Overcome Lust Title/Module

Hey,

Currently trying to transmute sexual energy but struggling with lust. My thoughts are very sexual in nature despite my best efforts through years of thinking in that way / “karma”.

Because of this, although I’m finding it easy to stick to not watching porn or masturbating, during every day interactions with women I’m unable to stop sexualising them. Sexual thoughts > sexual energy build up > blue balls / stuck energy that is uncomfortable without release (and I don’t want to ejaculate).

Are there any titles / modules that would help with stopping sexualising / objectifying people?

I know there’s a stop porn & masturbation module but that’s not really what I need. I was thinking Khan Black S1 & S2 but then I’m not sure what the “sexual healing” involves. I’m trying to not have any sexual thoughts at all (not saying sexual thoughts are intrinsically good or bad, it’s just what I need for my current purposes).

I’m currently running a custom with Love Bomb + Love Bomb for Humanity. Might create a new custom with additional modules or add title into my rotation depending on feedback. Thank you!

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For transmutation try Khan Black. That’s what it is for.

Regarding sexual thoughts IME KB 3 can increase sexual thoughts and energy 1 and 2 do not.

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Thank you!

Perhaps I’ll add KB S1 into the rotation then. My concern is if KB S1 or S2 also encourage sexual thoughts to induce the sexual energy or for healing… but perhaps that’s only the case with Stage 3?

My goal is to avoid all sexual thoughts entirely so that the energy can instead move “up the chakras” without interaction with the lower chakras (stimulating the sex centres/genitals). My understanding is that sexual thoughts will stimulate them that and create an abundance of sexual energy. This can still be useful to fuel activities but from what I understand isn’t the same as what you can do with your energy if it is not turned sexual at all from a spiritual perspective.

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Than maybe aim for Khan Black - Stage 4.

It works exceptionally well when it comes to actually controlling the energy and use it in different, sublime ways.

(Used KB4 continously for a while now, and the degree of control is fascinating, especially how easy it has become to switch the directions of the energy.)

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I can tell you, from my experience, that after three cycles of KB1 sexual temptations ir thoughts almost vanished. 99.9% of my sexual thoughts occure when I’m with my fiancee.
Very rarely when I see an attractive women. And even then, I don’t have sexual thoughts about her, but about my fiancee, about the intimacy of the contact rather than the act itself.

And for energy, as far as I understand KB, it will help use “sexual” aka creative energy for whatever purpose you want to. Be it business, meditation, sport, whatever.

I’d recommend reading through the KB thread.

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I’ve personally just started to intuitively feel the sexual energy and not just “I’m horny”, and kinda enjoys it floating around. I’m on my 4th cycle of KB st1.

So definitely recommend KB and engage with some basic energy flow practice, like Zhang Zhuang or QiGong.

Doesn’t have to be anything serious, just throughout the day notice how you feel, go inside. I think this has helped me alot too because so often I live in my head and have lost touch with my body and the different sensations.

Just basic movement, move your body and be aware of sensations.

Titles, KB, but perhaps also healing titles can be of use.

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It’s important to not suppress your sexuality, it is a natural part of who we are. If you do so, you’re just creating further problems for yourself.

Allowing stuck energy for the purposes of “storing” is also not good.

Next, energy needs to move. A spiritual practice is needed. And of course, if you want to pursue this idea, find a qualified teacher - contrary to popular modern belief, this isn’t a game where you just go “no-fap”, “store” energy and get superpowers.

It requires a long time of laying down solid foundations and purifying the system.

Thankfully through Khan Black you can start working on your inner sensitivity and the more subtle mechanisms, but forcing yourself to no sexual thoughts, no urges, no ejaculation etc. is the wrong path. Especially by yourself, at the very start, with no guidance or spiritual practice.

So in summary, allow yourself a more natural expression of sexuality, pick up a practice to work with the energy and purify the system, find a teacher. NoFap and similar modern ideas don’t count as anything - disregard those.

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maybe its asked before but can KB do this alone without spirtiual practise? is spirutal practice needed if you use KB

Can you eat vanilla ice-cream without chocolate chips in it?

Can you go boxing without ever sparring or wearing gloves?

Can you marry without love?

Can you dance waltz without ever getting into a proper rib-to-rib stance?

Can you get results without taking action?

Yes, but why would you?

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Thanks for the feedback everyone! I’m gonna add Khan Black Stage 1 into the rotation and see how it goes.

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Based analogy there, rofl.

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Also consider this, it has worked for many people trying to quit PMO:

Always keep in mind that the more practical religions did not ask you to deny/suppress your sexuality(in this regard, I consider the abrahamic religions to be quite useless since they have no proper explanation for celibacy and why/how it is done without harming yourself or developing aberrant tendencies like pedophilia), but they did recommend channeling it for a higher purpose under the guidance of a competent teacher(who were as difficult to find back then as they are now).
Pre-modern people were not bombarded with porn everywhere they went and they had a different context. There are ways to store sexual energy and refine it but it absolutely does not happen through nofap or any attempt to suppress your sexuality. Nofap will give you a temporary “boost” because most people in their target audience are so drained that they are well below the “baseline” of a healthy male. But it quickly “flattens” and people get blue balls and if they haphazardly engage in various pranayamas and visualisations borrowed from various traditions, they almost inevitably develop different forms of sickness which range from minor things such as nausea to full blown psychosis. I’m speaking from practical experience here- I had to vomit many times as a result of poorly learned energy practices back when I started out and I’ve met people that became psychotic because of a combination of drugs and similarly ill-applied practices- it is not a pleasant sight to see and believe me, conventional doctors have no means of curing your problems- once you have it you are pretty much on your own, so don’t do this to yourself. This is one of the reasons why these traditions warn you not to practice these things unless it is truly your call in life and you have the fortune of meeting the right teacher at the right time.

The general rule is that in 99 out of 100 cases, you are probably better off trying to live a good, normal life in society and not touch esoteric practices unless you really know what you’re doing. There are also many teachers out there(just like in ancient times) that are outright frauds or basically criminal- because they also only have a vague idea of the subtler aspects of human life and thus only teach some method they learned somewhere and when you inevitably develop a complex problem they are at a loss(but they’ll be about receiving your donations/fees), and will blame you for their own incompetence.

Since you’ve referred to karma, let me put it like this: It is no coincidence that you have these sexual fantasies and drive- they’re a type of focused thought that started somewhere in you and that have since then become so charged through repetition that they dominate your consciousness. This gives them so much power that they are stronger than your new intellectual thoughts- they essentially have a life seemingly independent of you. This is why nofap can’t work for many people- some weak decision you made somewhere remains on a basically intellectual level and is contending with a powerful intent that formed in you a long time ago, perhaps predating your current life.
So you most likely have to fulfill that intent(in that sense, it conforms to the older definition of karma as as the logical result of a thought action once taken and commited to) or form a different intent that you’ll be so focused on that it’ll eventually overpower the older intent. The second scenario is rather unlikely.
That’s why I suggest sticking to Khan Black for quite some time. Practice some basic practices that you can’t really mess up, like trying to be as mentally silent as possible, or at least making space for a practice like that everyday until it becomes an ingrained habit. And most likely you’ll have to fulfull that old intent of yours through finding a healthy outlet for your sexuality- which means finding a good partner that understands your needs and enjoys being with you. This could profoundly heal your sexuality, and obviously Khan Black and alpha subs like Emperor/Khan and the seduction related subs will help with that a lot. There are some people that have an incredible sex drive up until a certain age- at which point they find it effortless to finally do the things they once took an interest in like sexual transmutation or practicing an artistic skill(which can also be fed by sexual energy). With these people something had to be fulfilled first before they could “move on”.

But one thing that has become clear to me after all these years of struggle with porn-induced thoughts is that certain lessons cannot be skipped. You have to address them in a healthy fashion- I now treat my sexual thoughts as a strong indicator/marker that hints at what I need to commit to in order to feel fulfilled so that I can eventually move on to do other things, which is why I stick to the Khans.

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I’ve just wanted to know if it’s quite powerful(effective) as alone