Personality analyzing for subliminal effectiveness

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#1

Just hanging out in the forums I happened upon a few mentions from @Hermit about Fire and Water type personalities when it comes to sub usage. @Malkuth might be interested as well. It just got me thinking.

Now it’s my belief that you should have the freedom to be whoever you want to be. The problem lies in understanding that yourself. Meaning your true wants vs insecurities or limiting beliefs masquerading as wants. It’s the difference between a core part of who you are as a person being strengthened vs trying to fulfill some archetype. This wouldn’t be such a big deal if we could change overnight and try these things out, but as of right now it seems like you have to dedicate some time and effort into change that might not even be in alignment with who you are.

Having said that. We know there’s a lot of machine learning nowadays, but I’m fuzzy on the details. Is it possible to scrape journals for users and based on certain pattern, choice of language, phrasing, etc. determine a “core” personality type? From that personality type determine which modules or subs are most in alignment. Sort of like on a scale of 1-10. It’s not that they can’t work, but there are certain degrees of how difficult. So people have a better measurement for how much of a challenge a certain sub will be for them and be better informed with how they might react to it. This would be immensely useful when building out a custom because you could tailor a difficulty level based on what you feel you’re able to handle/how you’ve handled past modules or subs

In an ideal world everyone would respond to subs exactly the same way and get what they want. But there are so many factors and variables in reality and narrowing it down to ensure the most success would be a huge step no other subliminal producer has taken. I’m well aware that these subliminals use questions instead of statements, but I find it interesting that despite that there are still different degrees of responsiveness based on personality despite the fact that it is still very open ended.

I’ve witnessed first hand the subs influence in my patterns of writing in my journals. Sometimes close to what I imagine the script is. So if most people are honest in their journals I could see other subconscious things spilling into the journal that could be dissected and analyzed that they may not be consciously aware of.

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#2

My view of subliminals seems to be more fluid than what I see in the views of most people on here that I read.

Not only do I see subliminals as fluid and adaptable, but I definitely much prefer them that way. I see the subliminal process as a dialogue between the potential in my mind and the flexible yet potent messages that have been constructed by Fire and Saint. The subliminal offers a question of possibility to my deep mind, and then my unconscious/subconscious process issues an interpretive response. That interpretive response then is gradually integrated as a part of my lifestyle.

That’s my vision of the subliminals.

If you were to grab 50 artists and tell them to, ‘draw a picture of a cat focused on the hunt’, you would very likely end up with a wide range of different pieces, some would have lions, some house or street cats. Some might be modernistic, some more traditionally representative. Maybe one of them would do conceptual art.

In the same way, I think we can end up with radically different results from different individuals who are running the same subliminal programs, depending on the nature and quality of their particular unconscious processes (including expectations, desires and associations).

In my own definition, personality essentially represents various perceptual biases. These biases are particular skews in how sensations and perceptions are generated and organized. Practically speaking, that manifests in ‘particular ways of viewing and experiencing things’.

As you pointed out, there are levels to personality. Some aspects are more ‘core’ and are less changeable. Others are more ‘surface’ and can change quite easily. And then there are many parts in-between.

If you were to listen to a subliminal that suggests that you can swim underwater like a fish, I think your mind would interpret that to increase your skill, ease, and enjoyment in the water. Maybe to gradually increase your lung capacity and breath retention capacities, and so on. But, it is unlikely that after a certain number of years with subliminal, you will suddenly develop gills and start to breathe underwater like a fish. That particular change is just not accessible for you. (On the other hand, you may invent or buy scuba equipment that allows you to achieve a very similar result.)

Similarly, I think that the deepest parts of your personality are unlikely to change in relation to a subliminal. But that’s not a problem because, like lung-based breathing, those deep levels are neither positive nor negative. They’re neutral features that can be directed in positive or negative ways. So, they don’t need to change, they simply need to be harnessed and directed in optimal ways.

No one would really want that level of personality change, anyway, because such a deep change would change the very nature of one’s desires (including the very desire to change the personality). I know it’s like an Escher painting, but it’s true.

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#3

My response doesn’t really get to your central question, but is more just elaborating the terms of the question.

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#4

100% agreement with this.

And I believe this is why Saint and Fire have been so successful with their products. They ditched “the way things have always been” and ventured into a different methodology.

I think there’s definitely a lot of flexibility with the subs as far as your minds interpretation goes, like you said. I’d just be really curious to know if it could be made even more efficient. For example you mentioning Alchemist, that’s been on my mind a lot lately lol. At the end of the day it’s all about improving your life, whatever avenue that is. As much as I’m running AM and wanting to be more alpha, do I want the traits of that or what I believe those traits will bring? Stuff like that can get confusing. But there’s always the possibility I just overthink it too much.

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#5

The whole fun is in discovering your personality “type”, your strengths, weaknesses, needs and desires and choosing a sub accordingly.

I found that Emperor is the sub that deals with all the weaknesses of my personality type (ENFJ), Stark fosters its strengths and RM fosters the strongest of my strengths and at the same time helps me manage with my greatest weakness simply by including the module Empath.

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#6

To me, what you’re raising are questions of intentionality and self-knowledge.

Ironically, in my view these are precisely some of the capacities that Alchemist helps to develop.

In other words, I believe that one of the capacities strengthened by Alchemist is precisely the ability to choose the optimal subliminals to support your nature.

#7

Pick a subliminal and then self learn and practice new traits learnt from books or podcasts etc.

#8

Your growing strength and confidence are obvious to an outside observer. It seems that AM is working for you indeed.

Case in point: this very discussion topic that you’ve started here. It’s insightful, unique to you, and invites engagement from other people in an unthreatened way. Also to an outside observer, it’s obvious that those qualities are also some of the core strengths of your personality.

A pretty meta example, I know, but I’d say that this very discussion topic is an example of how AM is working well with you to bring out your unique and individual form of Alpha nature.

It’s working for you, bruh. And it’s only going to keep evolving and increasing from here. You’re engaging, trusting your own ideas, and trying new things.

:muscle:t5::pray:t4::pray:t4:

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#9

This is basically our model. We feel that other producers attempt to force their views on you and decided that we’d conduct research into alternative methods of scripting – and the end result is phenomenal.

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#10

Can you elaborate about the deepest parts of our personalities? like what kind of function do they have?

I never thought about it deeply, but i always believed any aspect of your personality can be changed with enough intention.
but maybe some parts are too central and hard to change(like the way you look at the clock, or the way you nod your head when you say yes etc)

#11

The deeper down we go the more we get to biological substrates of personality. For example, one construct called neurological wakefulness. This is a description of the optimal amount of stimulation that’s appropriate for one’s nervous system. It’s one of the underpinnings of introversion and extraversion. Seems to follow a normal distribution (or, bell curve) like many biological characteristics.

That’s just one example. It will change somewhat over a person’s life, but will be relatively stable.

I’m not an expert on this, but the basic principle stands. Think of the kinds of functions located in our medullas oblongata.

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#12

I’m coming from a point of view of someone really struggling and having a hard time in life. Like I so often ran into. It’s not always fun trying to figure that stuff out. It can be a bit of a logistics nightmare if you don’t have the mental resources for it. I guess it really does all depend on where you’re at in life.

#13

I think about this a lot. Like to what extent those physical differences can be modified to further support goals in one’s life. Not a complete alteration like introvert to extrovert, but a fine tuning I guess.

#14

I suppose it would be cool if SC created some diagnostic tool helping you choose “the right sub”. Something like a personality type questionnaire.

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