Physical shifting and Wanted for older guys

Any good results of physical shifting from older guys? From Wanted or other subs. From @lovage , @RockyHandsome and my experience it is so so. I took weight in (belly fat) with Wanted while working out 4 times a week. Maybe other subs work better for older guys ?

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Didn’t see any physical changes on the current zp release.

Emperor Fitness might be worth looking at.

@lovage you used EF right ?

I got some good physical results from Wanted Qv2?

Did you follow a calorie deficit diet?

I did not use EF.

For me, what worked was discipline from either Emp or Spartan: dieting and exercise and you can see results in 2 weeks.

I did not see any physical shifting other than bulking up, appearing bigger with Emperor.

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