users suggest it and Ascension as good starter subs.

I read multiple posts stating that Dragon Reborn is too intense for a new user.

The multistage Dragon Red sounds amazing. But it’s probably too much for someone with virtually no prior exposure to Subclub products.

I have reread the description page for Phoenix/Rebirth and this is the healing sub that sounds the best suited for me. Is this also too much for a first time sub user?

I also read that Love Bomb is good for self-love, even more so than Love Bomb for Humanity.

Like I said, I’m willing to commit to a healing sub (or stack) for a whole year to fix this toxic mess inside of me.

How do I heal? I don’t have time to hop lilypad between different subs. What is the best title and what is the best course of action for me? I’m desperate for change, inner peace, and love.

Any insights and suggestions will be most appreciated. Thanks very much for reading.

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#2

From everything you’ve said here, Emperor is exactly what you need. Just give it time. It’s a massive sub. Playing a just a few loops isn’t enough to see significant results. You’re 52, you don’t have time to be sub hopping. You picked a great all around sub. Stick to it for as long as it takes until you see results. Maybe stack it with Phoenix. It could be rough, but who cares if you’re getting results?

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#3

In terms of healing, what are your further thoughts on these:

Sanguine
Sanguine: The Elixir
Regeneration
DR: Phoenix

Other possibilities:

Ascension
DD: True Social

Check each product description to see if there is a note about it being for advanced user.

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#4

Love Bomb + KHAN Black Stage 1

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#5

Great idea for an advanced user!

@Hezlitt how long have you been listening to SC products?

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#6

LBFH its free and has a lot of self worth, self love, and positivity. It will help tremendously with what you want. Emperor will help with everything else you’re looking for tbh. Like @ksub said, just stick with Emperor

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#7

I had a similar path in the beginning.
After a couple of loops from alpha titels I realized I need healing first.

So I did-for years

And now I am at the point where my journey begins well equipped.

My opinion for you would be to take doable steps and then progress along the way.

You are very lucky that you have this products at your hand

:wink:

I would encourage you to start Lovebomb for your inner state for a longer time. You get warm loving energy towards yourself that sooth out negative selftalk and a nearly any women responds delighted to a man that has love for himself. They just want to be around you.

Believe me in that

Then I would include Daredevil :True Social, so that you Master every social interaction like a miracle. Until it’s so normal to be outstanding social.

This combo alone will make you unique.

And then along the way you incorporate other titels that deals with Sexuality like Khan Black

Your success is on the way but it take time and dedication.

All the best to your Journey

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#8

Maybe three weeks. Less than one cycle!

I’ve barely started. This is why I’m wondering what the best path forward would be for healing. Because once I commit, I don’t want to switch around.

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#9

Thank you @Leandros

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#10

The idea of adding Love Bomb to Emperor sounds very good. Thank you @Uber_Elysium

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#11

Thanks again @RVconsultant.

I read all the descriptions from this list and did not see any warnings regarding new users. I must have been projecting based on what I’ve heard about Dragon Reborn.

From these titles, the two that sound the best for me are:

Regeneration

Phoenix: Dragon Reborn / Rebirth

@ksub made a very good case to stick with Emperor for the long haul. This sounds good to me. But pairing Emperor with a healing sub sounds even better.

I’m considering adding one of these two healing subs and stacking it with my Emperor name embedded subliminal. So a two ZP stack.

Both sound great, but not sure which is the best fit for my objective.

I’ll read some journals and reviews and make a decision soon. If you or anyone has thoughts on which of these healing subs would pair best with Emperor, please advise!

Thank you.

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#12

Thanks again @ksub. Yeah, you’re right. I’ll stay with Emperor. But will be choosing a healing subliminal to stack it with. And once I start, I’ll stick with that stack for as long as it takes.

I’ve narrowed it down to Phoenix and Regeneration. Do you have any thoughts?

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#13

Been there. 2 decades of porn addiction.
Khan Black Stage 1 did wonders. It’s miraculous.
Also, with KB, there’s no need to run the other stages. KB1 is paramount for healing porn addiction, the other stages are not needed for that endeavor.
I cut my porn abuse by approximately 90% a year before I started with KB. But I couldn’t fully let it go. Three months of KB1 changed a lot.

For the selflove part I’d recommend Love Bomb.
LBfH is similar but more outwards focused.
If you want to focus on healing your selflove, choose LB, if you want selflove and better social connections LBfH. LBfH isn’t as good for healing as LB since your creating Selflove to spread it amongst people, but also helps to create selflove.

You could also make name embedded versions of LB + Synergy: Beyond connection to get the best of both.

Emperor is a great sub, especially if you plan to start your own business.

A typical beginner mistake is to start with more than just 1 sub. I know, it’s very tempting to just get all three and run them as a stack right from the start. But it’s important to first get a feeling for Emperor, how you react to it, how recon feels etc. Only if you can identify a sub and the effects it has on you, you can determine if you should up or reduce listening time etc.

My recommendation would be to keep Emperor: Stop porn and Masturbation since you’ve started with it and already see first small results.
Since masturbation is already covered, I’d add LB next cycle for healing.
In your third cycle I would add KB1.

Also start with microloops. If you don’t know what it is, look it up. Don’t exceed 3 minutes for a few weeks. That’s best for fast results.

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#14

Thank you @Parsifal. Great points!

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#15

@Hezlitt , I agree with @Parsifal, except for the third sub. You don’t need 3 subs. 2 is more than enough if you choose them carefully. If you run three subs, your results are going to be very slow. And you’re already complaining about not seeing results!

Keep Emperor and just run KB1 as your healing sub. Put blinders on and run that stack until the end of the year. That’s about 7 or 8 rounds. After that, look at the results that you have and you’d have more clarity to pick your next sub. I ran Emperor for 2 years straight. It was life changing. Do yourself a favor stick to two subs.

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#16

Wow, okay. Sounds great. I’m fine with a 2 sub stack. And I’m a “buy and hold” guy so I’m happy to keep running the same subs for deep and long term benefits.

You’d recommend KB1 as the healing sub over Phoenix or Regeneration?

#17

Yes, I re-read the description and it seems to specifically address sexuality issues, therefore porn and masturbation. :point_down: :point_down:

STAGE I – Ignition of the Inner Flame:

The first stage of The Crucible is an intense and transformative healing process. This stage delves deep into your psyche, targeting and repairing any traumas, insecurities, or limiting beliefs surrounding your sexual energy and sexuality. As you immerse yourself in this healing stage, you will feel the shackles that once bound you to mediocrity shatter, and a newfound sense of freedom will surge through your being.

Ignition of the Inner Flame will cleanse and purify your energetic channels, ensuring that your newly liberated sexual energy can flow freely and without obstruction. This stage sets the foundation for the incredible journey ahead, preparing you for the immense power you are about to wield. In this stage, you’ll start to notice more organic sexual attraction from those you’re interested in. They’ll know that there’s something different about you, but can’t figure out what.

This will also be an excellent subliminal to use for anyone who desires to fully focus on healing themselves of any and all sexual limitations and negative beliefs, as the pure focus of this stage serves as an excellent healing subliminal for sexuality in general.

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#18

Yeah, that sounds amazing. Thank you @ksub

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#19

Hey, I dove in to KB1, trying to learn more about it and I read this:

“Artisanal products are a line of products intended solely for advanced users and experimenters”

This makes me think I should pair Emperor with something a bit more accessible, like Phoenix or Regeneration. I’ll keep researching for the idea Healing sub to stack with Emperor but I think Khan Black stage 1 is going to be too much for me, being so new to this.

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#20

@Hezlitt I forgot about that. Then go for Phoenix but just stick to it for the long run.

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