Ouroboros’ subliminal philosophy

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#1

So, @Prioritas asked me to wax and wane a bit on how I get such effective subliminal results.

So why not… let’s do it.

I’ll keep it short and to the point, to the best of my ability, but it’ll end up long.

Let’s begin. This will be in many parts, so, expect a post here and there, as I slowly work on the overall idea.

Rule #1 is simple. Read the book “Think And Grow Rich” by napoleon hill.

You dont have to read the whole thing, I think that within the first 7-8 chapters the entire idea is explained, and the rest of the book is nonsense.

But there’s one idea that is essential to subliminal usage specifically. It has many names. “The Law Of Attraction” is how it’s known spiritually, but that is associated with a lot of woo woo nonsense. It’s associated with the idea that “thoughts become things” which is as technically true as it is completely useless.

A better way to think about Think And Grow Rich is to understand that a man (or woman) should have a Chief Definite Aim that everything in their life submits to and is in service to.

A chief definite aim is one goal, one pursuit, one obsession, in one field.

@RVconsultant made a post on how to get effective results with subliminals and certainly came close to the truth, but, his approach to “set a realistic goal that is time bound” failed because goals are not supposed to be overly realistic, and they’re not supposed to be time bound, according to Chief Definite Aim theory.

In Chief Definite Aim theory, your goal is always LIFECHANGING, and you are committed to the pursuit of the goal for as long as it takes until you solve it. This is how 3 year goals can be completed in 3 months, and this is how people persist even when they 3 month goal actually takes 3 years.

Who cares how long it takes to accomplish your purpose so long as you accomplish it?

In the words of tony robbins you have to be “committed to the goal but flexible to the approach.”

Meaning you have to have a chief definite aim, and you have to persist and change plans as many times as it takes, for as long as it takes, until you’ve accomplished it.

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#2

That’s part 1 for now. Will continue in a bit.

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#3

This is gonna be a great thread, I can feel it in my loins

Already started off hot, crazy enough I have read that book and my takeaway from it was less concrete than what you’ve laid out, so I’m hyped

Gonna be chewing on this CDA idea, as for as long as I can remember I have wanted God to deliver to me a mission/purpose-led life, as if I were some divine savior with a task only I could accomplish.

I’m starting to realize I am infinitely closer to a common man than the demigod I wished I was when I was a teen, and I’m starting to realize that’s okay, and it’s actually better than what a lot of people have going for them, so maybe my current purpose is to figure out a bigger purpose…

Lots to think about :pray:

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#4

Throughout my subliminal journey, I’ve always had a CDA that is

  • easily measured
  • within my control
  • tangibly meaningful to my life
  • a flywheel… (success brings success)
  • leverage (success means BIG success)

After 9 months of online gaming addiction, depression, meaninglessness, constant misery and anxiety, wading through life without grit or purpose, my girlfriend had a serious talk with me.

“You don’t have any drive,” she said… “I can’t be in a relationship with a man that doesn’t take his life seriously, including finances.”

Honestly it was the kick in the pants I needed.

I had tried and failed for years to get my shit together, but because I tried to “make money” for myself and my own selfish ambition, I didn’t try extremely hard, and I always fell short of accomplishing anything meaningful.

My girlfriend caring changed my mindset dramatically. For the better.

Chief definite aim #1 on my subliminal journey was build an agency to 100K/mo so that I could have a financially successful life for me and my girlfriend. She was the inspiration, but, I was doing it for both of us.

Simpler than that, chief definite aim #1 was money. It was meaningful, easy to measure, within my control to obtain, worthwhile, and most of all, success brought more success thinking & acting, so results skyrocketed quickly.

Money is really a great purpose under a certain income level, and a terrible purpose over a certain income level. Unless you have a solid job or solid income generating skills, stability in life and living and the ability to save a bit every month, everything else is a secondary goal - secondary goals are important too! They’re just secondary.

Having even a moderate + stable income is LIFE CHANGING compared to financial insecurity. It allows you to fully express yourself. I don’t even mean wealth. I even mean a comfortable 50K/y that you don’t stress about. That’s a good start.

I only scaled the agency to 50k/mo, not 100k/mo, but it does not matter, achieving the goal does not matter, it’s getting as close to the goal as humanly possible and as fast as possible that matters. Set a goal, go in that direction, course correct along the way.

I’m seeing even more success with sales as my chief definite aim compared to the agency, because sales follows subliminal success principles more closely (for me)

  • easy to measure
  • in my control to achieve
  • meaningful
  • a flywheel
  • leverage (success means BIG success)

Measurement:

  • in my agency, three metrics: sales, profit margin, retention
  • in sales role, only sales

In my control to achieve:

  • in my agency, I have control over sales, but less control over margins & retention (biz partner’s department not mine)
  • in sales, i have more control over measurable metrics of success than I do in the agency

Meaningful:

  • both provide money, so, agency and sales are equal

Flywheel:

  • in my agency, the more clients I close, the more problems arise, so, it’s not a flywheel as much as sales is… but it is a flywheel considering I have more money to invest into the business as I close more clients, so it sort of is a flywheel.
  • in sales, the more sales calls I close, the better I get at sales, and I never have to stop selling. So… there’s a small flywheel effect, but the opportunity could be more flywheel-like.

Leverage:

  • both have insane leverage as I’m selling high ticket
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#5

I think seduction, socializing, and healing are all terrible Chief Definite Aims because they lack the factors of success.

  • Meaningful improvements to life
  • easy to measure and define
  • flywheel
  • leverage
  • in my control to achieve

And if our goals, with or without subliminals, lack these things, we’ll go nuts!

Who wants a goal they have no control over? Or a goal that isn’t meaningful to their life? Or a goal that doesn’t actually move the needle much? Or a vague goal you never know if you hit?

Being a pick up artist is easy to measure, and within control to achieve, so you see A LOT OF GUYS on the forum bragging about seduction.

Anything that is measurable and within your control is accomplishable with subliminals.

The problem is, WHO CARES?!?!?

It doesn’t make life significantly better in a meaningful way. After the girl leaves, there isn’t any impact or change. You realize it was just a high, and you go chase it again.

Compare that to learning an income generating skill and having it for life.

Seduction has a flywheel, measurability, and control, but no meaning or leverage. So it’ll get crazy forum results, but those people, unless they have more in life than JUST seduction, will remain fundamentally unhappy.

Meanwhile, healing is a bad chief definite aim because of one simple question… healing to what end? Healing is best done by healing what’s stopping you from accomplishing your goals. Without goals, how do you know if you’re healed? Even worse, the less goals you have, the more healing you need, because living life without a chief definite aim is extremely anxiety provoking… living in financial lackingness is ALSO extremely anxiety provoking and would likely be best fixed by making an income, not by healing directly.

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#6

Note: I’m not saying healing, seduction, or socializing are bad.

They are just not the topic of this thread.

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#7

Socializing is also something that falls under a similar thread. Not really in your control, or super meaningful to your life, too temporary, but definitely helpful.

All these goals are helpful secondaries.

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#8

With that being said, some men have the other areas of their life solved. Going from 70k/yr to 120k/yr won’t change their life as much as a chief definite aim of meeting women/friends/healing… in which case that can be a great aim if it’s genuinely the #1 thing you need to do in life to completely and totally change your life

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#9

And that’s one of the major skills of subliminal usage. CONSTANT self assessment.

Assessment of your strengths and weaknesses. Assessment of threats and opportunities. Assessment of what you need to work on, and to pick that subliminal. Assessment of how your progress is going. Assessment of the smallest possible change needed to accomplish your goals. And of course assessment of what goals actually matter to begin with.

This is a skill I picked up by going to the vipassana 10 day silent retreat courses 10 separate times, going DEEP into myself and coming out a changed person, with more awareness.

In subliminals, one way that plays out is I can sort of hear the script in my head. I have a pretty good idea of what some of the subs say or at least what they make me think, because I can hear my subconscious more clearly than most people, I naturally have a very good connection with it. So I’m able to assess exactly how the sub is affecting me in real time.

Assessing your goals also forces you to pick a narrow subliminal, not an archetype.

I was always getting average results with subliminals while I was running ascended mogul and emperor, which FEEL AMAZING but are too socially focused and therefore lack specificity into the #1 thing that will change my life most.

The subs that have made me the most money over the last 2 years have got to be ecstasy of gold, commander, limitless executive, and love Bomb. They filled all my weaknesses and leveraged all of my strengths. That comes from assessment and experimentation

So I guess one reason why I’ve been successful is because I realize archetype subs (STARK, KHAN, EMP, AM) aren’t actually good “default” subs but should be used much more rarely.

chosen and HOM kinda fall under the same category, but with that being said, chosen is useful for extreme positivity and HOM for financial manifestations, so, I’m not including them as pure “archetype subs”

I also ran solo AM for almost a year, and so maybe that foundation was extremely important. I do advocate for starting out with ascension and simple subs like chosen, LBFH, EOG1, as first subs.

That’s another thing… I’m extremely steady with sub selection. I pick the simplest sub, with the fewest sets of goals, and I listen to it for the longest time. I experiment along the way but my journey has mainly been 9 months of AM, 5 months of mogul, 9 months of EOG1+LE+Comm, and now listening to HOM + SE, we’ll see for how long.

That consistency lets simple results hit DEEP.

Vipassana and awareness is how results can start to hit FAST

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#10

I think seduction/socializing as a CDA depends on your goals and how you measure them

Your goal can be to get laid as much as possible and you measure that by your notch count on your bed

Or your goal can to become more charming and charismatic in general, and you measure that by how many meaningful conversations you can have in a week of going out/meeting new people/talking to friends and family.

100% see your overarching point tho, just wanted to give another perspective on that one piece

#11

what the fuck lmao that’s insane

How have the mens retreats you’ve gone to affected your ability in subliminal processing? if at all

#12

KEY POINTS DESERVING OF A HIGHLIGHT FOR ALL THOSE READING THE THREAD
READ THIS AGAIN

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