Philosophical Question: Do subs lead us to other subs?

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#1

This is more a discussion for fun. But I’ve been thinking about the idea that subs we use leading us to use other subs. For example, I’ve been running WANTED since its release, which as most of you know has physical shifting technology to help you look as attractive as possible. Recently I’ve been guided by my subconscious to pick up Spartan and start using that.

I noticed that while I was seeing improvements physically, I was not as consistent with my workouts as I could have been. And this led me to the realization that if I’m to be my most attractive self I need to be consistent with my diet and workout plan. Spartan helps with those things. Why not use Spartan?

I hope you guys see where I’m going with this. Do you think WANTED could have triggered my subconscious to seek out a supplementary sub for it’s goals?

I know it’s all conjecture but just curious what everyone thinks about this concept

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#2

A SUBBlementary sub :joy::joy:

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#3

:laughing:

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#4

I actually believe they do, if you remember, I was also running WANTED for a bit over 2 months, and I never felt like making a custom but it guided me, SG also recently guided me to getting inner circle, which actually was a good move cause I never realized how much I crave a nice social circle, and now manifestations already started and im meeting an old friend tomorrow who I havent seen in 2 years

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#5

I think I see what you’re saying here though. I ran Wanted+Emperor for a month and at the end of it, because Wanted made me more inclined to be out at bars and other places where I could interact with women, I became acutely aware of how dissatisfied I was with my wealth situation.

So I pivoted the next month to Emperor+EoG+R.I.C.H. and have gotten serious about digging up and solving my limitations in that area.

It makes sense to me that subs would dig up and uncover other areas that could use attention 100%

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#6

the reason i think this happens is due to 2 reasons.

  • 1- because one sub cannot work on every single aspect of your life or it would be too slow and dense, which leads to:

  • 2- there being more subs about many different aspects which makes us realize (consciously and/or subconsciously) that we will always have something to improve upon.

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#7

There will be something to it. :thinking:

#8

And therein lies the rub…imo it’s that very truth that recon plays with which can make us feel like hopping from sub to sub. Or make us feel like we need MOAR in our stack.

Interesting topic. The slope is a slippery one, for sure.

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#9

It seems that it depends more on the user’s personality than anything else. Some people decide that they will run a stack for a length of time, and they don’t let anything get in the way of that.

I’ve been running Seductress, I think since March, and I decided today to get Emperor Fitness.

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#10

yeah man I get you with this, like the other day SG guided me (with self reflection) that I should buy ICQ and stack it, so I was like okay and got it, the very next day, recon sneaks up and whispers “buy the legacy ultima too”, thankfully I realized what was happening, but yeah, it really is slippery

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#11

@Ice

I have this all the time.
I make beautiful progress and then it’s very clear what’s missing in my life.

And then I prepare a custom for that.

Right now I am in a phase where I want to develop my Sexuality/Relationships and I see that I will have Success, specially with my 4 customs I createt for that purpose.

Instantly my mind goes :" pop" create a wealth custom now so that you don’t lack this side as well, because it’s important for your future.

Happens to me all the time

Also Saint and Fire said all of the Programms are synergistic

So it makes sense that your subconscious already know what program woud help you even more

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#12

Sure, I think there’s definitely something to that. Context matters though.

For one, people are diving in from different starting blocks, so one person’s foundation may not be as solid as another’s.

Another example could be a person going for the sub they really want at first only to discover along the way what they actually need to work on, their deeper work, lies in another direction. They weren’t as clear in the beginning.

Should they ignore that realization because they previously put an end date on the calendar? Maybe. Probably, if they’re prone to sub hopping.

In the end, I think being decisive about a direction (sub) and behaving consistently towards that goal – at least for a long enough period of time to get solid feedback – leads to greater development and self-awareness than hopping around from thing to thing, or sub to sub.

There’s something to be said about listening to your intuition along this journey though, and adding a sub that supplements and aligns with your chosen direction isn’t necessarily a bad decision – as long as you know it isn’t recon trying to play you :laughing:

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#13

I agree with what’s being said here. I feel like as you grow and develop as a person you uncover other aspects of yourself that need work that could greatly benefit the goals you’ve set for yourself.

Or, over time, the goals and priorities change and therefore the subs you use will change as well.

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#14

Or in another sense you uncover some foundational issues that need addressing. I recently created a Khan/WANTED seduction custom and started Spartan around the same time. What I realized was that in order to maximize the benefits of my seduction custom, I needed a strong disciplined foundation of exercise and a warrior’s mindset. It’s funny how a few months of running Khan and Wanted showed that to me and it became obvious that Spartan was the right move to make.

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#15

I agree with this point completely. It’s important to stick with a direction but if a sub comes to mind that compliments those goals I think that’s a perfectly valid approach.

For example, let’s just say you have a wealth stack of Ascended Mogul and RICH. Let’s say you’re primary source of income is from sales. Adding a sub like Daredevil is perfectly valid in this situation because even though it’s not a wealth sub, it helps to address the behaviors necessary to be successful at sales, which presumably increases your wealth through higher commissions.

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#16

All subs lead to Customs. That’s the business model. :shushing_face:

:joy:

Not saying they’re scripted that way … but when one is getting benefits, and looks at the vast catalog that is the Q store, it’s hard to resist. :wink:

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#17

Ain’t that the truth! I had that realization the other day. When I first came on here I thought some of the guys here were crazy, I kept seeing people buying new customs and switching products continuously. Now I realize, I’m that way as well…

My wife actually asked me about that the other day. She said, “I have never seen you buy so much stuff from one website, are they telling you to buy more subliminals in the subliminal?”

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#18

I think subs lead to Growth-Promoting Activities and Resources in general. Some of those will definitely be subs.

The reverse, by the way, is also equally true. Other growth-promoting activities and resources will lead to subs as well. That’s how I got here. Meditation and magickal practices. I asked for some help, and then BOOM suddenly I learn of Sub Club.

Your mind is going to lead you to resources that help you to achieve what you’re trying to achieve; whatever those resources may turn out to be. Once you’re already here, it makes sense that your mind will use resources that are already right in front of you.

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#19

except for Simon :slight_smile:

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#20

I’ve definitely found that to be the case for me as well. Prior to finding subs, I was doing a lot of LoA stuff, meditation, and trying to reprogram my mind to be oriented towards my goals. After some time doing that, subs came into my awareness and was the obvious next thing to utilize towards achieving those objectives.

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