Peace from heartbreak that came from Primal

I want to share with you a gift of wisdom that came from using the Primal product, but really came from me with that products help.

I learned how to trust my inner voice despite rejection.

You must learn how to face the pain of heartbreak, but one trick I used to survive was to recognize that when others will not communicate with you, when they have abandoned you, the only light you will receive is the gift of responsibility.

To heal yourself of the ignorance other people may put on you in this world, tell yourself “Wow, they really decided to put this responsibility on me, didn’t they?” This will give you a push against that suffocating force, this will allow you to take breathing space they were too ignorant to provide you with. Go go and win some lifelong allies by healing their heartbreak with this wisdom, or discuss with me your wisdom in the comments below.

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Im a bit tired seeing everyone signal that their ex partners were always the ones who were the bad guys. “they expected too much, they couldnt communicate, they had trauma, they didnt respect me, they had issues”

yeah sure but

its also your fault too if it didnt work out. It takes two people to have a relationship. People blame and forget. And yeah you sometimes dont want the relationship to continue but… if you really wanted it to continue, what could you have done? Do you even know what possible things you were doing in ignorance? Shadow work us part of being better too. And everyone has shit side to them in relationships. We just ignore that in ourselves really well. And blaming others for not being good is a lesson wasted when we could have looked in ourselves. See how we fucked them indirectly too. How we could have helped more but didnt. Not for the sake of helping them but for our own sharpening. Everyones ex probably out there blaming the other person just the same. It takes heart to say " I fucked up and I was an ass or a weakling or whatever else ". The world would be much more capable if we could reflect more on within.

not disagreeing just adding this in

i completely disagree because you have to add a whole new addendum to the original idea which is literally just to think positively at all times of your life. if you have to force positive thinking out of your head that isnt shadow work thats just called a mental illness

I hear people react super harshly and just wonder how authentic any idea following a paroxysmal reactionary feeling could possibly be…?

You’re right Im sick in the head don’t listen to me

I only partly see it the way you do. Of course, there are past relationships where both parties contributed to the breakup or to conflicts.

Whether it was due to a lack of communication, a lack of appreciation, and so on. Still, there are ex-partners who genuinely did not mean well.

Regular beatings, rape within marriage or a relationship, threats, etc.

To say in such cases that both are to blame for the terrible course of the relationship seems very inappropriate to me. You never truly know what happened in that relationship.

How often someone (me) was afraid again of being pushed against the wall and threatened.
How often I had to hear: “You talk like a man, so you’ll get punched like a man!”

Just because I set boundaries and communicated that I expected respect, appreciation, and love—because I myself was always the giver of those beautiful things.

Of course, a person’s conditioning always plays a role. For example, someone who was shown that as a man, you discipline a woman through violence, or as a woman was told that a man only has value if he brings home a lot of money, has simply never experienced anything different.

But that doesn’t mean you should continue living out what was modeled to you.

Yes, it takes a massive wake-up process to see and understand that you must treat others with respect and appreciation—and that you should also receive that in return.

And yes, sometimes you yourself are an asshole, a really bad partner, or something else. The dose makes the poison.

No one, absolutely no one, is perfect. Everyone carries both shadow and light within them. I just think that in some people the light is brighter, and in others the shadow is darker—or the other way around.
Whether that’s temporary or permanent.

If appreciation, respect, and love are not present—even after years in a relationship, even though you almost constantly asked to be treated differently—then I believe it’s absolutely fair to say:
“I’ve done everything in my power. This no longer works. I love myself enough to walk away.”

In that case, I don’t see 50/50 responsibility, but rather a lower percentage on one side.
(In cases of violence, I see 100% of the responsibility with the person who committed it.)

And when I say that the other person also had a percentage of responsibility, I don’t mean they didn’t try enough—I mean they tried too much.
Begging to be treated with respect often gives the other party a sense of power. One that some people, unfortunately, exploit very often.

Since I spend a lot of time exploring spirituality, personal development, mindset, and similar areas, it’s my belief that I chose all of this before I incarnated on this Earth.

That may sound like total crap to some. I mean, who would choose to be abused, beaten, or threatened by people?
(For the record, I’ve personally experienced all of that.)

It’s about the experiences and insights my soul wants to gain. Both the positive and the negative.
But I won’t go deeper into that now.
As I said, it’s what feels true for me. For others, it might sound like total nonsense.

What I really wanted to say with this post is that you never know what happens behind closed doors—and that’s why we should be gentle and mindful in how we approach topics like this.

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I see your points. I think I’ve made a good point too. The devil is in the details ofcourse. Depends on context and specific case. I still believe there is always something you can learn about your weak links in every relationship and every relationship that ends, ends because both of the participants made decisions that led there - one decisions is for example literally saying “that’s it I’m breaking up”. And by finding weak links I mean either the parts where you were the “asshole” and also the parts where you were maybe “too soft” or whatever else that allowed you to continue making the situations worse no matter what the other person was doing in that moment. We choose to be where we are in relationships 50% of it. Because we are 50% of the relationship. I’m not saying one is wrong and one is right. Everyone is fucked up. Some people more than others. But we can learn to navigate better in life if we are able to look back and instead of only pointing fingers also see what we could have done better. And there is always something we could have done better. It’s not to be upset or regret it. It’s to be honest with oneself. See your weak links. Or stay ignorant to yourself whatever anyone wants to do I don’t really care. My point was retrospective and honesty in regards to ourselves and our own faults is good for growth

Now if someone just wants to just feel good sure go ahead.

I see interacting with more abusive people as huge goldmine. It’s like playing the game on hard mode. You can learn how to manipulate and get what you want out of anyone if you can do it on them. And by manipulating I don’t mean anything evil. Sometimes that means only to help them heal a bit by indirect wording in the long run. That’s a huge skill. And people who lack subtle language and skill of timing often don’t get as much. They run into a wall with their head in and get mad and call the other people “too something something”. I like to work my way around more challenging individuals. Even if it comes at a cost sometimes. Either for the sake of learning something new in terms of social interactions or something else they have or can offer.

Not really disagreeing with anything here. Just pointing out that difficult people can be a great training ground and more importantly a great mirror into our own ugly side. And that can be immensely valuable. Yes it can be dangerous and hurt but to some it might appeal to nonetheless for the sake of the prize which is knowledge and skills.

I also don’t think I have to be careful at all when speaking on this. I was right in every single thing I’ve said in my posts. I’m not here to baby someone on the internet because they misunderstood what I said or because direct (not “mean” just direct) language gets them defensive and sad. Thats their problem not mine.

These two statements contradict each other, and that could be what the op pointed out about authenticity.

Relationship is every relationship, even this one online talking to strangers, I agree with you that you have to be two to tango, so responsibility is always shared.

by this I meant that neither of two people in any relationship are “wrong” or “right” 100% of the time.

there was no contradiction just misunderstanding

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Relationships and heartbreak are all experienced differently through the realm of the belief filter.

I personally think everyone has their own realizations that help them move past. It’s ultimately loss and pretty closely tied to the stages of grief. Person to person grieving looks very different.

I think everyone needs something different sometimes. If trashing an ex is the anger they have to feel to come out the other side with more awareness of how they could have enforced boundaries better that’s a good outcome. If being deeply saddened even though the person was abusive that’s valid too because that could open up awareness of why the relationship continued despite mistreatment. I think the most damaging thing is trying to artificially correct or steer those feelings in an attempt to avoid them.

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absolutely

I was the asshole for leaving my relationship, I was a coward for leaving, I was the heartbreaker, I was the abusive one who took advantage of her. I caused her pain for separating.

I was the one being idealised, I was the one who’s opinion didn’t matter. I was the one who sold himself out. I was the one who showed her not all men were abusive. She showed me love for who I am and pain for not understanding who I am.

I’ll probably reject any further romantic relationships. She’ll probably do the same. We’ll both hate the opposite sex for a while.

Both sets of statements are correct. Both sets of statements will inform how we both move on in life, in pain, anger, frustration and growth.