Opinions needed for Project Invictus

Questions and Comments
#1

So you guys probably read about me thinking about a custom that involves both Stark and PCC as the cores (I’m not going for 3 cores), and as we all know, I’m not as experienced with customs as most of you are, which is why I’m making this thread.

I would like to humbly ask you all to please chime in with your opinions, so that I can perfect this custom, as well as to help out those who are thinking about creating a custom for a similar goal.

This custom’s main goal is to turn me into a social mastermind, someone who people won’t be able to argue with, can’t talk back to, and would want to do anything for.
A person with unlimited power over everyone he encounters.

The custom won’t be ordered until the 28th of April, which gives us all 4 weeks to perfect this, and with that said, here’s the list for the current draft for the custom:

  • Stark core
  • PCC core
  • Mastermind
  • Whispered power
  • APS: Head
  • Entranced
  • Ethereal presence
  • Direct influencing aura
  • carpe diem ascended
  • Lifeblood fable
  • Physical shifter sexiness
  • Natural winner
  • The Way of ROI
  • Dominion
  • The Architect
  • Financial Success Reality Shifter
  • Tyrant
  • Code of loyalty
  • The wonder
  • Song of joy

note: APS:Head and Physical shifter sexiness are important here, as the first one is necessary for my facial aesthetics (I need more than just WANTED to fix my TMJ), while PSS will help me get the halo effect due to my attractiveness (in case all else fails to influence others).

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Main Disc. Thread - Zero Point Custom Build Questions
[ADVANCED] The Superior Invictus
#2

Awesome! In what area of your life are you looking to get the most results?

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#3

Well, the main focus is to become the most influential person possible, while backing it up with my success.

As you know, I often use fictional characters in order to “personify” my stacks, so for this custom, there are 2 fictional characters that embody this custom, both of which are anime characters, which are:

  • Sosuke Aizen from Bleach
  • Lelouch Vi Britannia from Code Geass
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#4

This looks good. Any skills you looking to develop like programming or math or something else?

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#5

Not necessarily, no.
My work is mainly about coordinating events and festivals, which usually means writing proposals, managing people, having meetings with sponsors, and meeting people of high caliber (like meeting Idris Alba yesterday during the fifa World Cup draw event).

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#6

Iron Frame?

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#7

But if you had to choose what exactly you wanted to persuade people to do, what would it be? Can you give us a breakdown of the main areas of life that you want to persuade people in and which are most important? Is it mainly work and these large social groups where you already have some innate authority based on your role but want to amplify it with your personality?

Are you looking to become such a charismatic and persuasive leader that people follow and listen to what you say? That would be leadership to create compliance.

What would the key deliverables of this custom be?

ie:

  • everyone accepts my ideas at work
  • i command the attention of large groups easily
  • i get promotions and impress my supervisors
  • i am friends with everyone i work with effortlessly, both coworkers and attendees of our events.
  • etc etc

Right away I have a feeling that Chosen should replace PCC. what made you not include chosen in the custom?

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#8

I thought about this actually, but then I looked at it and thought about it a lot, and came to the following conclusions:

1- PCC and stark cover it enough.
2- there’s no need for that, since I have a pretty good frame.
3- Entranced is a better option to get people to listen to you, instead of having an “iron frame” during debates/arguments/talks.

Alright then lemme break it down:

1- be the one everyone heads to for everything (both at work and out of work).

2- be able to influence and convince anyone with my ideas, while also not letting others know about the whys and hows of what I do.

3- be able to move up the ladder effortlessly, and even get recommended for promotions with ease.

4- have total control over the “social game”.

5- have a reputation for being that one guy that people just feel compelled to do anything for and follow.

6- as my work is 90% confidential, I need to be able to say less than necessary, or divert the attention of any conversation with ease (to prevent leaks).

while what you’re saying is right, and I even mentioned it myself once, that I could probably create my own cult on Stark + Chosen, I feel like Chosen might make me a bit less likely to use “any means necessary” to get what I want.

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#9

also sidenote:

this could be replaced with Emperor’s voice (for added authority)

this could be replaced with Gloryseeker (not added yet since Stark is a core already)

and this could change to something else, like Invincible Presence, but I kept it for the charisma boost.

#10

TF man :joy: :joy:

#11

Positively accruing “power” over people generally means convincing them to redirect their energy toward helping you fulfill a potential, possibly mutual goal.

For example, would you say that I have power here at SubResults? Of course. How is it accrued? By creating products that you want to buy and use. We have mutual goals. I help you fuel your self-growth, you help me grow my business / mission.

Negatively accruing “power” means obtaining it through intimidation and fear. All power is fickle, but the negative polarity evokes a very visceral response in people – a counterbalance, so to speak – and eventually, someone will violently try to seize their sense of power back.

The question you have to ask yourself is which pole do you represent? I’d recommend using the Expansion, Restriction, Balance method to create the perfect custom.

Two cores. 5 expansion, 5 restriction, 5 balance. Use the extra space for result boosters, or leave them empty.

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#12

I have no idea what this is referring to. Could you elaborate on what restrictions, expansions, and balances are?

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#13

I’m in the governmental sector, in a country where influence and name matter more than anything, while Chosen is good, sometimes being nice and inspiring isn’t enough in certain societies.

again, you dropped even more nuggets for me hahaha.
but truth to be told, your first point about positive power is what I want, which is why I removed modules that would be considered “edgy” (fenrir, fearsome, etc), as I want to be influential and have power while being able to make people feel good about following me.

the mutual goal that I would want for my “followers” would be the value they receive from my influence over them, and I have already seen enough at work and in my regular day-to-day life, that proved to me that people here want to be led by me.

I tried something similar, but instead, I was like “inner power, outer influence, and fun”.

Inner:

  • mastermind
  • carpet Diem ascended
  • natural winner
  • architect
  • way of ROI
  • Tyrant

Outer:

  • Whispered power
  • Entranced
  • Ethereal presence
  • direct influencing aura
  • Lifeblood fable
  • Dominion

Fun:

  • FSRS
  • The wonder
  • code of loyalty
  • song of joy

Physical extras:

  • APS: head
  • Physical Shifting Sexiness

but I see what you mean, I might seem a bit with the way I was saying what I wanna do with this, so I’d ask you, how would you rearrange them (with modifications).

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#14

Restriction would be subs that resonate with your core (Example: I’m an ENTP, so stark gels extremely well with me)

Expansion would reflect on things you want to acquire/learn/expand on (example: me using Mind’s eye)

balance would be for a sub to keep you balanced so you have something in a different area that is important to you, that would be a different focus than the 2 above, in a way (example: me using EF)

@Seeker do you mind linking the post by Saint where he went a bit deeper about the concept, please :slight_smile:?

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#15

Here’s the first one: Main Disc. Thread - Quintessence: Zero Point (Experimental) (Part 2) - #314 by SaintSovereign

Scroll down through those posts. We haven’t made an exact summary yet.

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#16

What do you think would be good for a ESTJ?

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#17

I’m not really the best person to ask, so maybe you should ask @SaintSovereign directly instead, but this could work for you.

Restrictive (to ground you): Stark, Chosen, or DD
Expansive (an area you want to grow in): R.I.C.H, Limitless (or QL), mogul, maybe even HoM.
Balance (to balance your stack): PCC, ME, or even Sage I suppose.

again, it’s better for Saint to chime in, rather than taking my word for it.

#18

FIRE on Daredevil:

“It includes some elements from Ascension, Primal and Sex and Seduction, but it is a completely new program in its own right. It’s all about becoming a social beast and mastermind.”

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#19

I would have thought chosen core would make sense alongside stark… Since its a coordinating leading role.

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#20

Stark should also cover that, plus stark has extra benefits which I love as well.

Well the custom isn’t to support just my job, but to support doing the things I want.

Chosen would help, and honestly I would add it if @SaintSovereign said I’d be fine with those 3 cores (Stark + PCC + Chosen), but at the same time, I think there will be times when I won’t be able to do what needs to be done with Chosen in there.

Like for example, networking is fine, right? But on Chosen, I didn’t even want to use nepotism to get a higher paying job, because it felt like cheating, however, without Chosen, I felt sad that I didn’t use those means just because I wanted to do the “right” thing.

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