The wall is UNDEFEATED.
Women and men have value during their whole lifetime. It doesn’t diminish just because one comes to a certain age. That mindset stigmatizes women and men into becoming “unwanted” or undesirable because of their age. That is complete BS. @TheEmpress people can find love at all stages of their life. When you find someone desirable and go for it, that’s courage. That’s not because your “pool” is small. Go for who you want.
What you want has to want you in return, and you’re not the only one after it. In the end, it all come down to competition. Beyond a certain age, the men you want simply don’t find you as attractive as someone 10 or 15 years younger. You can rationalize it however you like, but the cold, hard truth remains.
I’ve had men of all ages find me to be extremely attractive at my age. I get told I look much younger actually. My former bf was a few years younger than me and he was super attracted to me.
I had a young man in his 20s pursuing me last year. He continues to like my photos on socials too.
I agree with this
Mindset is everything.
My daughter chided me once for calling an 18yo cute. She said “You’re old enough to almost be her grandfather. Ewwww.”
She’s got this thing where she has a lot of gay friends and always says the “Love is love” line.
So I said “Love is love, right?”
She said “NOT the same thing!”
I told her to fuck off.
It’s kind of weird to turn this into a debate about “value.” No one here said women lose value as they age. That’s something you’re bringing into the conversation. It’s like saying a man’s worth is only based on his bank account. Most people agree that a person’s value isn’t tied to any of that.
What we’re actually talking about is what men find attractive in women. And for most guys, age and looks play a big role. That has nothing to do with a woman’s worth as a person. It’s just about attraction.
So let me ask you this, @TheEmpress : why are you linking age to value when no one else did? Do you, deep down, connect your own worth to your age and appearance? Because men don’t. To us, a woman’s personal value and her attractiveness are two separate things. When it comes to dating, most guys just focus on what they’re attracted to. And the truth is, most men find a 25-year-old woman more attractive than a 40-year-old one.
I get that it’s tough to admit that dating for women gets harder with age. Maybe that’s why some women try to shift the conversation to “value” (like @Jade8 did). But at the end of the day, most guys are naturally more drawn to younger women. Of course, there are always exceptions.
I’m not linking age to value. Someone else brought that in as a response to my original thoughts above regarding chasing men.
Here is the response that came after mine that led into everything else.
I think it would be best not to make blanket statements about men and women.
I’m just adding my own 2 cents. This is a touchy subject but we can gather different perspectives and hopefully and respectfully learn from it.
I’m sorry but I couldn’t help myself.
What fiddlesticks you’re saying, mate. lol
Just a description of social dynamics! Nothing more! The dating scene is tough for women a certain age! I didn’t create that reality. I’m just an observer!
I would have agreed if you had said 25 years younger but even then, some women are exceptional like Madame de Pompadour, for example.
No wonder, girl. You’re going to have them on their knees with the new Seductress. I already envy them.
Bro! 40 - 25 = 15, 35 - 25 = 10, 30 - 25 = 5.
You’re entering criminal activity zone right there.
I see your point though!
I’m borrowing this phrase for IRL use. Thank you so much!
They are probably running Wanted Black.
I think it’s human nature. I imagine, and have seen, women put themselves in the path of men they are attracted to. Some women do it subtly, some directly, some vulnerabley, some aggressively. It depends on their style, comfort, and confidence.
I’m 100% for woman going after the men there interested in.
Just because a man is pursued does not make him less masculine, and just because a woman pursues doesn’t make her less feminine. It’s the flavor of the pursuee/pursuit that defines that.
Do agree older women generally speaking play less mind games and are more straight to the point.
Another thing is if you want to settle down into a relatiomship. Its best to be with someone who shares your world. A woman in her 20s is hardly going to understand the world of a man in his 50s.
Obviously there can be exceptions to the rules.
I am guessing it will be designed to work well with either bdlm or S&S like WB ?
I was talking with my female friend how much i liked women being more direct and taking a proactive approach to showing attraction and flirting with a man but she said its because they are female version of “beta” not as desirable as other girls that get chased by massive amount of men so they dont pursue themselves.
Which made me reflect on this.
Based on my experiences i dont believe that is the case but thats just me
Hmm… the New Seductress today or tomorrow:
I wonder what about the New Wanted then…
There are also True Social and Executive coming.