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[RockyHandsome]

@Jade8

Women and men have value during their whole lifetime. It doesn’t diminish just because one comes to a certain age. That mindset stigmatizes women and men into becoming “unwanted” or undesirable because of their age. That is complete BS. @TheEmpress people can find love at all stages of their life. When you find someone desirable and go for it, that’s courage. That’s not because your “pool” is small. Go for who you want.

Joe is a little… directionally challenged in the dating world. Not emotionally lost like a Jane Austen character—more like a guy trying to navigate with a GPS that only speaks Klingon.

He doesn’t know what he wants. A girlfriend? A situationship? A woman who can bake sourdough and bench press him? No clue. And as for what to believe? Well, Joe treats dating advice like a buffet, he piles on everything, even if it doesn’t go together.

One night, fueled by instant noodles and existential loneliness, Joe dives headfirst into YouTube. He stumbles onto a playlist titled Become a Super ALPHA Male Today curated by a guy with a bald head wearing dark shades, flexing while drinking a whisky and smoking a cigar.

The videos all say the same thing:

• “Date younger women. Like… much younger.”
• “Women in their 30s have expired eggs.”
• “If she remembers dial-up internet, she’s not ‘high value.’”

Joe pauses, furrows his brow, and then does the thing all confused men do, nods like he’s just uncovered a lost scroll of ancient wisdom.

“Ahhh. Now I know,” he whispers, like he’s solved the Da Vinci Code.

The next day, Joe starts preaching his new gospel with the subtlety of a guy shouting on the london underground.

“Bro, never date women your own age. Science, bro. Biology. Their eggs are basically dust!”

When his friends point out that Joe can barely keep a succulent alive, let alone raise a child, he scoffs.

“That’s not the point. It’s about optics. If she’s not 25, I’m not alive.”

He now exclusively dates women who think Friends is a vintage show and who ask what a fax machine is. One date asked if Nirvana was a type of incense.

Poor Joe. He doesn’t realize he’s just traded confusion for delusion.

But hey—he’s out there. With confidence. With questionable ethics. And probably with a YouTube Premium subscription.

[Akephalos]

The opposite spectrum of this is type of Forrest Gump standing at the end of a very, very, very long line of naked men but Forrest is in a suit with a box of chocolates and flowers and a ring.
He won in the end right? xd

[Judoka]

+1

But i think paragon will be updated first as parts of that will then be included in spartan,lots paragon sleep and maybe rob

[Jade8]

You are a very good storyteller

[SaintSovereign]

Updates:

@SaintSovereign

Eureka.

There will be an experimental version of Daredevil: True Social testing what — if we’re right — the biggest breakthrough in subliminal audio history.

EDIT: The idea itself is completely sound and validated by science itself. The question is how to implement it.

@SaintSovereign

The end goal is the total elimination of recon. How it will perform in the experimental? That’s left to be seen. It’s a small implementation of the full idea, which hopefully will come to fruition with Zero Point Union.

@SaintSovereign

Also, with the new ZPU scripting, we could technically push Daredevil: True Social down to 10 - 12 minute loops. We MIGHT test it with the experimental, but if we see people trying to overexpose due to the lower time, we’ll have to push it back up to 15.

[GoldenTiger]

Excited for GLM, strong titles for men who have a not so good relationship with masculinity.

Keeping my eyes peeled on the forum to learn more about futures development.

[SaintSovereign]

Early box reveal:

Main Hype / Dev. Thread - Daredevil: True Social

We’re in the end game now. Early box reveal: [image]

[NinjaFox]

guys no overexposing yourself, forward always backward never. Time for no more recon. Am already getting great results with my custom in my own voice

[Akephalos]

Wow thats insane.
I thought v2max nse was the peak for next couple of years but you innovate new tech so fast, amazing

[Akephalos]

Wanted og and khan black with newest tech zpu damn looking forward to that.

[Judoka]

I’v just been thinking of this,if paragon sleep gets upgraded to the point where you only need 2-4 hours of sleep then you stack it with emperor black you could be working on your craft for around 20+ hours a day.

After a month you could have around 500+ hours into whatever it is you were working on blowing your competition out of the water who are unable to replicate your focus and unneedines of sleep.

After 12 months it could be 5,000+ hours,after 24 months you could be an expert

[ksub]

@Judoka

paragon sleep gets upgraded to the point where you only need 2-4 hours of sleep

@Judoka

you could be working on your craft for around 20+ hours a day.

This is crazy talk!

I VERY HIGHLY doubt that Sub Club would EVER release a product that implies that you only need 2 - 4 hours of sleep knowing how heavy the legal implications are.
There are decades of scientific research showing that you need enough sleep for your brain and body to even function normally. 2 to 4 hours is NOWHERE near enough.

Listen, instead of trying to sleep less, aim to learn to prioritize better and learn how to work more efficiently so you can get things done and get enough sleep.
You train judo right? Show me one judo teacher, one sports expert or one expert in any field that says that little sleep is the way to go.

@Judoka

unneedines of sleep

There is no such thing as unneeded sleep. You’re just going hurt yourself! Be careful!

[GoldenBird]

Why we sleep, aside from the most superficial biological reasons, is not even entirely understood. To want to “maximize” your productivity by cutting down on time asleep is just the kind of talk you find with modern productivity gurus on youtube.

There have been individuals in history that have barely slept, but I urge you not to mess with things that aren’t even entirely understood yet.

[Judoka]

Iv just read reviews of people who have practiced buteyko breathing and become experts that have reduced their sleep need to 2 hours,wich is why i asked and peolple on the raw primal diet who only need to sleep around 5 hours plus theres people who genetically only need around 4 hours of sleep,its not like were going against the laws of pyhsics here, people on the kb forum report less sleep too.

Just throwing my crazy ideas out there “what if i only needed 2-4 hours of sleep”

Sleep Less (4.5 Hours Only) and Better Naturally

Please just take an open minded approach first without thinking its crazy

[GoldenBird]

@Judoka

After a month you could have around 500+ hours into whatever it is you were working on blowing your competition out of the water who are unable to replicate your focus and unneedines of sleep.

After 12 months it could be 5,000+ hours,after 24 months you could be an expert

It’s not a question of being open-minded or bringing up ideas. You gotta ask yourself where you get that kind of thinking from and how it meshes with life in general. Out of curiousity, have you ever read of somebody thinking like that in pre-modern times? Have you looked into possible theories about why we sleep and what can be done in sleep? Why do you need to blow your competition out of the water through working longer than they do? I don’t know about you, but with these kind of thoughts, I can hear Rockefeller and Ford cackling in the background, this is the mindset they’d have loved to instill in their workers.

[Parsifal]

There’s so much about sleep we don’t understand yet.

Just two anecdotal points from me:

1. I tried polyphasic sleeping for a couple of months. I got along pretty well with just 4 hours split in 4 parts.
   The extrem schedules even propose 2h are enough if you keep the schedule religiously.
   The inventor of this schedule got old. But he was a successful business man so was able to set his schedule accordingly so he could sleep 30 minutes every six hours.
   As I said above it worked, but over time, I just missed sleeping longer without an alarm waking me up so I returned to 8h straight.

2. When I was carnivore, my need for sleep dropped to 6 hours max. And I was much more energetic compared to before.

So I believe with the right nutrition and sleeping schedule it’s possible to reduce sleep tremendously without risking your mental or physical health.
If subs alone can do it, I don’t know. But they could help.

[Judoka]

It cant be that hard for subliminal technology to try to atleast reduce our need for sleep by a couple hours right? Is pyhsical shifting harder than needing less sleep? I know its ambitous but its been proven by certified medical doctors and has been done by many people naturally(look at what i linked above) but im not gonna pester for it but would like for it to be taken into consideration or discussed after all subliminal clubs motto is “become legendary” and the idea of subliminals themselves are crazy,

Maybe an experimental to speed up the processes of sleep?

Also 1/3 of our life is spent sleeping if you sleep 8 hours a day or around 26 years,its a high return on investment if you can manage to sleep less as you are gaining years of your life back pretty much

[Akephalos]

Energetic practices also help with needing less sleep

[SaintSovereign]

Sleep exists for a reason. No one really quite knows that reason. Paragon Sleep optimizes your sleeping, which sometimes means you appear to need less sleep since whatever the body needs from it is achieved quicker. That’s as far as we’re willing to go regarding sleep. We will optimize but never try to directly reduce sleep.

[Fire]

@Judoka

Iv just read reviews of people who have practiced buteyko breathing and become experts that have reduced their sleep need to 2 hours,wich is why i asked and peolple on the raw primal diet who only need to sleep around 5 hours plus theres people who genetically only need around 4 hours of sleep,its not like were going against the laws of pyhsics here, people on the kb forum report less sleep too.

Just because people are sleeping less, doesn’t mean their systems are working better. Furthermore, it’s a common mistake for people who experience greater energy to try and lower their intake of healthy food, sleep or water - you should be continuing all three at optimal levels, as you need all three for optimal functioning.

On an energetic level you are greatly unbalancing yourself by not sleeping enough, which you will have to pay for one way or another.

Or…

You can just get enough sleep.