Please Help Pick The Best Healing Sub For A Newbie

Don’t get intimidated by that.
I started KB after 4 months of Emperor because I knew if I don’t get my porn addiction in check, I’ll loose my fiancee for good.
Just stay on stage 1. Stage 1 was healing, only the later stages were challenging.

I’d also invite @Viktor to share his opinion on 2 vs 3 subs, and on running subs for a long time vs changing them after some time.
You need to know that Viktor is one of the most consistent subs users we have in the forum.
I don’t think I know anyone who has run less subs than him over the years because he’s so consistent in his sub use.

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As someone has already mentioned Emperor together with LB or LBFH might help you ease of the porn thing.

For now I would avoid any of sexual charged product such as Khan Black. For now I would personally focus on the two mentioned products.

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I come from the far side of “no overload at all cost” as it allows me to focus on my goals.
So my approach is more on the side of caution.

My sweetspot is 2 subs.
Using 3 subs with equal exposure feels too convoluted.

But I don’t shy away from 3.
The strategy that I found works best for me is to use the first 2 subs normally, and only use the third 2-4 times a month. It’s as comfortable as using only 2 without as much burden of using 3 equally.

I also arrange them in a priority hierarchy.

Pick a sub that you want to prioritize and stick with it.
That way you can experiment using the other slots as you like.

The second slot is great for your short term goals.
Life constantly changes and can be unpredictable.
It’s nice if your stack is able to cater to that too.

Definitely run them as long as possible.
Unless you have a very good reason to switch, hold.

Though, I’ve been exploring the potential benefits of using a sub for 4-6 months, and then taking a break from it for 1-3 months. I’ve found intriguing early results from this, but i need more data before making it a wider recommendation.


The others have given great recommendations for what sub to use. You’ll do great following them.

I haven’t tried Emperor, but i can vouch for LBFH + DRLD for your goals based on my personal experience with them.

There are a lot of testimonies about DRLD’s power in reducing porn & masturbation. Including my own.
While LBFH, alongside LB, are just a beast at dealing with those things you want to fix.

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Id say Elixir mixed with Khan black. Those two would do great for this from my experience.

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Understandable. Thinking about something like this can take time and patience. Careful consideration.

This is why it’s important to read the product description page carefully.

Now another phenomenon that is possible is that the healing title might take precedence over other titles, such as Emperor. In other word, although you notice benefits from Emperor, you might notice many more from DR: Phoenix.

I would encourage you to start with one and notice what happens. When you start noticing some results, then perhaps consider adding another.

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Exactly as @RVconsultant said

PHOENIX will be the dominant sub that overpowers Emperor.

If you like to go with Phoenix then stop Emperor and include Lovebomb, run them as long as you feel/know that you are ready to go back to Emperor

All the best to your Journey @Hezlitt

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@Hezlitt

There’s another idea in @Leandros post above.

I would encourage you to think about starting with one and then consider whether or not to add another as you start to notice results.

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@Hezlitt

As @RVconsultant said

:grin:

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Regarding your goals you made the perfect desicion. But keep in mind that Emperor as a whole is not a fast acting subliminal. If you stick to it for you’re intended five months you will see and feel the difference in your life.

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Thanks for this epic response, @Viktor. So much value here!

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Thank you @Leandros :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thanks @TheRock , this is the kind of info I need to hear as someone who’s trying to plan ahead.

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I was going to suggest Love Bomb for the self worth / self image issues you mentioned.

I have been running it since it was updated (over a year now) as a main store title or in a custom, and it’s helped me so much in that regard.

Genesis Art of Happiness & Joy could also help A LOT with this.

People don’t realize that loving yourself starts with accepting yourself, and that sub has that type of scripting in SPADES.

It’s genuinely a game changer.

I also saw someone recommend Khan Black Stage 1. Honestly… don’t let the artisan tag scare you away from it. If you read the description and it calls out to you, I say go for it.

Healing sexual issues and the way you relate to your own sexuality is obviously top of mind, so I say KB1 is worth serious consideration.

If I were to give you a suggestion, it would be -

  1. Keep your Emperor custom
  2. Add Genesis Happiness Joy
  3. Add Khan Black Stage 1 for a few cycles, then finish out all the stages

If you dedicate yourself to the above stack for the rest of this year (like 2 cycles each stage off KB), your life will be different come 2026. SIGNIFICANTLY different

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The synergies between KB, Emperor, Stop Masturbating & Porn module, and Genesis Happiness Joy, could be absolutely IMMENSE.

Lots of interconnectivity and cross-support here between these subs

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This makes good sense. Looks like I must first decide what’s my biggest pain point, then commit to the sub that will prioritize and address that.

Thanks @RVconsultant.

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So, eventually, a 3 sub stack? Or phase out Genesis for KB1?

I really like the idea of LoveBomb. Between LB and Genesis, which would you say has the potent self-love and self-acceptance benefits?

This sounds so good, I could weep. Thanks for the great recommendations, @Prioritas!

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If you feel comfortable with the idea, and you are up for the challenge, which I think you are based on how much massive action you are taking going out actually approaching women (NO SMALL FEAT MY FRIEND!!), then I’d say you can go into the the 3 sub stack from the start.

It won’t be easy, and you’ll likely have lots of shit coming up right away, as these 3 subs would be striking at the core of your insecurities and issues with yourself, but if you are open to change and want to grow, this seems to me an accelerated pathway.

If you’d rather stick to a 2 sub stack, I’d say phasing out Genesis for KB would be a good roadmap. Or if you want to start at a more reasonable pace, then yeah add Genesis now, and KB later when you feel the time is right.

Weep in joy my friend, and rejoice, as you are undertaking the rare experience of being reborn within the same earthly life. The transformation you’re seeking is noble, and so the strength to accomplish all you need will be given to you if you find yourself lacking it at any point. However I have the sneaking suspicion you’re stronger than even you imagine.

Much food for thought. I’ll consider this. Genesis does sound nice. May be a good first supplemental sub.

Yes, for me now, it’s pure masochism. Painful. The thing that makes it so grueling is the frigid and annoyed reactions from women. Which are, in large part, reactions to my own energy and inner beliefs.

If I had freedom, joy and self-love inside of me, approaching attractive women would be a joy! And their reactions would be completely irrelevant. But most likely much friendlier.

What a wonderful thing to read, my friend. Thank you very much :slight_smile:

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Exactly, because then you’d be shifting your mindset from “I want her to react positively to me so she can relieve me of my self-perception as XYZ negative self image” TOWARDS “I feel so good and happy about my self and my life, and I want to bless this beautiful woman with some of my joy and maybe brighten her day if she is open to it”

Where you are GIVING instead of trying to TAKE

I know it sounds harsh, but I am in the same place right now, where when I talk to a beautiful woman my default mode is to WANT WANT WANT her validation, which people can sense energetically

Having joy springing forth from the fount of our inner sense of self and our perception of our lives, can bless others and magnetize them to us in unimaginable ways

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Very well put! I think we’re ultimately looking for the same emotional goals - inspired by attractive women as usual, LOL.

So what are your subliminal titles to help you get to a place of self-love and GIVING instead of TAKING?

LoveBomb? Genesis? KB1? And what has been your progress on that path?