Very nice idea. Might I suggest adding aspects of Revelation of the Mind to it? Specificially the focus on improving the connection between the “conscious” and “sub-conscious” mind so that more “doors” can be identified and worked on. And that Subconscious Flow aspect(which I’m pretty sure is in RoM) which makes you gradually better at any chosen skill.
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I agree with you since you’re taking about a foundational sub for general growth/self-development.
I was talking about a foundational sub for working with the most transformative subliminal experience- recon.
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I think I disagree about Genesis. I still think it’s perfect.
I can’t see anything wrong with the find your purpose scripting. If someone is already living within purpose, I think Genesis will just enhance that and bring further joy and confidence to it.
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I understand where you coming from but its not the product that is the challenge.
Newbies who first enter the world of subliminal technology. They see it as magic and because of this they want results now. Thia translates to them over exposing. When really they should have done micro loops over a longer period.
So if they use an artisan start with 3 mins then move to 6 then maybe 9 mins and so on.
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It’s a common problem with Genesis that it can lead to an identity/ purpose crisis. My fiancee experienced it and there were others mentioning a similar feeling.
Perhaps that’s the reason Juissance would reduce it.
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This is a gross misconception of what actually was reported, nor can anyone say it’s “common.” In people who are already frustrated with certain elements of their lives, those frustrations came to the surface for conscious resolution – the entire point of that scripting. The disconnect already existed within, the title does not “cause” it or “lead” to it, the individual was already experiencing it and was made aware of exactly what was happening.
@friday actually had the best example of it, as he was already experiencing a form of frustration with his chosen career in the medical industry due to corruption and misinformation. What he reported was that the frustration came into his conscious awareness and he chose to stop using Genesis because he was already so far into his education and decided that he could actually still do good within the industry by working to change it from the inside out.
From that perspective, the scripting WORKED. Instead of having to deal with unresolved emotions regarding this, he was able to resolve the issue and then quit the title – one of the things I spoke about when we made Genesis. It wasn’t meant to be used continuously, it was made for shorter runs to bring these issues to the surface.
When I tested Genesis, it helped me clear some issues regarding hobbies of mine. I’ve always wanted to make a video game, or engage in some kind of media where I could flex my narrative muscles. But I always had a problem working on something that didn’t seem “practical” and very helpful to humanity. So the entire time I was working on a hobby, I was constantly thinking about how I should instead work on something SubClub related. Genesis helped me clear that by helping me see the subtle connections between my non-SC creative work and the SC creative work in ways that I can’t openly explain but I understand.
Saying there’s an “identity / purpose” crisis can be a bit misleading as to the nature of what the title is intended to do. It’s intended to help you find your purpose, which most people don’t engage in due to various reasons. Self-confidence, self-worth issues, issues with wanting to feel needed, etc. It brings those to the surface, which may not feel the best, but may be necessary to proceed nonetheless.
Hence, a short run of Genesis could indeed serve as a foundational title if the person is open-minded to what they TRULY want to do as opposed to what they feel like they must.
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And Genesis: Art of Happiness and Joy, as well as Genesis: Mogul doesn’t contain the “find your purpose” scripting – it’s unique to the original Genesis. So, those are good foundational titles as well. What I’m referring to is something different, something TRULY foundational that’s more in line with the Genesis: The Art of Happiness and Joy approach. But, I’m just keeping it close to the chest right now.
If we create that title, I think you’ll find that it contains the essence of what everyone is discussing right now.
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I can completely relate to this after immersing myself in the music of Genesis and WB over the past two weeks. As I navigated my thoughts, questioning what I truly wanted while dismissing what I didn’t (Emp Daddy 
), I discovered a deep appreciation for the bliss and profound inner growth fostered by Lovebomb 
. Reflecting on my experience, I now understand why I felt so drawn to Genesis—it served as a powerful reminder that Lovebomb was not just a transformative journey for me, but for my friends and family as well. In the end, love truly is the answer .
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If? Man…
So with a purpose crisis. It sounds like awareness of something reaching consciousness ahead of the inner confidence to solve it, which could put someone in a sort of limbo state where they aren’t feeling capable to make the changes and they can’t go back to suppression. Is there anything in Genesis that would sort of be a safeguard to this? Where things are only released if an individual feels safe to confront them?
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All this time I thought Genesis: Mogul had that purpose scripting lol.
So stacking Genesis and G:M would add that with a wealth flavour?
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At what point does subliminal audio – which is supposed to be a tool – becomes a crutch?
Eventually, the individual needs to realize that they alone must take hold of their life by “force,” meaning to develop and exert their own will to become their own source of strength. Ultimately, that is the goal of all our products, especially the new tools-based approach. We said with ZPU tech, we were going to do something bold, something we don’t think anyone else has the guts to do, and that’s the develop technology that would eventually get a person OFF a sub without having to explicitly state that in the script (since that would be a bit too commanding for us).
The way this would be done occurs the individual begins to fully individualize their own inner source of power – through their OWN works and efforts – and not attribute the things they did to “the sub” or anything external to them (but that includes both positive and “negative” results).
In our opinion, it’s fine to say “the sub helped me,” but I literally cringe sometimes when I see “the sub brought this result!” No, YOU created that result. It’s no different than if you won the lottery and then used that money to do something incredible. Yes, while the lottery money most certainly helped you realize a dream, you still had to have the dream and the drive to do so. We already know what most lottery winners do with their cash and how many of their lives turn out. To win that money and then turn back and help others with it through something innovative? No, that was the person’s own development that guided that.
As such, trying to create a script that does what you suggest and making it appeal to an audience from around the world, would most likely trigger even more recon. Once you become aware of an issue, it is your responsibility to determine how and when to proceed. There are plenty of existing titles that can help with this, but moving into the domain of determining when it is “safe” to do so is beyond the scope of anything we personally want to create.
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Well…
I scripted it awhile back. We do that a lot, more than people realize. Script something and then wait to see if it ever becomes useful to people. I’m reluctant to add more SKUs – focused more on upgrading what’s already been created. Just seems more fair to the customers to continue upgrading what they’ve already invested in versus putting out new things to buy. But if there’s enough demand for an interesting “foundational” title…
Then again, I guess it could replace Ascension Chamber…
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Saint do you know yet when you’ll announce the subs for round 4?
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Soon.
Then a short break, and then the bombastic Season 4. It’s going to be quite the ride. Not ready to announce, yet.
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It may balance out some mindsets and make the titles work faster, but the important thing to remember is when Hero is coming out, that script is complete…
Which titles -the new anti-recon ones or generally newer titles?
The generally newer, pretty much anything with NSE, exceptions being some of the larger archetype subs I’ll do lower loops of. Full loop of emperor would probably still wreck me lol
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I vote yes, that is a great idea.
I am having the feeling I want to fall back onto something more foundational for a while, let my brain relax, and build silently.
However nothing in the store at the moment has that appeal to it.
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What people think is foundational : Genesis : Mogul, Ascension, Genesis, Wanted…
What is actually a solid foundation : Self awareness, good subconscious communication, visualisation skills, self confidence, etc.
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