PLEASE READ: Fire vs. Saint Round 3 [The Battle is ON]

[Prioritas]

@SaintSovereign

I scripted it awhile back. We do that a lot, more than people realize. Script something and then wait to see if it ever becomes useful to people. I’m reluctant to add more SKUs – focused more on upgrading what’s already been created. Just seems more fair to the customers to continue upgrading what they’ve already invested in versus putting out new things to buy. But if there’s enough demand for an interesting “foundational” title…

Then again, I guess it could replace Ascension Chamber…

I vote yes, that is a great idea.

I am having the feeling I want to fall back onto something more foundational for a while, let my brain relax, and build silently.

However nothing in the store at the moment has that appeal to it.

[GoldenTiger]

What people think is foundational : Genesis : Mogul, Ascension, Genesis, Wanted…

What is actually a solid foundation : Self awareness, good subconscious communication, visualisation skills, self confidence, etc.

[Sub.Zero]

@SaintSovereign

At what point does subliminal audio – which is supposed to be a tool – becomes a crutch?

When we can’t deal with lingering recon. Unresolved and lingering recon debilitates ours self-introspection, and our ability to reason and take action.

@SaintSovereign

As such, trying to create a script that does what you suggest and making it appeal to an audience from around the world, would most likely trigger even more recon. Once you become aware of an issue, it is your responsibility to determine how and when to proceed. There are plenty of existing titles that can help with this, but moving into the domain of determining when it is “safe” to do so is beyond the scope of anything we personally want to create.

I just want to point out the thing that I think caused the misunderstanding.

@Fractal_Explorer

Where things are only released if an individual feels safe to confront them?

@SaintSovereign

moving into the domain of determining when it is “safe” to do so is beyond the scope of anything we personally want to create.

When I was going through the most crucial reconciliation with the new recon tech, I felt safe. I had no doubts—I did it intuitively, without overanalyzing. I resolved really deep issues, and it wasn’t even slightly overwhelming at any point. It wasn’t disturbing at all—it was liberating. It was real catharsis.

[Malkuth]

@GoldenTiger

What people think is foundational : Genesis : Mogul, Ascension, Genesis…

What is actually a solid foundation : Self awareness, good subconscious communication, confidence, etc.

[Floridianninja]

So i can say the subs or custom helped bring these ideas out of me? Like all these crazy book ideas i’m getting just streaming out of my mind into chatgpt lol

[SaintSovereign]

@Floridianninja

So i can say the subs or custom helped bring these ideas out of me? Like all these crazy book ideas i’m getting just streaming out of my mind into chatgpt lol

You can 100% say that it brought the ideas out of you. Whatever sub you’re running only had scripting to help you generate them. Pat yourself on the back for creating them.

[RockyHandsome]

@SaintSovereign

First things first. Get ready for the finale of Fire vs. Saint. And then Season 4 is going to be… quite interesting.

Any mention of Stark would be music to my ears

[Sub.Zero]

100%

[Judoka]

Me too,but im ready to wait as im sure they’ll use everything they learned so far to turn it into the ultimate ubermensch quality of life subliminal

[Martin]

Stark, Wanted, GLM, Ascension
Sex Mastery…
Emperor v5

[Judoka]

Plus True sell,beyond limitless,GLM,Hero:Origins and new Hero,also why would emperor get another update? It already has nse

[GoldenTiger]

It could definitly be GLM and Beyond Limitless.

[Martin]

Somewhere @SaintSovereign said @Fire was testing a new Sex Mastery…
But I cant help but imagine what would be the new foundational subs like GLM and Ascension

[xanderson83]

Looking forward to your new wacky amazing creations , keep up the unbeatable work you guys do !

[Sub.Zero]

@Saiyan4Blue

It’s about progressing in the art of letting go and delicate interaction with those layers from a place of patience and desire to understand. Instead of believing they are to be peeled off and discarded at once in order to reach the next stage.

On the newest recon tech, I’ve noticed something you mentioned before, which you called recurring reconciliation. Some “obstructive” structures are brought to awareness more than once to be reconciled. However, I’ve observed that each time they resurface, they tend to be easier to process. Eventually, they become semi-conscious and no longer demand much effort—they get reconciled naturally in the “flow of life.” At some point, they fade from view entirely, and the scripting can then be executed at a higher level, which means that those very structures that once blocked or crippled certain features no longer interfere—those features begin to emerge and are executed more… flawlessly.

[Akephalos]

Did he grow up with a single mother?

[Plutus]

Hi @SaintSovereign and @Fire , so sorry to disturb you but has happened so many times that I had a custom late whenever I order express service. Could you please check the status of it? The order is #2029647

I made a support ticket for it as well if you want it.

[Michel]

No his mother, whilst loud and dominant was the only one being kinda supportive. His father was present in the house but sat in the corner being stressed out, drinking. my own father did this whilst he was alive.

To this day I can’t see the difference between an absent father and a present but uninvolved one. Some say that the masculine energy is the foundation many people lack (boys and girls) which makes living more like surviving.

[GoldenTiger]

The new GLM is already in the works—whether it’ll make it into the next round is another question entirely, haha!

Recently, we’ve had a bunch of exciting releases covering different themes:

• Social: True Social, Inner Circle, etc.
• Productivity: Executive
• Spiritual & Skill-Based: Mind’s Eye (which kinda fits into both spiritual and skills), Singularity, The Art of War, and even The Art of Joy and Happiness.

We also recently saw Revelation of Wealth and the revamped EoG outside of the competition, covering the wealth aspect pretty comprehensively.

Titles we’re unlikely to see in this round:

• Stark and Wanted: They’ve already been confirmed as out of the running.
• HoM (House of Medici): It’s such a significant title that it’ll probably need detailed creative planning and discussions between SaintSovereign and Fire before it returns.
• Ascension: Similar situation to HoM—needs some creative direction but a bit more likely than HoM to appear in the Fire V Saint event.
• Hero: Origins and Hero: Hero: Origins is still fairly recent, and since Fire V Saint generally focuses on updating older titles, they’ll probably tackle this one after the competition.
• True Sell: Feels a bit too recent to get an update just yet, even though it’s definitely still relevant.

Titles that might make an appearance (my prediction - I might have overlooked some titles) :

• Beyond Limitless: Announced a while ago, though we don’t have updates on its progress, it’s still possible!
• GLM: This original masculinity growth title hasn’t been touched in ages, making it a strong candidate for the Fire V Saint battle.
• Sex Mastery: A very likely contender—definitely a title that could benefit from some polishing.
• Diamond: Similar to Sex Mastery, although Sex Mastery seems slightly more likely to be updated.

Honorable mentions (less likely for now):

• Chosen Product Line: It’s been quite some time since these titles received updates, but I don’t see them being prioritized this round.
• Ultimate Artist: Possibly, but it feels more like something they’d develop alongside other projects rather than in direct competition.
• Emperor Fitness and Beast Line: These seem like pretty big releases that might be better suited as standalone projects rather than part of this event.
• Rich and Rich Trader: Since we just had new wealth-focused subliminals, these probably won’t be the immediate focus.

[xanderson83]

Definitely think SM needs updating as it’s been a few years lol , but still these guys have an insane workload and these things take time even years so it’s all good in the end …the interesting part is how much further could they push Sex mastery: maybe one loop only needed per month ? Maybe stamina of 12 hours ? Maybe being able to give any woman the mythical hour long orgsm?

Gonna be interesting to see what they create