Main Dev. / Hype Thread -- The New Seductress (Coming Soon)

@IRON

Consider looking at the lyrics again and focus on the imagery. This song is actually a short treatise on the nature of desire, and how it can sweep people into moments of passion. Notice how the narrator / singer is clearly in complete control of the interaction, using incredible charm to draw in their lover. But this is just the external form of an inner process.

What does this imply? Mastery of her own desire, freedom to choose how she expresses herself regardless of what society thinks, or wants, she wants her night of pleasure, and she will have it. And as I stated in multiple threads, this goes beyond sexuality.

Seductress is a title about mastery. Not to mention, this song, like every song received the “archetype” treatment, meaning you are looking at a very heightened archetypal interaction rather than some kind of feminist or patriarchal commentary.

The goal — as with all art — was to trigger an emotional response prompting the listener to evaluate and explore the self. Is the song really just “men writing women badly,” or is there more that’s being missed due to an internal assumption or deeply ingrained belief serving as a mental lens that colors the reaction to the song.

For example, the following lines:

I shouldn’t be a temptation
Because the leaves should heal the nations

Is a metaphorical reference to the divine marriage at the end of the the Book of Revelation, in which divinity and and the material world is no longer in opposition, but rather merged and operating as a unified whole, imagery that suggests the uniting of “yin and yang,” of mastery of both your inner and outer worlds, meaning this Seductress is now striving reaching toward mastery, and she can use her charisma to heal, or she may indulge and enjoy the sensual pleasures of life.

Whatever path she chooses, it will be decided by her:

Baby, we ain’t got nothing to blame
And I ain’t holding my head in shame
Since it’s all the same
Day in, day out, but you can take away my pain

Instead of seeing this as an interaction between a man and a woman over a romantic proposition, what happens if you instead view it from the lens of the Seductress speaking to the sides of herself that she has felt forced to neglect.

Whether that’s the part of her that has craved business success but feels society has oppressed her, or the sexual side that she has never felt free to explore because society has placed stigmas on women enjoying something as quintessential as sex.

Regardless, this Seductress is essentially “seducing” herself, and she will have her way.

Don’t worry, Seductress is not what everyone thinks. It’s either going to hit the mark or bomb out. Very polarizing and bold. And coming in a few days. :slight_smile:

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fair enough! I didnt look that deeply into the lyrics. And youre right Im absolutely putting out there something that I see through my own lenses. I wrongly assumed what you guys were going for and even after that its up to the listener to see the best in the song and generally in all sorts of things around us. It can be understood and enjoyed in many diverse ways.

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Very nice :ok_hand:

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Well, it’s a good thing that you are viewing things through your unique lens, as this is a great opporunity for you to engage in deep self-reflection. By this, I’m not saying that your viewpoint is “wrong,” and you also raised some great discussion / contemplation questions and topics. Instead, I mean that when strong emotions arise, that’s ALWAYS a good time to go a bit deeper.

As for the title itself, we believe we’re going to deliver. Everything was made with balance AND exploration in mind. This Seductress will leave an impression all she meets.

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Is today the day? It’s been a few days since it was mentioned being released in a few days.

😮‍💨😅

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Today or tomorrow. :slight_smile:

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I’m doing my best to wait for its release to begin a new listening cycle. 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

Eager beaver over here! :joy:

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Eager to see the copy for me :ok_hand::100:

There must have been some good rewrite to seductress, here is a message from SaintSovereign a month ago in the seductress dark thread :

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Yeah. We’re late again. Going to need another day, possibly two, but it’s going to be worth it. We had some late ideas that we absolutely needed to incorporate. However, since it’s so close to release and I know some of you / your partners are planning on run this and would like to start planning, we’re going to release the finished box and EARLY copy. Note that it’s not completed and all the features haven’t been included, and there may be typos:

SYMMETRY: SEDUCTRESS:

se·duce

/səˈdo͞os/

To allure with transcendent grace, to summon the essence of power in a dance with the infinite.

A cold night of loneliness, not necessarily because of a lack of the ability to attract a warm body to lie next to her, but because at the edge of her consciousness, she knows there is more to life than what she can see in the mirror. And she realizes.

She can never truly see herself, can she? Even the mirror is just a reflection. It is not the true her. Just a shadow against a reflective material.

And as she strolls down shadowed streets, the weight of judgments wraps around her like a tightening vine. She notices the man watching only the slit in her mini-skirt as she passes, creating illusionary fantasies of her based upon the tiniest hint of skin.

The clerk at the coffee shop can’t even look in her eyes, lost in his baser desires, imagining all the ways he can use her body just to enrich himself.

“Am I even a human to you?” she questions in her mind.

And he feels her energy, her pain, shooting back a defiant look conveying a very clear message: “That depends, will you open your legs for me?”

In the clamor of a world too eager to define her by shallow measures — colleagues who questioned her intellect with whispered accusations, family members whose expectations choked her yearning for a purpose beyond the mundane — she feels the air growing thin around her.

Night descends, and in its profound stillness, she closes her eyes, ready to let the old self dissolve in the darkness. But the sun always rises. And so does she.

She rises.

She rises beyond the turbulent seas of fleeting desire and the oppressive clamor of societal confinement. And she becomes the embodiment of calm sovereignty. Here, living within the simplicity of her pure truth, she has mastered the art of being.

Her touch upon the world is deliberate, gentle as a ripple upon still water; she dips her toes into the vast ocean of desire only when her heart deems it ripe and on her sacred terms.

No longer does the crude murmur of restraint hold dominion over her spirit. She awakens to a realm of possibility — where her deep wisdom and powerful intentions are spun into reality and every moment blossoms with potential.

She exists.

Defined not by the mirror’s praise of her outer beauty — though inward and out, she shimmers like stardust — but because she has ascended into the realm of the conscious, the intentional creator of her destiny.

She is an enigma wrapped in the mystery and beauty of the universe, she seduces not with artifice, but with the profound allure of self-realization and inner truth. She is both the siren, and the call.

Because she sings.

She sings to the world: “Come to me, and you will experience something new and true.” Her voice, both nurturing and fierce, awakens the soul to the beauty of its own potential.

And she sings of revelation — of within and without — a melody that calls forth the fires of pleasure, passion, desire, creativity, art, and wisdom within.

And she exalts. Oh, how she exalts — rising in the unity of joy, grace and defiance that shatters the mundane, and brings forth an inner light in all around her.

For all those who encounter her — regardless of how and where — will know that they have truly experienced a defining moment in their lives.

With her, “seduction” transforms from unrefined desire and into the interplay between herself and reality, as she invites all who encounter her to step into the radiance of their own becoming.

For indulging in raw passion is to open a doorway to uncharted realms of pleasure— a fierce exploration of the senses that awakens hidden corners of desire.

Yet, the true seductress, a master of both mystery and mastery, offers something far more profound. She smiles at you, and the boundaries between flesh and fantasy blur, and you are transported to a realm where every moment is a journey within.

She is the catalyst.

She is the modern Cleopatra, an incarnation of raw ecstasy that blurs the lines between divine rapture and unforgettable nights of pleasure. In every arena she enters — corporate, the gym, the bedroom, or any stage society dares to offer — she reigns supreme, mastering her domain with unwavering confidence.

One truth remains immutable: She will have her way.

Welcome to Symmetry: Seductress.

First and foremost, for those who have used Seductress in the past — yes, this title does contain the same physical shifting and physical enhancement features as before, now elevated by the groundbreaking precision of Zero Point technologies and innovative scripting methods. Yes, Symmetry: Seductress is created with our “tools-based” framework in mind — one that serves as the foundation for the upcoming Zero Point Union format.

Imagine sculpting your ideal form — and whether that aligns with society’s image of “beauty” is up to you — achieving perfect body proportions tailored to your deepest desires. Envision the graceful shaping of your waist, breasts, stomach, and buttocks—each curve artfully defined as if carved by a master artist — yourself.

Your hair, whether it cascades in luxurious waves or is styled to your exact preference, transforms into a crown of perfection that reflects both strength and elegance.

Revel in the clarity of your skin and the resilience of nails that exude health and vitality. Experience the touch of firm, rejuvenated skin as cellulite diminishes, revealing the smooth canvas of your true beauty.

But Symmetry: Seductress will help you enhance your daily rituals, refine your makeup application, and uncover the look that resonates with your inner goddess. Immerse yourself in enriched skin routines and embrace a balanced hygiene that harmonizes your body and spirit, all self guided.

Symmetry: Seductress helps you truly treat your body like a temple, a sacred self space where you celebrate and perfect every facet of your beauty the way YOU want. But we all know that beauty will draw those who will subject you to the projections of their lust, and that kind of constant attention can drain you of vitality.

That’s why we’ve included scripting to help you develop a strong resilience against those who would do this, helping you to understand that you have the right to express your beauty without being reduced to a mere object of other people’s fantasies.

This scripting will help heighten your intuition, allowing you to easily determine who admires your beauty, but truly sees you as a unique expression of an infinite universe, and those who simply want to use you to fulfill their own dreams.

But the transformation is not solely skin-deep. Prepare to experience a massive growth of your confidence and self-esteem — a liberation that radiates from within. Embrace a sense of freedom, an unshakable knowing that you can achieve whatever you desire.

Expect your body language to transform into a dance of grace and poise—each gesture deliberate, a silent manifesto of elegance. Yet, when the moment demands, that very elegance can ignite into an aura of power and defiance, radiating strength that challenges the very air around her. This Seductress, a masterful architect of both mind and body, harnesses every subtle nuance of her being to turn dreams into tangible realities.

When she speaks, a hush falls over the room. Her voice — soft and inviting as a warm summer night caressing the shore. carries an effortless melody that soothes the soul. Yet, there are times when her tone shifts; it deepens into a grave, resolute cadence that commands attention, as if each word were a carefully crafted decree. And yes, we’ve included all of this within the scripting. Why?

Because she will have her way.

And yes, since we know everyone’s wondering, that same scripting extends to the bedroom. Those who are blessed enough to spend an intimate night with this Seductress will base all future encounters on this one. She is the master of touch, her fingers will send bolts of pleasure through your body. She is the master of the kiss, the caress, the gaze. Her glistening, perfect skin will send you to the moon, Don Quixote riding off into the sunset to fight whatever windmill that would bring him back to her.

Yes, in addition to romance and intimacy scripting exclusive Symmetry: Seductress, we’ve included scripting from Revelation of the Nectar within and Primal Nights to send your nights into new levels. And yes — that includes the aura that — in accordance with their own free will — entices the user to “eat the peach.” But, we took a step up. We also included “multi-climax” scripting that helps the Seductress control when she finishes, or she can simply melt into the sensation and let destiny guide.

Why? Because she will have her way.

She has her way in the boardroom, or at whatever career you want to excel at, since we’ve included scripting just for that. While this scripting isn’t as in-depth as the wealth building titles, Symmetry: Seductress is designed to synergize with them in a very profound way — especially A Stark Black Reality. Together, this stack will help her become a fusion of mastery and beauty in any arena she enters.

But, for those who want to enjoy a simpler life still charged with success, the wealth and entrepreneur scripting included will definitely help you achieve your dreams, whether that’s owning a business or raising up in your career. For those who are regular users of Subliminal Club titles, consider the wealth scripting on a level between Ascension and Emperor — but even that comparison is a bit misleading, as Symmetry: Seductress is very similar in structure and design to Emperor. In fact, it is not an understatement to say that Symmetry: Seductress could very well serve as the “Emperor” for those who want to run it.

Take a look at all of the included features:

I Am the Seductress:

Empowers you to harness your innate value, radiating unapologetic standards and self-assured brilliance in every facet of your life. Your unwavering commitment to excellence naturally magnetizes high-quality people, transformative experiences, and boundless opportunities, turning each interaction into a celebration of your influence. As you embody the essence of a high-value woman, every moment becomes a stepping stone toward deeper personal fulfillment and professional triumph, proving that when you truly know your worth, the world is compelled to recognize and mirror your excellence.

Perpetual Growth:

Empowers you to step into next-level living, where perpetual growth transforms every aspect of your existence. Your environment, relationships, opportunities, and success naturally evolve to mirror your highest vision, creating a world that refines itself in tandem with your aspirations. As each area of your life upgrades effortlessly, you find that every connection deepens, every chance blossoms into a breakthrough, and your surroundings reflect the pinnacle of who you are becoming.

The Art of Effortless Attraction:

Helps you harness your magnetic presence, unspoken allure, and the energy of confidence, making your very essence a light for others, including those who would be romantically attracted to you. As you move through your day with an innate, refined charm and beauty, others will be drawn to you. Practically, this feature can be used to enhance your personal and professional interactions, whether it’s commanding a room at a networking event or effortlessly engaging in intimate, meaningful conversations — allowing you to connect authentically and leave a lasting impression wherever you go.

Radiance Unleashed:

A daily transformation where your reflection becomes a living testament to your inner brilliance. Each morning, your skin shimmers with vitality, your hair exudes luminous health, and your style evolves naturally into an embodiment of your most stunning self, effortlessly aligning with the vision of beauty you hold dear. This feature allows you to step into every day with renewed confidence, ensuring that whether you’re facing a high-stakes meeting or a social gathering, your elevated appearance acts as a powerful catalyst for success and self-assurance.

Grace in Motion:

Helps instill a refined sense of grace in every movement you make, blending fluidity, poised posture, and an unspoken confidence into a seamless expression of beauty. As you navigate your day, this elegance becomes your signature, enabling you to command attention in any room — from a rousing speech at work to an intimate dinner — ensuring that every step you take is a silent statement of your empowered presence and refined taste.

The Language of Allure:

Transforms your voice into a silky instrument of seduction, where every word is delivered with precision and magnetic charm. Practically, this feature enables you to captivate audiences in any setting — be it leading a critical business presentation or engaging in a heart-to-heart conversation — ensuring that your intonation and commanding presence draws listeners in and also leaves an indelible impression of irresistible allure.

The Scent of Mastery and Desire:

The Scent of Influence helps you cultivate a captivating fragrance that leaves an indelible mark wherever you go. This may be accomplished by helping you discover what perfumes and scents fit you perfectly, curated by the situation where this is necessary. You may find that you are discovering new soaps, hair washes, etc. that helps boost your own confidence, and draws others in like a moth to a flame.

Unshakable Self-Worth:

Emanates from within, a core of confidence that never falters nor seeks validation from the outside world. It is the steadfast belief in your own value —a force that anchors you against every storm and every fleeting opinion. Practically, this feature empowers you to navigate life’s challenges with a resilient spirit, ensuring that whether you’re negotiating a pivotal deal or simply engaging in everyday conversations, your inner strength shines through, unimpeded by the need for external affirmation.

Fashion That Empowers:

Helps you transform every outfit into an expression of your true self, where each garment is carefully chosen to reflect the uniqueness. Expect your style to accentuate your best features, resonating seamlessly with the confidence that courses through you. Practically, this feature allows you to step out into the world wearing a manifestation of your true self — regardless of whether you’re making a bold statement at a professional gathering or simply exuding effortless charm on a casual day. Your wardrobe becomes a powerful ally in conveying your authenticity and unyielding strength.

The Power of Seduction:

Helps awakens you to the magnetic energy of your desires but also invites you to embrace your sexuality as a beautiful and empowering part of your identity. In nurturing this intimate awareness, moments of honor the natural interplay between consent, body, mind, and spirit — a celebration of authentic self-expression and mutual respect. Your sexuality becomes a force for deep connection with yourself and others (if you choose), whether through encounters that acknowledge the profound beauty of shared vulnerability, or nights of raw passion helping you to release the stresses of the world.

Eat the Peach:

Well. In accordance with with the free will scripting… they’re going to want to absolutely dine on the peach like it’s the best cobbler they’ve ever had. Some of that real slippity sloppity, “it shouldn’t feel this great,” “tf we gone have to put these sheets in the dryer” kinda peach eating. They’re gonna shine that peach like a diamond while your eyes roll back in your head, knowing you deserve every moment. And since we’re all adults here, once the body language scripting kicks in, take a moment to gaze into the eyes of the peach eater. Watch them go crazy.

Wealth Generation For Women in the Modern World:

Helps you redefine success by merging intellect with the power of feminine allure. In a landscape that has long underestimated women, you naturally attract opportunities to expand your wealth, challenging outdated stereotypes with both brains and body. Embracing every facet of your essence, you transform the notion of wealth into a multidimensional art — and your sensuality becomes a strategic asset, a potent symbol of empowerment rather than mere aesthetics. In this modern era, money flows to you with ease, as you harness your unique energy to turn discrimination into determination and prejudice into progress. You become a declaration of your inherent worth, a bold statement that women can and will generate wealth on their own terms.

Career Success For Women in the Modern World:

Elevates your professional journey by sharpening your skills and radiating confidence in every endeavor. As you master your field with precision, your presence becomes inspiration for all, naturally setting you apart in competitive environments. Whether you’re spearheading innovative projects, inspiring colleagues, or negotiating pivotal deals, your unique blend of expertise and self-assurance commands respect and creates new opportunities. This refined career confidence propels your professional growth while also fostering lasting networks and empowers others to follow your trailblazing path, ensuring you stand out effortlessly as a true leader in your industry.

Effortless Marketing & Influence:

Empowers you to craft a magnetic brand that speaks volumes without saying a word. Your authentic message naturally resonates with the right audience, drawing them into a captivating narrative that transforms casual interest into lasting engagement. As you master the art of persuasion, your influence expands effortlessly — turning every connection into an opportunity for growth and every interaction into a step toward achieving your professional and personal aspirations.

Mastering Social Dynamics:

Helps you master the art of truly understanding those around you, reading subtle emotions and sensing unspoken intentions with an intuitive clarity. In every conversation and social setting, you glide gracefully, adapting to the ebb and flow of human interaction while remaining authentically true to yourself. Mastery of this art enables you to build genuine connections, resolve conflicts with empathy, and create an atmosphere of mutual respect, allowing you to move with ease and influence.

The Art of Flirtation:

Helps you engage in the delicate tango of playful confidence and subtle seduction, where your speech, gaze, and gestures creates that turns ordinary moments into intoxicating exchanges of charm, wit and desire. This artful interplay of subtle signals captivates those around you also creates genuine, magnetic connections, making every interaction feel both exciting and deeply engaging.

End Early Copy — More to Come!

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The product’s art alone makes me want to run it, lol.

I love the elegant, calm & composed bend to it instead of the usual style for subs like it.

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:flushed::flushed::flushed::hot_face::hot_face::hot_face:

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Well, I’ll be damned. This is a gem. :gem:

Had me teary eyed and stuff while reading through it. I feel like this was created perfectly for me.

Can’t wait to see the final copy. I’ll be stacking it with SB of course.

Thank you. 🥹♥️

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Thank you for putting up the copy. I was dying all day today waiting to see what it has. Does not disappoint.

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We’ve been collecting insights from the ladies here on the forum and from support for quite some time now in preparation for this release and others. We really wanted to nail this for all of you. We have a lot of titles for men, many that are unisex, but we wanted this one to serve as an appreciation for women, directed solely at their self-guided personal growth.

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Just wanted to point out another hint for you @RockyHandsome

:snowflake:

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Oh @RockyHandsome you are a true detective go get them!

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He could if he really wanted.

:snowflake:

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Hot Damn… this is like 5 subs in one. Cannot wait to run this. Thank you @SaintSovereign & @Fire

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Description sounds interesting

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since wanted is the equivalent of seductress…I assume the development of wanted is the same direction and probably these two are being developed simultaneously….and …it is likely wanted will come out with seductress around the same time frame ? :upside_down_face:

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